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The advantage of being in the UK is that we're an island and there is a relatively low number of illegal immigrants. They have no workers rights and, if found, they are deported.

But the USA is a different ball game entirely. There is a huge southern border with a relatively poor country and there are at least 13 million illegals already there. I agree they shouldn't have voting rights, ever. But deporting that many people is just not viable. It will clog the court systems and even a favourable estimate is that is would take until the 2080s to deport close to that many individuals. Trump is in cloud cuckoo land.
 
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My lefty friends are having conniptions about Trump. There was an op-ed in the Washington Post about how "dangerous" he is and how he must be stopped. The author (a Harvard prof BTW) didn't waste any time comparing him to Hitler - boom; right there in the first paragraph.

Part of me is hoping he wins just to see people lose their minds!

You're beginning to lose grip on the reason you're known for possessing on here. Tread lightly, darling.
 
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You believe his chart that claims 22% of illegals receive food stamps? And 51% receive Medicaid?

How many kids get free breakfasts and lunches provided at school each day?
You spew this **** that they aren't getting free health care yet you recognized earlier that they were getting prescription drugs.
Face it man..... The illegals are getting benefits. Why do you think they're flocking here like blackbirds? It ain't for the tacos bra
 
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The advantage of being in the UK is that we're an island and there is a relatively low number of illegal immigrants. They have no workers rights and, if found, they are deported.

But the USA is a different ball game entirely. There is a huge southern border with a relatively poor country and there are at least 13 million illegals already there. I agree they shouldn't have voting rights, ever. But deporting that many people is just not viable. It will clog the court systems and even a favourable estimate is that is would take until the 2080s to deport close to that many individuals. Trump is in cloud cuckoo land.

Do you guys have issues with Islamic immigrants trying to crash your gates? I've seen stories about them disrupting the highways and hijacking trucks and etc
 
Why do so many just believe a randomn article without digging deeper? It is an issue for both sides. But Jesus use some sort of critical thinking folks.
 
No. They're really not. But you have proof, go ahead. I'd do you good to research this. I'll reply to whatever you post in the morning

If you deny that some/many illegal aliens receive food stamps, you need to throw away the gun you wave around and quit teaching America's school children.
 
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Like when Reagan's son said on twitter that "Trump should be running as a Democrat"

"Any host that believes Trump is like my father never really knew my father..It's an insult."

"Rubio gave the most Reaganesque speech tonight about the greatness of America"

Trumpkin twitter flipped sh$t called him a RINO establishment SOB.

It amazes me how much people are moved by words/speeches... not actions.
 
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If you deny that some/many illegal aliens receive food stamps, you need to throw away the gun you wave around and quit teaching America's school children.

SNAP Policy on Non-Citizen Eligibility

Last Published: 11/07/2014
A person must be a U.S. citizen or an eligible, lawfully-present non-citizen to qualify for SNAP benefits. Non-citizens who are eligible based on their immigration status must also satisfy other SNAP eligibility requirements such as income and resource limits to receive SNAP benefits.


Non-citizens eligible with no waiting period.

The following non-citizens are eligible with no waiting period:
◾Qualified alien children under 18.
◾Refugees admitted under section 207 of INA (includes victims of severe forms of trafficking).
◾Victims of Trafficking under the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000.
◾Asylees under Section 208 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).
◾Deportation withheld under 243(h) or 241(b)(3) of INA.
◾Amerasian immigrants under 584 of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing and Related Programs Appropriations Act.
◾Cuban or Haitian entrants as defined in 501(e) of the Refugee Education Assistance Act of 1980.
◾Iraqi and Afghan special immigrants under Section 101(a)(27) of the INA.
◾Certain American Indians born abroad.
◾Members of Hmong or Highland Laotian tribes that helped the U.S. military during the Vietnam era, and who are legally living in the U.S., and their spouses or surviving spouses and unmarried dependent children.
◾Elderly individuals born on or before Aug. 22, 1931 and who lawfully resided in the U.S. on Aug. 22, 1996.
◾Lawful Permanent Residents in the U.S. and receiving government payments for disability or blindness.
◾Lawful Permanent Residents with a military connection (veteran, on active duty, or spouse or child of a veteran or active duty service member).



Qualified aliens eligible after a waiting period.

A qualified alien is a non-citizen with a certain immigration status as defined under PRWORA.

A qualified alien who does not belong to one of the non-citizen groups listed above as eligible with no waiting period can get SNAP benefits if the person is otherwise eligible, and is:
◾A Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) who has earned, or can be credited with, 40 quarters of work; or
◾A qualified alien in one of the following groups who has been in qualified status for 5 years:
o Paroled for at least one year under section 212(d)(5) of INA.
o Granted conditional entry under 203(a)(7) of INA in effect prior to 4/1/80.
o Battered spouse, battered child or parent or child of a battered person with a
petition pending under 204(a)(1)(A) or (B) or 244(a)(3) of INA.

Some States have programs to supply food benefits in lieu of SNAP to non-citizens who do not qualify for SNAP benefits. This information can be accessed in the SNAP State Options Report.
 
SNAP Policy on Non-Citizen Eligibility

Last Published: 11/07/2014
A person must be a U.S. citizen or an eligible, lawfully-present non-citizen to qualify for SNAP benefits. Non-citizens who are eligible based on their immigration status must also satisfy other SNAP eligibility requirements such as income and resource limits to receive SNAP benefits.


Non-citizens eligible with no waiting period.

The following non-citizens are eligible with no waiting period:
◾Qualified alien children under 18.
◾Refugees admitted under section 207 of INA (includes victims of severe forms of trafficking).
◾Victims of Trafficking under the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000.
◾Asylees under Section 208 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).
◾Deportation withheld under 243(h) or 241(b)(3) of INA.
◾Amerasian immigrants under 584 of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing and Related Programs Appropriations Act.
◾Cuban or Haitian entrants as defined in 501(e) of the Refugee Education Assistance Act of 1980.
◾Iraqi and Afghan special immigrants under Section 101(a)(27) of the INA.
◾Certain American Indians born abroad.
◾Members of Hmong or Highland Laotian tribes that helped the U.S. military during the Vietnam era, and who are legally living in the U.S., and their spouses or surviving spouses and unmarried dependent children.
◾Elderly individuals born on or before Aug. 22, 1931 and who lawfully resided in the U.S. on Aug. 22, 1996.
◾Lawful Permanent Residents in the U.S. and receiving government payments for disability or blindness.
◾Lawful Permanent Residents with a military connection (veteran, on active duty, or spouse or child of a veteran or active duty service member).



Qualified aliens eligible after a waiting period.

A qualified alien is a non-citizen with a certain immigration status as defined under PRWORA.

A qualified alien who does not belong to one of the non-citizen groups listed above as eligible with no waiting period can get SNAP benefits if the person is otherwise eligible, and is:
◾A Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) who has earned, or can be credited with, 40 quarters of work; or
◾A qualified alien in one of the following groups who has been in qualified status for 5 years:
o Paroled for at least one year under section 212(d)(5) of INA.
o Granted conditional entry under 203(a)(7) of INA in effect prior to 4/1/80.
o Battered spouse, battered child or parent or child of a battered person with a
petition pending under 204(a)(1)(A) or (B) or 244(a)(3) of INA.

Some States have programs to supply food benefits in lieu of SNAP to non-citizens who do not qualify for SNAP benefits. This information can be accessed in the SNAP State Options Report.

In addition, ANCHOR BABIES. The Illegal Aliens who are women know perfectly well how to game the American welfare system. Push out those babies on American soil and the American welfare system's doors open wide for them. How many times per year do you think that happens?
 
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I vote based on my principles. Not on a hurd mentality. So if Hillary wins, it won't be because of me. It will be on the idiots who voted for her. Same for trump if he wins

The last I checked all votes were weighted equally, unless you're somehow claiming that your vote is worth less than the "idiots who vote for Hillary". So while it's valid to claim one can vote on their principles, it's absolutely incorrect to assume that your vote would not help Hillary get elected no matter how you want to spin it.

This is simple addition and subtraction so it should make since to you, as the fundamentals of math are not changed based on "why" a number is in one column or the other.
 
The last I checked all votes were weighted equally, unless you're somehow claiming that your vote is worth less than the "idiots who vote for Hillary". So while it's valid to claim one can vote on their principles, it's absolutely incorrect to assume that your vote would not help Hillary get elected no matter how you want to spin it.

This is simple addition and subtraction so it should make since to you, as the fundamentals of math are not changed based on "why" a number is in one column or the other.

*cents.
 
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Napolitano: California To Allow Illegal Immigrants To Vote For The Next President | The Daily Caller

Scary even with photo ID it can still be possible to vote and not be a citizen

Put your focus a little bit higher...

Noncitizen-Voting Case--DOJ Rebuked

The Federal Government, represented by the Department of Justice, wanted to abandon a ruling by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission allowing certain states to enforce a citizenship requirement to vote in their elections:

This morning, as I predicted would happen in an article on Sunday, the U.S. Justice Department took a dive and filed a pleading in which it not only failed to defend the actions of the EAC, but agreed with the plaintiffs and consented to both a TRO and a PI. Judge Leon called the pleading “unprecedented” and “extraordinary.” He said he had never seen such a document in his entire experience as a lawyer or a judge. He was obviously astonished that the Justice Department was not defending the agency, and it was soon clear he was not going to allow DOJ to just roll over.

Meanwhile the Kansas Secretary of State put forward the logic behind the state's decision to require proof of citizenship:

Secretary of State Kobach did a much better job than the plaintiffs in explaining why the plaintiffs had not met the standards for the issuance of a TRO. Kobach pointed out the many errors and mistakes made by the plaintiffs’ lawyer. And he laid out the evidence of noncitizens registering and voting in Kansas — which is why this proof-of-citizenship law is needed.

So we have a Department of Justice, doing the bidding of the White House, trying to block attempts by these states to guarantee free and fair elections within their boundaries.

The illegal immigrant is a potential voter for the Democratic Party and its open borders adherents. If you can prevent states from establishing even the most basic requirements in guaranteeing the citizenship of its voters, then you can control the way the elections turn out. Control the elections and you can maintain and enhance your power.

These people do not want a constitutional republic. They want authoritarian rule and rigged elections to rubber-stamp that rule.

I would think someone in the Governing Wing would put a stop to this. But they are focused entirely on Trump and Cruz. After all, they are the real dangers to the nation. Forget the folks at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue who are attempting to turn elections into totalitarian farce.

It is a shame that it takes Kansas to do the job the United States should be doing when it comes to promoting and preserving fair and honest elections.
 
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You think Sanders' message is one of hate for the rich? I guess you could look at it that way. I tend to look at it more like a guy who is upset with the wealthy demanding they take a bigger role in giving back to a nation that has given them so much. That this message, however, may unintentionally encourage some of his followers to hate the wealthy is probably a given.

I suppose either candidate could whip some unscrupulous people into acts of violence against certain target groups in a delusional frenzied state, but it seems to me that there is more of a violence to Trump's rhetoric (although he never directly calls for violence against Muslims or illegals), which is probably not helped by the fact that he often encourages attendees at his events to beat up fellow attendees who are "stirring up trouble," in his opinion.
The problem is his definition of "rich".
 
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One step closer

Today Federal Judge Emmet G. Sullivan granted JW's motion for discovery into whether the State Department and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton deliberately thwarted the FOIA for six years. The developments come in a JW FOIA lawsuit that seeks records about the controversial employment status of Huma Abedin, former Deputy Chief of Staff to Clinton. The lawsuit was reopened because of revelations about Clinton’s separate email records (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-01363)) Judge Sullivan authorized JW to submit a plan for “narrowly-tailored discovery.” Judge Sullivan is also considering whether to order the State Department to subpoena all the emails on the clinton.com email system.
And in today's news: Judge Sullivan met with a mysterious tractor trailer accident which completely decapitated him and mashed his still writhing corpse into the muddy hillside where he happened to be playing with his dog. The tractor trailer rig was more than 75 feet from the nearest road. The driver was nowhere to be found. The police are looking for the owner of the rig with Arkansas plates KAN-KLZ. The dog was also killed.
 
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I'll go ahead and vote for Johnson if Trump wins the nomination. I'm still hoping that Rubio can win the nomination.

If Carson, Kasich, and Cruz drop out, that's when Rubio can beat Trump. The only problem is that by the time those candidates drop out, it'll probably be too late for him.
 
How many kids get free breakfasts and lunches provided at school each day?
You spew this **** that they aren't getting free health care yet you recognized earlier that they were getting prescription drugs.
Face it man..... The illegals are getting benefits. Why do you think they're flocking here like blackbirds? It ain't for the tacos bra

A few received it through a loophole that was never meant to happen. They're coming here for jobs and education. Not for food stamps and free health care as you suggest
 
In addition, ANCHOR BABIES. The Illegal Aliens who are women know perfectly well how to game the American welfare system. Push out those babies on American soil and the American welfare system's doors open wide for them. How many times per year do you think that happens?

Anchor babies are citizens. The mothers would still not be eligible for benefits. Only the kids.
 
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