2020 Primaries

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volfanjustin said:
No yours is a guy who wants to give away everything for free, can’t remember which state he’s in half the time, can’t remember his own name, can’t remember who he was a VP for, can’t remember what office he’s running for, fired a prosecutor for looking into his crack head kids corrupt business dealings, tells people they don’t have any business having 100 rounds of ammo, tells voters he doesn’t work for them and gets highly pissed and cusses voters when they question him
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OHvol40 said:
“Too bad so sad” is such a thoughtful stance. Thank you for your contribution.
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What choice have you given anyone? You present the concept of "fair", base your criticisms and call to change on that concept, then refuse to define or base the concept in anything but your personal credulity. So, what you've done is ask us to change our form of government on your feelings.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Im not rehashing everything that's been debated the past 10 pages on state vs presidential elections.

My point is you think a popular vote will make a president focus on issues that concern all Americans. I don't think that's what will happen at all. They'll focus on issues that appeal to high population concentration areas because they will require less money, less time, and less travel to reach voters. Not because those people are right, more deserving, or more needful. It will just be the easiest path to victory. It will simply be where can we go to maximize time/money spent to reach the most voters. Doing that will leave portions of the country on the outside looking in.
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Im sorry, any stance that doesn’t weight the vote of every citizen equally is dumb to me. Anything outside of this is just trying to put your finger on the scale for one population or another. Period
 
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Orange_Crush said:
What choice have you given anyone? You present the concept of "fair", base your criticisms and call to change on that concept, then refuse to define or base the concept in anything but your personal credulity. So, what you've done is ask us to change our form of government on your feelings.
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Fair is every citizen’s vote weighing the same as another. Thats about as simple a concept as there is.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Fair is every citizen’s vote weighing the same as another. Thats about as simple a concept as there is.
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You’ve been flicking boogers for a day and have yet to hit your intended target.

Under your desired system, you are effectively saying that you are fine with mob rule/group think, exactly what the FFs sought to root out, thus the EC. This is a very simple concept, that you continue to justify with luther-esque continuums. It’s rather embarrassing to watch you squirm so viciously.

If Trump had won the PV but lost the EC, you wouldn’t be crowing like a banty rooster. Period!
 
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OHvol40 said:
Fair is every citizen’s vote weighing the same as another. Thats about as simple a concept as there is.
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"About as simple" and "bald, unsupported assertion" are synonymous here. Make the argument for why that is fair. Is one-person-one-vote always fair? If not, when is it fair, and why?

If everyone in your homeowner association but you voted to confiscate your property, would those votes be fair? It meets your overly-simple definition.

Why is mob rule democracy more fair than a representative republic electoral college? Why? Support the assertion. We don't care about your feelings, opinion, or credulity. Win us over.

History has shown and recorded that democracy is an incredibly dangerous and unfair form of government because those who don't own property will always outnumber those who do own property, and will vote the property for themselves. This is a lesson that the FFs knew well, so they designed a system with a series of protections against that.

The FFs argued that pure democratic voting isn't fair. You disagree. You don't get to hand-wave and hide behind trite but asinine comments like "as simple a concept". That's a lazy way of admitting you can't logically support your claim.
 
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Girth Brooks said:
You’ve been flicking boogers for a day and have yet to hit your intended target.

Under your desired system, you are effectively saying that you are fine with mob rule/group think, exactly what the FFs sought to root out, thus the EC. This is a very simple concept, that you continue to justify with luther-esque continuums. It’s rather embarrassing to watch you squirm so viciously.

If Trump had won the PV but lost the EC, you wouldn’t be crowing like a banty rooster. Period!
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I guess every state, county, city, and town is governed by "mob rule/group think".
How do we ever survive?
 
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Choices, choices lol...

Psycho Joe limited to 7 minute stump speaches he can't even get right, engulfed in family pay for play corruption, attacking his rally goers who question him...

or Crazy Bernies coming to your town soon.

 
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luthervol said:
I guess every state, county, city, and town is governed by "mob rule/group think".
How do we ever survive?
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Under the US Constitution, just as you have since the beginning of your miserable existence.

Don’t like it? Change it.

Can’t change it? STHU and accept it.

It was intentionally designed to be a difficult process, so that people like you couldn’t undermine a 200-year-old+ system, that dye-laced-wig-wearers knew more about than you.

You don’t like the system because it doesn’t cater to your wants, thus it is inherently broken and needs fixed. Such a weak victim.
 
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Girth Brooks said:
You’ve been flicking boogers for a day and have yet to hit your intended target.

Under your desired system, you are effectively saying that you are fine with mob rule/group think, exactly what the FFs sought to root out, thus the EC. This is a very simple concept, that you continue to justify with luther-esque continuums. It’s rather embarrassing to watch you squirm so viciously.

If Trump had won the PV but lost the EC, you wouldn’t be crowing like a banty rooster. Period!
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Wait. OHvol is Guarantano?
 
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Girth Brooks said:
Under the US Constitution, just as you have since the beginning of your miserable existence.

Don’t like it? Change it.

Can’t change it? STHU and accept it.

It was intentionally designed to be a difficult process, so that people like you couldn’t undermine a 200-year-old+ system, that dye-laced-wig wearers knew more about than you.

You don’t like the system because it doesn’t cater to your wants, thus it is inherently broken and needs fixed. Such a weak victim.
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You skipped over the whole mob rule/group think part.
How is it able to work at the state, county, city and town levels but then be catastrophic at the national level?
 
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OHvol40 said:
What? They didn’t even know what existed past basically Ohio.
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Now we have come full circle . You say it’s not right and we should try to fix it , I say they did get it right and there’s nothing to fix . Everything is subjective .
 
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Rifleman said:
It will go blue and should be considered a battleground state right now. The trends and data analytics are very stark and very clear:

* First the big cities went blue, starting with Dallas in 2006 and continuing until Democrats swept them all.
* After showing they can govern the cities, now the suburbs are starting to turn blue, and O'Rourke actually beat Ted Cruz in those areas too.
* Ted Cruz won 67% in rural areas, but barely won overall because only 1 in 4 Texas voters live in rural areas and that share shrinks every year.

Only those immune to data, demographics, common sense, and trend lines believe Texas will be red forever.

The better questions are:

* Can the GOP change its policies, dispositions, and outreach to reverse these trends?
* If not, where can the GOP take roughly 40 EVs from the Democrats? If Florida flips blue, then you'll need about 70.
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Seems like we all have heard about these data points and trends recently... I just can’t remember what year it was . Oh ! now I remember .
 
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TheDeeble said:
I've always wondered if I'm one of few people that think like this. It's not something I hear about on news or read about much.
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Probably because it's common sense. Any system will regulate itself to the midline eventually. Those that don't..... Die out.
If people were honest with themselves and stepped back from all the produced drama I think this system is on reset. Novel concept and very boring.
 
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