2021 Consensus Rankings (Top 75)

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It’s pretty insulting to the players she had at Missouri State that beat DePaul and Iowa State.

Those players were and are talented even if not highly ranked. It’s not like it was a Hoosiers situation.

With many of the same players, they were even better last season, going 26-4 before the season abruptly ended.

At the risk of being asked to leave for truth telling, even if not popular opinion, Coach Harper had 5 years at Western Carolina, 4 years at NC State and 5 years at Missouri State before that Cinderella run to the Sweet Sixteen.

I really hope she can be successful at Tennessee with higher ranked players. I’m a big fan of hers.
I would give Coach K what I would give any coach taking on a new collegiate program at UT ...
Four years...With visible growth in each of the 3 proceeding years.

The first year is a given,,,New coach coaching another coach's chosen players

Year two, Not seeing the obvious flaws that should be fixed and growth, establishing her brand, player development

Year three visible and definite growth in all facets, org, recruiting, player development, national recognition of growth, etc

Year four, for this university Final Four should be reached
 
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No, saying that players are more "highly-ranked" and "highly-touted" is not insulting to players. It's simply a fact that can easily be verified objectively.

The constant knock against Kellie's recruiting is that she hasn"t been able to land the top-ranked recruits. Unless you think that all players are equal or that the ranking services (and professional leagues) have it all wrong, then the reality is that some athletes are ether more naturally gifted or have developed more advanced skills than other athletes. Saying that players are not as highly-ranked (or ranked at all) does not imply that they're not good players. In fact, it's a tribute to their character that they did achieve so well...as well as being a tribute to the coaching staffs.

That's why I repeatedly used the term "ranked" or "skilled" rather than "better" players. I doubt that the MoSt players would argue that their individual skills are equal to or better than the top players recruited by Top Ten team or who makeTeam USA or who are first-round draft picks. The fact is that they utilized their talents to succeed as a team. And that requires good coaching.

As to how long it should take to develop a Tennessee team into an Elite Eight or Final Four team with our current and 2021 players, I'd guess 2-3 years, especially with the virus interruptions.
 
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I would give Coach K what I would give any coach taking on a new collegiate program at UT ...
Four years...With visible growth in each of the 3 proceeding years.

The first year is a given,,,New coach coaching another coach's chosen players

Year two, Not seeing the obvious flaws that should be fixed and growth, establishing her brand, player development

Year three visible and definite growth in all facets, org, recruiting, player development, national recognition of growth, etc

Year four, for this university Final Four should be reached
Patient growth expectations until year four. It ain’t that easy to get to the final four.
 
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No, saying that players are more "highly-ranked" and "highly-touted" is not insulting to players. It's simply a fact that can easily be verified objectively.

The constant knock against Kellie's recruiting is that she hasn"t been able to land the top-ranked recruits. Unless you think that all players are equal or that the ranking services (and professional leagues) have it all wrong, then the reality is that some athletes are ether more naturally gifted or have developed more advanced skills than other athletes. Saying that players are not as highly-ranked (or ranked at all) does not imply that they're not good players. In fact, it's a tribute to their character that they did achieve so well...as well as being a tribute to the coaching staffs.

That's why I repeatedly used the term "ranked" or "skilled" rather than "better" players. I doubt that the MoSt players would argue that their individual skills are equal to or better than the top players recruited by Top Ten team or who makeTeam USA or who are first-round draft picks. The fact is that they utilized their talents to succeed as a team. And that requires good coaching.

As to how long it should take to develop a Tennessee team into an Elite Eight or Final Four team with our current and 2021 players, I'd guess 2-3 years, especially with the virus interruptions.
You can't really assess Coach K's recruiting until after this year....Only now can the potential recruits actually see how the girls SHE recruited this year,,,HER recruits, not someone else's, but hers,,,fare. . . If I were a top five recruit who followed UT coaching for the last few years, I too would be trepidicious.

CHW did not "better" her players, if anything she unbettered them. Only after they left the program did they get better. Mercedes and Diamond are shining examples, as is Cooper,,,they are studs now, like they were supposed to be all along.

The first true grading of Kellie will be the advancement of team chemistry, offensive flow, in game coaching, winning games they aren't supposed to, and, the advancement of the 1st and 2nd year players...I don't judge Kellie by this year's Sr's or Jr's, they were chosen by and for the most part coached by CHW. (although I do expect them to shine) Kellie can put her "personal stamp" on the Freshmen and Sophomores of the upcoming season and the recruits coming in. Next year is when I expect a top five recruit, this year it would only be because it is Tennessee!

If we any get commits from any 3 of : Brooklynn, Morasha, Teonni, Bree, Jillian or Sarah
Along with what we've already got, I consider this a great first year for Coach K
 
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No, saying that players are more "highly-ranked" and "highly-touted" is not insulting to players. It's simply a fact that can easily be verified objectively.

The constant knock against Kellie's recruiting is that she hasn"t been able to land the top-ranked recruits. Unless you think that all players are equal or that the ranking services (and professional leagues) have it all wrong, then the reality is that some athletes are ether more naturally gifted or have developed more advanced skills than other athletes. Saying that players are not as highly-ranked (or ranked at all) does not imply that they're not good players. In fact, it's a tribute to their character that they did achieve so well...as well as being a tribute to the coaching staffs.

That's why I repeatedly used the term "ranked" or "skilled" rather than "better" players. I doubt that the MoSt players would argue that their individual skills are equal to or better than the top players recruited by Top Ten team or who makeTeam USA or who are first-round draft picks. The fact is that they utilized their talents to succeed as a team. And that requires good coaching.

As to how long it should take to develop a Tennessee team into an Elite Eight or Final Four team with our current and 2021 players, I'd guess 2-3 years, especially with the virus interruptions.
I love getting conversation going.

I totally understand where you are coming from. I hope she can make those timeframes.
 
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Recruiting stars is not the only aspect of building a winning team. Look at what Barnes did with a bunch of players who were not highly ranked out of high school. Player development is a large part of the equation also, but that takes some time. Kellie's MoSt last team would indicate that she can also develop players, again, given time. I have high hopes that she can get there in time. GBO.
 
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Not sure how this is going to look from a formatting perspective, but here it is. These are consensus rankings from ESPN, Prospects Nation, Blue Star Basketball, and ASGR as of 5/21/20.

*Note-I wanted to emphasize the idea of a consensus rankings, so if a player was only ranked by one site I removed them from the list. More data will be available as the ranking services update/expand their rankings and as more players commit. I'll update as that data becomes available.

Enjoy! Let me know if I missed any commitments. Also, I'm trying to note the finalists in my personal spreadsheet. If someone released a top schools list or their finalists are known even though they already committed, please feel free to let me know.

This is great stuff. You are an asset to the volnation community. Thank you.
 

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