2020 Primaries

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#4,701
OHvol40 said:
The majority of Americans favor popular vote to EC. Rural states just stand behind “this is the status quo and we like it that way, so deal with it”.
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1)- you keep saying Most Americans are for it , but it never changes even when the one party owns both Houses and the Oval Office .

2)- Yup .. pretty much how it is .
 
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OHvol40 said:
The majority of Americans favor popular vote to EC. Rural states just stand behind “this is the status quo and we like it that way, so deal with it”.
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Once again you're using the wrong standard. A majority doesn't mean a damn thing where the Constitution is concerned. You need two thirds to amend it. When you get to that point, let me know.
 
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#4,703
OHvol40 said:
I assure you plenty of Americans don’t want you to decide an election either, doesn’t mean every vote shouldn’t count the same.
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Then move. Every vote is counted the same.
How about this stop whining about voter suppression when is just asking people to show their id.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
What standard of "fairness/justice" do you want to use for the debate? If ya'll can agree on that, ya'll can have that debate. Short of an agreed upon standard and source of rights, you get down to the Constitution as the guide for justice and fairness.

What does the Constitution say is fair?
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Every voting American having an equal say in an election that affects them all equally? I’d say that’s a perfect example of fair.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Because that’s all he knows . He’s the definition of the establishment politician for the left now . He will be uninspiring, unoriginal, do as he is told by the powers that be , one term POTUS if he’s elected .
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Not so fast my friend. They will impeach him in some form or fashion, and install his establishment selected Veep. No body can watch the video he provides on a constant basis and truly believe he should be running the POTUS. Brought to you by the DNC...A man, when he does remember what day it is, trusts us to know that thing, and then cusses people out that he was trying to reach as voters.
 
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OHvol40 said:
What do states have to do with anything? In an election that affects every American, every American should have an equal say. Anything else is trying to put your finger on the scale.
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And if you don't like it you can move. Simple as that. If it's so oppressive here you have the ability to move
 
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GVF said:
Not so fast my friend. They will impeach him in some form or fashion, and install his establishment selected Veep. No body can watch the video he provides on a constant basis and truly believe he should be running the POTUS. Brought to you by the DNC...A man, when he does remember what day it is, trusts us to know that thing, and then cusses people out that he was trying to reach as voters.
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That’s possible but why impeach him if you can control him . He will be one of the most usable presidents in history . All his bestie ( Obama ) has to do is suggest something and it will become an agenda .
 
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Rifleman said:
The guy was full of it. Spending your days watching "viral videos" is a great way to become clueless and Joe told him off.

As Scalia clearly outlined in the Heller decision, some reasonable restrictions are implicit in the second amendment. As Joe said, you can't own a machine gun.

So much for the "Sleepy Joe" narrative. This is why President Fiberace's make up has been so runny and uneven lately. He knows his time is coming to an end if Biden is the nominee.
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Joe Biden literally just said that “150 million people have been killed by guns in the United States “ and you want to talk about full of it? Biden is a clown, and these little outbursts do nothing to help him. Look at the Iowa farmer who asked him about his son, next thing you know Biden’s twitching and calling the dude fat, challenging him to a push up contest. Keep dreaming, trump wins again.
 
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GVF said:
The EC is the absolute fairest system that could possibly be created for our election process. Unfair, would be NY and Cali snuffing out the voice of voters everywhere else in sparsely populated America. The EC creates fairness and equality among voters and the citizens of this country. It makes my vote count just as much as someone's in Orange County.
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Wow, this is expert level naive.
 
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Rifleman said:
The guy was full of it. Spending your days watching "viral videos" is a great way to become clueless and Joe told him off.

As Scalia clearly outlined in the Heller decision, some reasonable restrictions are implicit in the second amendment. As Joe said, you can't own a machine gun.

So much for the "Sleepy Joe" narrative. This is why President Fiberace's make up has been so runny and uneven lately. He knows his time is coming to an end if Biden is the nominee.
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The guy brought up valid points and probably knew it's easy to get under the skin of that corrupt thin skinned punk. The guy made Joe show us all once again exactly who he is
 
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0nelilreb said:
Those union guys aren’t the ones he wants to be getting into it with like that because I promise they and all their union buddies will vote . They aren’t the stay at home voters you can do that with too many times .
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I would imagine union workers are getting sick and tired of the socialist party
 
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Rifleman said:
The guy was full of it. Spending your days watching "viral videos" is a great way to become clueless and Joe told him off.

As Scalia clearly outlined in the Heller decision, some reasonable restrictions are implicit in the second amendment. As Joe said, you can't own a machine gun.

So much for the "Sleepy Joe" narrative. This is why President Fiberace's make up has been so runny and uneven lately. He knows his time is coming to an end if Biden is the nominee.
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Which of Biden's policies do you favor the most?
 
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0nelilreb said:
1)- you keep saying Most Americans are for it , but it never changes even when the one party owns both Houses and the Oval Office .

2)- Yup .. pretty much how it is .
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When has one party owned the majority needed to create an amendment? There are like 40 rural states and 10 populous states, so how do you figure the congress would ever have enough populous state representatives to actually make it right?
 
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Sea Ray said:
Once again you're using the wrong standard. A majority doesn't mean a damn thing where the Constitution is concerned. You need two thirds to amend it. When you get to that point, let me know.
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I know you’re happy with conservative votes counting disproportionately more than the rest, but America isn’t with you.
 
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vols40 said:
Then move. Every vote is counted the same.
How about this stop whining about voter suppression when is just asking people to show their id.
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Ok, so now you’re switching subjects? Just to be clear you don’t want to talk about the EC anymore?
 
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