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Stoked said:
Yeah I'd love to see the unemployed Americans get off their lazy ass and do the jobs that illegals are doing. You guys act like illegals are stealing high paying career type jobs. No they're in the fields, scrubbing toilets, flipping burgers, laying bricks, pouring concrete etc. laboring jobs that the unemployed americans don't want to do. Our country will see real quick how valuable these undocumented immigrants are without them.
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Correct, they are not stealing the career positions. If illegals were being hired as reporters, bankers and especially lawyers well face it we wouldn't have an illegal immigrant problem now would we?
 
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hog88 said:
Correct, they are not stealing the career positions. If illegals were being hired as reporters, bankers and especially lawyers well face it we wouldn't have an illegal immigrant problem now would we?
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Yeah we would because people losing those jobs would be *****ing about it. If you're getting beat out by illegals in the lower paying laboring jobs, maybe you should be investing in yourself and get an education to get a career. With the exception of the illegals working construction and contracting jobs, but still if they are better workers it shouldn't matter right? Republicans constantly preach that the government shouldn't have the right on who a company or business hires and what they should pay them. Why is this any different?
 
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Stoked said:
Yeah I'd love to see the unemployed Americans get off their lazy ass and do the jobs that illegals are doing. You guys act like illegals are stealing high paying career type jobs. No they're in the fields, scrubbing toilets, flipping burgers, laying bricks, pouring concrete etc. laboring jobs that the unemployed americans don't want to do. Our country will see real quick how valuable these undocumented immigrants are without them.
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"Undocumented immigrants" lol

But you are correct in the fact they are doing jobs Americans don't want to do. And furthermore, have been conditioned to think they are better than doing. But how do you change that paradigm?
 
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A 2016 Foreign Policy Report Card | The American Conservative
 
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Stoked said:
Yeah we would because people losing those jobs would be *****ing about it. If you're getting beat out by illegals in the lower paying laboring jobs, maybe you should be investing in yourself and get an education to get a career. With the exception of the illegals working construction and contracting jobs, but still if they are better workers it shouldn't matter right? Republicans constantly preach that the government shouldn't have the right on who a company or business hires and what they should pay them. Why is this any different?
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If lawyers, bankers and reporters were losing their jobs to illegal immigrants they the lawyers who run congress would be taking action to stop the flow. Reporters would be crying about the problem on every news channel and the bankers would be shoveling money to the lobbyist to get it stopped.

It is different because they are here ILLEGALLY! How is that so hard for you to ****ing understand?
 
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Grand Vol said:
"Undocumented immigrants" lol

But you are correct in the fact they are doing jobs Americans don't want to do. And furthermore, have been conditioned to think they are better than doing. But how do you change that paradigm?
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hog88 said:
Well to aid in getting Americans interested in working and not being on the dole we make a couple changes in the social safety net. We eliminate the federal minimum wage, turn that over to the states and modify the time allowed and qualifications to receive assistance. We send the message to all able bodied and mind people that you work or starve. Illegal immigration solved.
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Stoked said:
Yeah I'd love to see the unemployed Americans get off their lazy ass and do the jobs that illegals are doing. You guys act like illegals are stealing high paying career type jobs. No they're in the fields, scrubbing toilets, flipping burgers, laying bricks, pouring concrete etc. laboring jobs that the unemployed americans don't want to do. Our country will see real quick how valuable these undocumented immigrants are without them.
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A sad indictment, this point resonates regardless of one's political views
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
And in today's news: Judge Sullivan met with a mysterious tractor trailer accident which completely decapitated him and mashed his still writhing corpse into the muddy hillside where he happened to be playing with his dog. The tractor trailer rig was more than 75 feet from the nearest road. The driver was nowhere to be found. The police are looking for the owner of the rig with Arkansas plates KAN-KLZ. The dog was also killed.
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Not bad, conspiracy theorist
 
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Sanders is an isolationist and it's clear the American Conservative website favours that approach. I think effective leadership on foreign policy is a mixture between being a hawk and diplomat. Rubio is probably too much of a hawk, but his ambitions will be tempered if he puts together a good staff.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Kinda like you and a Saudi Prince views on our politics
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Clearly you haven't studied international relations. It's important how the world view your country and POTUS, especially when you're the only global superpower. In the grand scheme of things no poster on here matters.

Also another point on that grading system, Hillary gets a C on Iraq but Trump gets a D on Libya - yet they did exactly the same thing. Originally support the war and then go back on that belief. It's clearly being graded on a curve.
 
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alexmanu said:
Sanders is an isolationist and it's clear the American Conservative website favours that approach. I think effective leadership on foreign policy is a mixture between being a hawk and diplomat. Rubio is probably too much of a hawk, but his ambitions will be tempered if he puts together a good staff.
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Weird that small government conservatives would prefer the small government approach?

It's not about isolationism, it's about non-interventionism.
 
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alexmanu said:
Clearly you haven't studied international relations. It's important how the world view your country and POTUS, especially when you're the only global superpower. In the grand scheme of things no poster on here matters.

Also another point on that grading system, Hillary gets a C on Iraq but Trump gets a D on Libya - yet they did exactly the same thing. Originally support the war and then go back on that belief. It's clearly being graded on a curve.
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Iraq and Libya are different. For example, we were lied to about reasons for going into Iraq. I don't believe we were lied to about Libya, were we?

Also, in 2011 Trump had the Iraq and Afghanistan boondoggles to learn from, and he still supported involvement. It was less clear in 2003 what a boondoggle the ME is.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Iraq and Libya are different. For example, we were lied to about reasons for going into Iraq. I don't believe we were lied to about Libya, were we?

Also, in 2011 Trump had the Iraq and Afghanistan boondoggles to learn from, and he still supported involvement. It was less clear in 2003 what a boondoggle the ME is.
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Did Obama and Hillary open their mouths?
 
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