2024 Presidential Race

[BreatheUT]

Using the current RCP averages for swing states - electoral map is: 293 GOP/245 Dem. If you treat WISC and PA as toss ups that goes to: 283 GOP/236 Dem with 29 undecided.

So even if you throw Biden a couple of bones to chew on he still takes the L.

 

[luthervol]

They HATE the other guy and would rather the country fail, right @luthervol ?

Partially.
Yes we do HATE the other guy - absolutely - with a passion!!!

But it's insane to say that we would rather the country fail - that's exactly what we are trying to avoid.
It's just that we recognize that the best protection against the country failing is to insure that Trump does not win.

 

[VolTull]

This post exemplifies why this country is in bad shape.

wow thanks Breathe I'm a major influencer and never knew it.

 

[VolTull]

This post exemplifies why this country is in bad shape.

Feel free to post it a 3rd time. <rolls eyes>

 

[VolTull]

This post exemplifies why this country is in bad shape.



A person would have to have a low index quotient to not see the photoshop which includes different backgrounds.

A person would have to have a low index quotient to not see the photo was taken at two different places which includes different backgrounds. lol

 

[VolTull]

Is Trump mentally and medically incompetent to be Prez?

Looks like it.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Is Trump mentally and medically incompetent to be Prez?

Looks like it.

lol. Liberals want this so bad because they know Biden is the worst president in modern history.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

This thread is beyond sad. Just look at the names being thrown around for president. Not a single one worth voting for.

 

[BreatheUT]

Is this supposed to be a good thing?

 

[BreatheUT]

Double post...crappy phone connection

 

[dovervolz]

lol. Liberals want this so bad because they know Biden is the worst president in modern history.

Not just modern history, in all of American history. By far the all time worst.

 

[luthervol]

Not just modern history, in all of American history. By far the all time worst.

Please. Trump will always and forever be the bottom. There will never really even be a close second to last.

 

[85SugarVol]

Please. Trump will always and forever be the bottom. There will never really even be a close second to last.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

 

[VolTull]

Not just modern history, in all of American history. By far the all time worst.

History major or blowhard?

 

[85SugarVol]

Is Trump mentally and medically incompetent to be Prez?

Looks like it.

Our guy may be old and senile, but yours is like totally old and incompetent too!

 

[luthervol]

You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

True. It's sort of like saying the moon will always orbit the Earth.
I have no way of knowing that to be true, but I'm pretty confident.

We can leave it this way, the probability of it remaining true far outweighs the probability of it becoming false.

 

[85SugarVol]

History major or blowhard?

The presidential “rankings” are subjective and incredibly biased. A group just published a ranking with Biden ahead of Reagan lol.

But the approval numbers are at least fairly objective.

And only Jimmy Carter has lower approval ratings than Joe Biden - in the history of the polling.

Biden’s current 37% is actually lower than Carter’s 37.4%

Biden's Third-Year Job Approval Average of 39.8% Second Worst

Biden averaged 39.8% job approval during his third year in office, the second-lowest third-year average for recent presidents.

news.gallup.com

 

[luthervol]

Our guy may be old and senile, but yours is like totally old and incompetent too!

I'd love to see them both dropped.

 

[hog88]

Is Trump mentally and medically incompetent to be Prez?

Looks like it.

Yes

 

[85SugarVol]

True. It's sort of like saying the moon will always orbit the Earth.
I have no way of knowing that to be true, but I'm pretty confident.

We can leave it this way, the probability of it remaining true far outweighs the probability of it becoming false.

Lol. The moon will not always orbit the Earth. That is an absolute scientific known.

This Republic will eventually die. That’s another known, known. It won’t be under Biden, or Trump, or Michelle - but it’s likely to occur under a horrible string of leaders.

 

[luthervol]

The presidential “rankings” are subjective and incredibly biased. A group just published a ranking with Biden ahead of Reagan lol.

But the approval numbers are at least fairly objective.

And only Jimmy Carter has lower approval ratings than Joe Biden - in the history of the polling.

Biden’s current 37% is actually lower than Carter’s 37.4%

Biden's Third-Year Job Approval Average of 39.8% Second Worst

Biden averaged 39.8% job approval during his third year in office, the second-lowest third-year average for recent presidents.

news.gallup.com

Carter's issue was he refused to dumb down himself and his policies in order to improve the public's opinion of him.
Sacrificing the long term for short term popularity is how we've gotten where we are. People can be idiots.

 

[hog88]

Please. Trump will always and forever be the bottom. There will never really even be a close second to last.

How many Americans died in a civil war during his presidency?

 

[VolTull]

lol. Liberals want this so bad because they know Biden is the worst president in modern history.

 

[luthervol]

How many Americans died in a civil war during his presidency?

Amazingly, and to the great disappointment of many, there was no civil war during his presidency, He certainly did all he could to bring us closer than we have been in 150 years,

How many Americans were unified because of his presidency? lol
The Great Divider.

 

[85SugarVol]

Carter's issue was he refused to dumb down himself and his policies in order to improve the public's opinion of him.
Sacrificing the long term for short term popularity is how we've gotten where we are. People can be idiots.

You’re conflating Jimmy Carter the Man, with Jimmy Carter the President.

Jimmy Carter was a good and admirable Man.