2024 Transfer Portal Thread

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OrangeVolMan said:
Tennessee was selling out its arena before NIL so how does NIL now benefit Tennessee. The answer is it doesn’t. They now have to do it to compete but the NIL process does not benefit Tennessee financially.
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Might as well ask how abolition helped cotton plantation owners
 
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I mean SF touched on it, really it's just an inflation thing...

Knecht was the 20th rated portal player last year according to On3. We got him a bit cheaper than his value because he wanted development and a hard nosed coach and clicked with Barnes. But even then I don't think he would have gotten 1 million...

But if you look at the portal quite a few were either in last season or were considering it, and since values have gone up they are back at it.

A few that were high rated in the 2023 portal that are back in again in 2024

Keyon Menifield from Washington to Arkansas and now looking for a new spot again
Javian McCollum from Siena to Oklahoma and now heading to Georgia Tech
Javon Small from East Carolina to Oklahoma State and now back in the portal again
Tyrese Hunter from Iowa State to Texas and now in the portal again
Tramon Mark from Houston to Arkansas and now heading to Texas
TJ Bamba from Washington State to Villanova and now back in the portal again
Malik Dia from Vandy to Belmont to Ole Miss

Most of these are names of guys that aren't guys that will get drafted in the NBA or have real careers at that level. They are trying to maximize their $$$ why they can and the free transfers are allowing them to do it.
 
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cncchris33 said:
You're comparing apples to oranges in the current environment, though. These kids aren't professional athletes (yet). On the surface, in the landscape of college basketball where Dalton Knecht is worth $500k, Jonas Aidoo isn't worth $1 million. But at the end of the day, you are worth whatever someone is willing to pay you for your services. If Baylor believes JA is worth that money, then that's what he's worth, I guess.
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Hadn’t heard of this story before yesterday. Jimmy Hyams was on Doug Mathews and was discussing the new model of universities heading the NIL instead of collectives. My instinct is to maintain a partnership where Spyre would take the primary lead because they’ve proven the best in the nation. But Jimmy pointed out that Knecht was lined up to speak at the Big Orange Tipoff for $1000…20 minutes work. Spyre quashed it and demanded $3000. Jimmy’s contention is that set off donors the wrong way and I never agree with Hyams…but on this one it makes solid sense. So a potential great PR good vibes moment doesn’t happen for a cash grab. Ugly tail wagging the dog stuff.
 
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butchna said:
Hadn’t heard of this story before yesterday. Jimmy Hyams was on Doug Mathews and was discussing the new model of universities heading the NIL instead of collectives. My instinct is to maintain a partnership where Spyre would take the primary lead because they’ve proven the best in the nation. But Jimmy pointed out that Knecht was lined up to speak at the Big Orange Tipoff for $1000…20 minutes work. Spyre quashed it and demanded $3000. Jimmy’s contention is that set off donors the wrong way and I never agree with Hyams…but on this one it makes solid sense. So a potential great PR good vibes moment doesn’t happen for a cash grab. Ugly tail wagging the dog stuff.
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I can speak to this directly, my friend did an appearance last year and had 3 players show up total 2 are now graduated. It started with one of them making an appearance and it was going to be around 1-2k, he'd be there 2 or so hours and sign autographs, the player asked "What about player A & B?" and of course my friend said sure. Problem was Player B had a different NIL manager and that $2000 appearance ballooned to nearly $8,000 to get all 3...

Spyre isn't the only one involved, some players have their own management/representation.
 
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butchna said:
Forgot the name of the real respected national authority on portals, but on a recent show he recounted Knecht was 43 on his list.
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Well that guy is an idiot then...

247 had DK as the 13th best overall portal player last year.

(I usually look at On3 & 247 because they typically do like an average of multiple sources for their rankings)
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Well that guy is an idiot then...

247 had DK as the 13th best overall portal player last year.

(I usually look at On3 & 247 because they typically do like an average of multiple sources for their rankings)
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I don’t pore over any of the lists. Most of it is parsed, publicly available information. As with the Nerd Collective that hands out stars to high school athletes with varying situations, it’s about interpretation of how their skills translate at a different venue. The guy I cited who rated him lowly iterated that it wasn’t an insult to rate a player who had just shown double figure capability at a sustained basis in his second season at Northern Colorado. 20 ppg when he’d averaged 8.9 the previous season and in his last season of JUCO. It could be maintained that 43 was pretty optimistic. I don’t remember anyone on this board coming close to declaring him the wunderking he became. There were lots of downed heads when the other transfer bailed. Sometimes it works for you. Glad we got to enjoy one.
 
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butchna said:
I don’t pore over any of the lists. Most of it is parsed, publicly available information. As with the Nerd Collective that hands out stars to high school athletes with varying situations, it’s about interpretation of how their skills translate at a different venue. The guy I cited who rated him lowly iterated that it wasn’t an insult to rate a player who had just shown double figure capability at a sustained basis in his second season at Northern Colorado. 20 ppg when he’d averaged 8.9 the previous season and in his last season of JUCO. It could be maintained that 43 was pretty optimistic. I don’t remember anyone on this board coming close to declaring him the wunderking he became. There were lots of downed heads when the other transfer bailed. Sometimes it works for you. Glad we got to enjoy one.
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When the two biggest recruiting/rating sites in town both have a player in their top 25 ranking said player 20+ spots lower at 43rd seems like "I wanna be different" more than anything else.

If anything DK's season showed he was grossly underrated as he was the only transfer to be a Naismith finalist this year...so even 13th was too low in hindsight. We absolutely got to enjoy it! :cool:
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
When the two biggest recruiting/rating sites in town both have a player in their top 25 ranking said player 20+ spots lower at 43rd seems like "I wanna be different" more than anything else.

If anything DK's season showed he was grossly underrated as he was the only transfer to be a Naismith finalist this year...so even 13th was too low in hindsight. We absolutely got to enjoy it! :cool:
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He’s a national guy. Doubt he was pandering to any one market. Obviously Knecht was underrated in retrospect, but he made it so after the fact. It was difficult to project what we saw based on his past performance against lower competition.
 
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RyanWalkerPGH said:
Better hope
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I'd consider him our most important portal target. Not only his scoring, but some have said he's also capable of running the point if needed. I really don't like the thought of Boswell being the only backup. Yeah, Gainey. Yeah, Mashack, but neither of those is ideal or confidence inspiring.
 
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CAVPUT said:
I'd consider him our most important portal target. Not only his scoring, but some have said he's also capable of running the point if needed. I really don't like the thought of Boswell being the only backup. Yeah, Gainey. Yeah, Mashack, but neither of those is ideal or confidence inspiring.
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Agreed, absolutely need him at this point.
 
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butchna said:
I don’t pore over any of the lists. Most of it is parsed, publicly available information. As with the Nerd Collective that hands out stars to high school athletes with varying situations, it’s about interpretation of how their skills translate at a different venue. The guy I cited who rated him lowly iterated that it wasn’t an insult to rate a player who had just shown double figure capability at a sustained basis in his second season at Northern Colorado. 20 ppg when he’d averaged 8.9 the previous season and in his last season of JUCO. It could be maintained that 43 was pretty optimistic. I don’t remember anyone on this board coming close to declaring him the wunderking he became. There were lots of downed heads when the other transfer bailed. Sometimes it works for you. Glad we got to enjoy one.
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The guy was clearly poor at his job. DK averaged 24ppg his last year at JUCO after averaging 13.3 as a freshman. Then back to back years at over 20 at Northern Colorado.
 
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CAVPUT said:
I'd consider him our most important portal target. Not only his scoring, but some have said he's also capable of running the point if needed. I really don't like the thought of Boswell being the only backup. Yeah, Gainey. Yeah, Mashack, but neither of those is ideal or confidence inspiring.
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Boswell will not be ready in ‘04-‘05
 
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