2019 NBA Offseason - Beastmode Cowboy Edition

#29
#29
Kingston Vol said:
Think I could get behind a late second for him. Bench bigs don’t need to score.
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I don't want to trash Alexander, but I just don't see him hacking it in the NBA. He's not very strong, and he doesn't have the athleticism or coordination to make up for that fact. A big red flag is that he didn't seem to get better at anything between his junior and senior year.
 
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#30
#30
Huff already pretty nailed it. I think fringe guys need at least 1 thing you can look at to build around. Kyle was a decent shot blocker, but I don't think that translates to the next level for the reasons Huff mentioned. Or fringe guys need "potential" to grow as a player and I think Kyle, based on the things Huff mentioned, is just at his ceiling TBH.

I appreciate that Kyle was a piece on make us relevant again, but his future is definitely overseas. IMO
 
#31
#31
BadJerry20 said:
Huff already pretty nailed it. I think fringe guys need at least 1 thing you can look at to build around. Kyle was a decent shot blocker, but I don't think that translates to the next level for the reasons Huff mentioned. Or fringe guys need "potential" to grow as a player and I think Kyle, based on the things Huff mentioned, is just at his ceiling TBH.

I appreciate that Kyle was a piece on make us relevant again, but his future is definitely overseas. IMO
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I could mayyyybbbeeeeee see him as like a guy who backups an elite center and you play him 12-15 MPG at most (like Zaza this year) but his lack of one elite skill really hurts him. I don’t believe he’s a rotation player in the NBA.
 
#32
#32
n_huffhines said:
I don't want to trash Alexander, but I just don't see him hacking it in the NBA. He's not very strong, and he doesn't have the athleticism or coordination to make up for that fact. A big red flag is that he didn't seem to get better at anything between his junior and senior year.
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BadJerry20 said:
Huff already pretty nailed it. I think fringe guys need at least 1 thing you can look at to build around. Kyle was a decent shot blocker, but I don't think that translates to the next level for the reasons Huff mentioned. Or fringe guys need "potential" to grow as a player and I think Kyle, based on the things Huff mentioned, is just at his ceiling TBH.

I appreciate that Kyle was a piece on make us relevant again, but his future is definitely overseas. IMO
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I don’t necessarily disagree, just wouldn’t be stunned to see him sneak in the last few picks.

Think he could be a fairly good pick and roll rim runner. Barnes’ 1999 offense didn’t necessarily accentuate any of those strengths.
 
#33
#33
zjcvols said:
I could mayyyybbbeeeeee see him as like a guy who backups an elite center and you play him 12-15 MPG at most (like Zaza this year) but his lack of one elite skill really hurts him. I don’t believe he’s a rotation player in the NBA.
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Maybe, he would need to bulk up a lot for that role, I just think he would get pushed around a lot in the NBA. He doesn't seem very strong, or have a particularly strong base or play with leverage well, which is how the Zazas of the world make it. JMO
 
#34
#34
Kingston Vol said:
I don’t necessarily disagree, just wouldn’t be stunned to see him sneak in the last few picks.

Think he could be a fairly good pick and roll rim runner. Barnes’ 1999 offense didn’t necessarily accentuate any of those strengths.
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He can shoot a little bit, and that would need to come around for him to find a place in the NBA.
 
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#35
#35
BadJerry20 said:
Maybe, he would need to bulk up a lot for that role, I just think he would get pushed around a lot in the NBA. He doesn't seem very strong, or have a particularly strong base or play with leverage well, which is how the Zazas of the world make it. JMO
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I will say this. He’s got good touch and was restricted shooting the ball. I think he can hit 3’s. If he can somehow bulk up to 230 and block shots he could have a chance.
 
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#36
#36
Kingston Vol said:
I don’t necessarily disagree, just wouldn’t be stunned to see him sneak in the last few picks.

Think he could be a fairly good pick and roll rim runner. Barnes’ 1999 offense didn’t necessarily accentuate any of those strengths.
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True, he's just so awkward. I hope he makes it, but I just don't like his chances. Absolutely no shame in making a lot of money overseas either. Always hate it when I see people use that as a negative, not that any of us do, just saying.
 
#37
#37
zjcvols said:
I will say this. He’s got good touch and was restricted shooting the ball. I think he can hit 3’s. If he can somehow bulk up to 230 and block shots he could have a chance.
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He does have decent touch, so yeah I could see that.
 
#38
#38
BadJerry20 said:
True, he's just so awkward. I hope he makes it, but I just don't like his chances. Absolutely no shame in making a lot of money overseas either. Always hate it when I see people use that as a negative, not that any of us do, just saying.
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You should go overseas.
 
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#39
#39
zjcvols said:
I will say this. He’s got good touch and was restricted shooting the ball. I think he can hit 3’s. If he can somehow bulk up to 230 and block shots he could have a chance.
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Draft Express had him sneaking into the first round earlier this year (they now have him undrafted.) The tools are there and my bet is teams see it.

I don’t know why teams picking in the 50’s wouldn’t take a chance.
 
#41
#41
I honestly don't keep up with the draft, is Bone keeping his name in the draft?
 
#42
#42
BadJerry20 said:
I honestly don't keep up with the draft, is Bone keeping his name in the draft?
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Nothing official but every report suggests yes he’s done with college. He’s starting to get some talk about second round
 
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#43
#43
zjcvols said:
Nothing official but every report suggests yes he’s done with college. He’s starting to get some talk about second round
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Kind of weird that he's staying being maybe a second rounder. Grades maybe? He needs work but I really like Bone. We better hope Josiah James is great or we are in trouble next year.
 
#44
#44
If Bone isn't getting first round talk, he should stay. I think you need to be at least getting first-round consideration to leave early. I wonder if he's anticipating a good showing at the combine. If he's a +6 wingspan guy, that could make him leap up draft boards.
 
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#45
#45
I'm not saying it is, but grades or finances can push a kid to stay in the draft no matter what. Or maybe he just hired Hopson's old agent.
 
#46
#46
One thing about this draft is it's very short on PG's. Of all the guys I'm typically seeing in the top 40, only a few look like true PG's and a few more combo guards. Lots of wings, forwards, and bigs.
 
#47
#47
Fair point, but at the same time I can't think of many teams that PG is their first or even second biggest need. Sure teams could upgrade, but overall PG is pretty stacked even past the top tier guys.
 
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