2018 Midterm Election Thread

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SpaceCoastVol said:
What do you mean 'defer to Bill Gates'? He created more taxpayers than you can count.

OC said your argument wasn't rational. It isn't reasonable either.
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Gates said "I've paid more taxes than any person in history and I think the laws should require me to pay more."
 
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luthervol said:
Gates said "I've paid more taxes than any person in history and I think the laws should require me to pay more."
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That isn't a rational argument. It sounds like you're validating your opinion by reference to someone else's opinion. Did you want to give it another, better try to rationally and logically base your claim of "fair" share? I understand if you don't. That's fine.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Luther needs to

Luther needs to clarify whether the rich get more benefit from society, or whether they cost society more to maintain. I don't think he can support either argument, but each claim would require different arguments.

And he would also need to support a system that charged more based on benefit, as opposed to cost.
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It's more of a benefits argument.
 
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luthervol said:
Gates said "I've paid more taxes than any person in history and I think the laws should require me to pay more."
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They do. If it was 10% he still would. That said there’s nothing saying you can’t give as much as you want. There’s millions rapid refunding that free money every year. They say thanks to that free money out of thin air.
 
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luthervol said:
Gates said "I've paid more taxes than any person in history and I think the laws should require me to pay more."
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He can donate all he wants to the .gov. But he is not a stupid man. His money is better spent searching for the eradication of malaria.


Your argument using him as a reference... yet another opinion... is insipid.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I can't wait to hear it.
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Continuing to use your neighborhood analogy:

Let's say it's a gated community with a manned guard house at the entrance, security cameras throughout, and a cruiser. The person with the most to lose, the most being protected, is benefiting the most.

Sort of like home and property insurance. The more you are insuring, the more you are required to pay.
 
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luthervol said:
You, not surprisingly, miss the whole point. You are aware of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
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Yes I am, what does that have to do with the conversation about taxes? Unless you agree that they use the foundation as a way reduce their tax liabilities.
 
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hog88 said:
Yes I am, what does that have to do with the conversation about taxes? Unless you agree that they use the foundation as a way reduce their tax liabilities.
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Your comment that he could pay more in taxis if he wanted misses the whole point. His point was that he (and the wealthiest) should be legally required to carry more of the tax burden than they currently do.
 
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luthervol said:
Your comment that he could pay more in taxis if he wanted misses the whole point. His point was that he (and the wealthiest) should be legally required to carry more of the tax burden than they currently do.
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He can argue that point all he wants, he would still use every legally available way to pay as little as he had to.
 
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luthervol said:
Continuing to use your neighborhood analogy:

Let's say it's a gated community with a manned guard house at the entrance, security cameras throughout, and a cruiser. The person with the most to lose, the most being protected, is benefiting the most.

Sort of like home and property insurance. The more you are insuring, the more you are required to pay.
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This argument is beyond retarded. It's brain dead.
 
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Mick said:
You mean to tell the the partisan tax plan the Republicans passed didn't address this and in fact made it easier for real estate investors to keep doing the same? You're a Business professor, would you want to enlighten us on what they did to reform this issue?
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evillawyer said:
Hard for Dems to reform tax laws when they control absolutely nothing in the Federal government. GOP had chance to reform tax laws, but my understanding is that for real estate developers and investors (like Jared) they got even more favorable tax treatment. Most polls I've seen show that most working stiffs have not seen any noticable benefit from the tax reforms. So yeah, this won't play well for them. 9 figure millionaires with zero federal tax liability pushing tax laws that create even more benefits for them, while average Joes pay thousands in federal taxes. Not something any sensible GOPer wants to campaign on.
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Not in exact order but to EL first - Dems had complete control and did nothing. They had plenty of chances to change the tax code and punted.

To Mick - I don't know if the last reform changed any code that relates to what Kushner allegedly used.

To both - why b!tch about someone you don't like who legally used the tax code and EL pontificate about how some people will be PO'd. It's a time honored tradition to try to pay as little taxes as possible and I'm betting that the only people who'll be bent about this are people who already hate Kushner (for whatever reason). The "working stiffs" won't give a crap unless they're already on the victimhood train with the DNC
 
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luthervol said:
Your comment that he could pay more in taxis if he wanted misses the whole point. His point was that he (and the wealthiest) should be legally required to carry more of the tax burden than they currently do.
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whatever the burden is - it should be more. this is the ongoing mantra. there's no specificity; no metric; just make them pay more and give it to the people/programs I decide.
 
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luthervol said:
Continuing to use your neighborhood analogy:

Let's say it's a gated community with a manned guard house at the entrance, security cameras throughout, and a cruiser. The person with the most to lose, the most being protected, is benefiting the most.

Sort of like home and property insurance. The more you are insuring, the more you are required to pay.
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Incorrect analogy based on your socialist theory. The person in the most expensive house has a higher need for more protection. Thus in order to provide the rich guy with the protection according to his need everybody else should ante more to pay for his increased need. They don’t need that increased protection on their cheap ass property anyway.
 
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volinbham said:
Not in exact order but to EL first - Dems had complete control and did nothing. They had plenty of chances to change the tax code and punted.

To Mick - I don't know if the last reform changed any code that relates to what Kushner allegedly used.

To both - why b!tch about someone you don't like who legally used the tax code and EL pontificate about how some people will be PO'd. It's a time honored tradition to try to pay as little taxes as possible and I'm betting that the only people who'll be bent about this are people who already hate Kushner (for whatever reason). The "working stiffs" won't give a crap unless they're already on the victimhood train with the DNC
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That’s one of EL’s new talking points. “We can’t do anything we’re victims. Woe to us.” He conveniently forgets they had the WH for 8 years and a majority Congress at the start.
 
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