2020 Primaries

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1972 Grad said:
You and the Dems will have buyer's remorse before this is over.
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I think in the middle of the 2nd debate between he and Trump, Joe will break down and have a complete dementia moment and stutter to himself, and/or have a breakdown and cry....

It will be sad and fulfilling at the same time, because the Dems putting him out there at this point is their own doing
 
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Mick said:
Stop the presses and call off the campaign, it's over for Biden now.
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Nah because your mindless idiots will vote for him since that's what the DNC told you to do. That old corrupt f'er can't handle being called out. I was hoping that guy was going to punch him
 
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Mick said:
Stop the presses and call off the campaign, it's over for Biden now.
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Yep that's a good look for him, pointing his finger in the guy's face and shouting "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Man." That'll get the workers in that plant to vote alright. Just not for him.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I think in the middle of the 2nd debate between he and Trump, Joe will break down and have a complete dementia moment and stutter to himself, and/or have a breakdown and cry....

It will be sad and fulfilling at the same time, because the Dems putting him out there at this point is their own doing
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There is no way Mrs. Dumpsterfire is going to debate under the hot lights with all the trouble she's been having with her orange makeup lately.
 
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Septic said:
You think Sanders has a better chance at defeating Trump?
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Nope. I think the Dem Party decided to get behind Biden because they have nobody else. They probably think they would lose the House and the Presidency with Bernie at the top of the ticket. I am guessing that they think they can hold the House with Biden.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Nope. I think the Dem Party decided to get behind Biden because they have nobody else. They probably think they would lose the House and the Presidency with Bernie at the top of the ticket. I am guessing that they think they can hold the House with Biden.
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I still think Biden is a placeholder.
 
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volfanjustin said:
More of the same video, so Biden tells a voter he's "full of s**t" Listen to first few seconds of the video. What a worthless piece of garbage. He can't handle being challenged
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That’s his centrist , union base he’s talking to like that . It’s always been the Democratic base , he should be very careful here .
 
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luthervol said:
I've heard that stated about 2000 times.
If that is how a person determines their vote, they're not very sharp to begin with.
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That is exactly, exactly how you determine your vote. By full blown TDS hysteria. Orange man bad. Despicable. Horrible person. Accomplishments be damned. You're so dull.
 
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0nelilreb said:
That’s his centrist , union base he talking to like that . It’s always been the Democratic base , he should be very careful here .
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So many issues here:
AR-14
You're full of schiff
Pointing his finger within an inch of the guys chest

He's senile and very short tempered. At some point someone is going to knock the schiff out of him
 
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Weezer said:
I've explained it, you just don't like the explanation because it doesn't end up with Hillary as President. Ask yourself this, and answer it honestly, if Trump had won the popular and Hillary the EC, would you be complaining about it? I don't think you would. I think you'd be perfectly happy with Hillary as your President and you wouldn't be complaining about an "antiquated system" claiming Trump should be President. I'm right, aren't I?
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It’s sounds like your defense is that it allows the minority to rule the majority, and you’re happy with that. Still no logic as to why the EC is fair to voters.
 
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0nelilreb said:
That’s his centrist , union base he talking to like that . It’s always been the Democratic base , he should be very careful here .
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Biden gets mad too quickly when someone asks or challenges him on issues he has stood for in times past.
He wants to bring back Obama policies from ten years ago & put the same corrupt Obama people in place again to run the country into the ground. Biden has NO new ideas on how to run this country......but says "here's the deal".
 
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volfanjustin said:
So many issues here:
AR-14
You're full of schiff
Pointing his finger within an inch of the guys chest

He's senile and very short tempered. At some point someone is going to knock the schiff out of him
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Those union guys aren’t the ones he wants to be getting into it with like that because I promise they and all their union buddies will vote . They aren’t the stay at home voters you can do that with too many times .
 
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OHvol40 said:
So you’re suggesting large scale gerrymandering to fix the problem? Candidates picking their voters to fix the problem?

This is what happens, the people whom this system benefits argue “it was created this way, so fix it if you want it fixed” instead of actually debating the fairness behind the system.
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The EC is the absolute fairest system that could possibly be created for our election process. Unfair, would be NY and Cali snuffing out the voice of voters everywhere else in sparsely populated America. The EC creates fairness and equality among voters and the citizens of this country. It makes my vote count just as much as someone's in Orange County.
 
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Sea Ray said:
The onus is on you to change it and your argument of a majority defies the Constitution. If you knew a little about that you'd know that it takes two thirds of a lot of things to change (amend) it. You need to convince a lot of us that the EC needs to change and you're not doing so well.
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The majority of Americans favor popular vote to EC. Rural states just stand behind “this is the status quo and we like it that way, so deal with it”.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Biden gets mad too quickly when someone asks or challenges him on issues he has stood for in times past.
He wants to bring back Obama policies from ten years ago & put the same corrupt Obama people in place again to run the country into the ground..
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Because that’s all he knows . He’s the definition of the establishment politician for the left now . He will be uninspiring, unoriginal, do as he is told by the powers that be , one term POTUS if he’s elected .
 
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volfanjustin said:
So many issues here:
AR-14
You're full of schiff
Pointing his finger within an inch of the guys chest

He's senile and very short tempered. At some point someone is going to knock the schiff out of him
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The guy was full of it. Spending your days watching "viral videos" is a great way to become clueless and Joe told him off.

As Scalia clearly outlined in the Heller decision, some reasonable restrictions are implicit in the second amendment. As Joe said, you can't own a machine gun.

So much for the "Sleepy Joe" narrative. This is why President Fiberace's make up has been so runny and uneven lately. He knows his time is coming to an end if Biden is the nominee.
 
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volfanjustin said:
So many issues here:
AR-14
You're full of schiff
Pointing his finger within an inch of the guys chest

He's senile and very short tempered. At some point someone is going to knock the schiff out of him
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AR-14 is a real weapon but I still think he misspoke on that, and people in the RNC think this makes Biden look good, not bad.
And if Bernie had done this his supporters would be popping champagne.
 
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McDad said:
Have thought a lot about the EC since stumbling into this discussion last night. There is no defense, logical or otherwise, necessary. The onus to defend or prosecute is on those who wish to change the current system.

To answer your second question: just like checks and balances are inherent in our system to ward against tyranny, different pathways to government leadership exist as safeguards from tyranny. Some positions are elected by popular vote, some positions are appointed, and one is elected by appointed Electors. Senators were originally appointed (should still be, imo). Supreme court justices are appointed. There is wisdom in removing the "majority rule" approach as power is condensed. Representatives, have less individual power than Senators, Justices, or the President. Majority rule for Representatives is less dangerous than majority rule for President. Furthermore, the design gives voice to all the governed. The people by Representatives. The states by Senators. And the Federal by the President.
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Again, just because it’s what we have doesn’t mean it’s right. There is “no defense necessary” because the people who benefit disproportionately from it prefer not to admit that they get special preference and don’t want to debate fairness... because it’s not fair.
 
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