5-7 and going Bowling

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bamawriter said:
The article you linked has UT in the 50s.
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yes, but you can rule out teams that already have 6 wins, and teams that are ineligible (like Vandy), which moves us way up the list. I also think we are only competing against FBS schools, but correct me if I am wrong
 
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KBVol said:
Disagree, waste of time for us to go bowling at 5-7. The whole “it’s great for the players to get those extra 15 practices” is a myth imo.

Now that there is an early signing period Dec 20-22, the game has changed...... I think it’s much more important for the new coach (and staff) to spend his/their time making sure that class is as good as it can possibly be by getting Mays, Taylor and Dixon (perhaps others) re-committed and to make sure he gets the players signed that fit his system, rather than playing another meaningless bowl game, especially one that we didn’t even earn. Jmo.
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that's a good point about spending the time at practice instead of recruiting
 
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goldvol said:
yes, but you can rule out teams that already have 6 wins, and teams that are ineligible (like Vandy), which moves us way up the list. I also think we are only competing against FBS schools, but correct me if I am wrong
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If vandy wins they make a bowl. They're only 4-7 right now
 
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goldvol said:
Yes, it sucks to be in this position. There's not a single one of us that thinks bowling at 5-7 is an honor. But, with a new coach coming in, we could sure use the practice and orientation.

and yes, if we beat Vandy, there are bowls that will want our storied program.

Are we going bowling and should we go bowling?
Who's the best potential match up?
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Is our APR high enough for that. Thought I read somewhere it wasnt
 
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goldvol said:
yes, but you can rule out teams that already have 6 wins, and teams that are ineligible (like Vandy), which moves us way up the list. I also think we are only competing against FBS schools, but correct me if I am wrong
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You're in the 50s of FBS.

There will only be 3 or 4 5-7 teams that get invites at most. UT isn't going to be in the top 3 or 4 of the 5-7 teams that are left.
 
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bamawriter said:
You're in the 50s of FBS.

There will only be 3 or 4 5-7 teams that get invites at most. UT isn't going to be in the top 3 or 4 of the 5-7 teams that are left.
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There is one less bowl than last year.
Through yesterday’s games, I think there will be one 5-7 bowl team this year.
 
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goldvol said:
ok, thank you. should be fairly easy to predict at this point where they would be, no?
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Yes, and they would need pretty much a miracle.

There are 78 spots to fill this year (one less bowl game). As of today there are 64 teams with the minimum 6 wins. There are a lot sitting at 5 and some play each other (i.e. Utah vs. Colorado, Indiana vs. Purdue, UCLA vs. Cal). Then you have Duke and Minnesota specifically who have hit 5 wins and are higher on the APR list than us, so they are in if needed.

In 2015 they needed only 3 5-7 teams, and last year only 2. So basically you're not just getting down to hoping teams lose, you're getting down to hoping teams lose and teams ahead of us decline a bid.
 
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goldvol said:
Yes, it sucks to be in this position. There's not a single one of us that thinks bowling at 5-7 is an honor. But, with a new coach coming in, we could sure use the practice and orientation.

and yes, if we beat Vandy, there are bowls that will want our storied program.

Are we going bowling and should we go bowling?
Who's the best potential match up?
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Been practicing all year and its not helped yet. At 5-7 we will be sitting home. But i still cant believe Butch let this team be short on OL and the QBs he has recruited here just not up to SEC standards. But running this stupid read option offense i can see why no 5 star QBs and WRs are not comming here.
 
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Actually here's the breakdown:

2017–18 NCAA football bowl games - Wikipedia

I was wrong, we're at 70 of 78 teams right now. With Utah/Colorado, Indiana/Purdue, and Cal/UCLA, and MTSU/Old Dominion all playing each other, that's 4 more spots. And Minnesota, Duke, Georgia Tech, MTSU, Cal, Indiana, Buffalo all are ahead of us in APR. And not to mention FSU can win their last 2 and still make a bowl.

It ain't happening.
 
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goldvol said:
since i didnt describe the complete process of bowl selection, sure, it's not how it works. if you're saying bowls dont get to pick whatever team they want, then yeah, you're right and i didnt say otherwise. if you're saying bowls dont get to choose out of the 'eligible' teams available, then no you're wrong and it is how it works.
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No...I'm not.
 
#39
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Yeah, we're getting waaaaay ahead of ourselves on this whole beating Vandy thing. Even if we do, decline the participation trophy bowl (if offered) and get to work in weight room for next year.
 
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I hate to see Tennessee not in a bowl game, but at this point, I'd rather see everybody getting healed up, surgeries done and whatever else is needed to be ready to go in the Spring.
 
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Winner of Tennessee Vandy game will have the highest APR of any 5-7 team in SEC and should get an offer.

I agree that the practices are much needed and worth the risk of losing an 8th game but I don't think we will.
 
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goldvol said:
that's a good point about spending the time at practice instead of recruiting
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I think it should be the other way around....new coach needs to focus on recruiting the next group of players that could help him win, especially given the new early signing period on Dec 20-22, rather than spend time practicing for a worthless, meaningless bowl game that we don’t even deserve to play in.
 
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We are already in a bowl this coming weekend. It's called the Toilet Bowl. We have two teams tied for last place in the SEC. That tie will be broken with the losing team winning the Toilet Bowl trophy and the dubious honor of the worst team in the SEC! :eek:lol:

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By no means do we deserve to go to a bowl game, but we should do it anyway if offered. To quote one of my favorite movies, "***** it, Dude. Let's go bowling".
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Winner of Tennessee Vandy game will have the highest APR of any 5-7 team in SEC and should get an offer.

I agree that the practices are much needed and worth the risk of losing an 8th game but I don't think we will.
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Vandy yes; us not so much. Being in the SEC has nothing to do with it.
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Winner of Tennessee Vandy game will have the highest APR of any 5-7 team in SEC and should get an offer.

I agree that the practices are much needed and worth the risk of losing an 8th game but I don't think we will.
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The conference bowl tie-ins don't apply to the 5-7 APR rule.
 
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goldvol said:
yes, it sucks to be in this position. There's not a single one of us that thinks bowling at 5-7 is an honor. But, with a new coach coming in, we could sure use the practice and orientation.

And yes, if we beat vandy, there are bowls that will want our storied program dedicated fan base that travels well and spends money.

Are we going bowling and should we go bowling?
Who's the best potential match up?
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fyp.

Doesn't matter anyway, that's not how the bowl selection process and APR eligibility works.
 
#50
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If Florida wins next week they deserve to go first since they didn't get to play that 12 game... And anyone else who would be in that scenario
 
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