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Obsessed said:
Gamble to take the win later?

Better than not winning at all.

You don't have any freaking clue about the clintons. Nothing.
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Hillary raised a shiiteload of cash as SOS for the Clinton Foundation, The donors weren't giving her money because they liked her..
 

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volinbham said:
Trump will implode when his past positions are exposed.

Paul unlikely.

Kasich is the dark horse with best chance.

Heard talk today that folks like Romney, Gore, Biden and others are still not officially off the board.

If Kasich makes the top 10 in time for the first debate he may gain traction.

Clinton is becoming a flawed candidate and the party is probably scrambling for a Plan B
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If Al Gore decides to run, he locks up the Dem nomination. I don't think he will, though.
 
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Gramps said:
Gore's day has has come and gone, imo.
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Certainly could be true. While I think global warming is a huge issue, my fear would be his campaign wouldn't be well rounded enough on the other issues.

I think the average democrat/independent likes Al Gore, though. Which I think would be enough to get the nomination, if he wanted it. I just don't think he wants to take the spotlight away from Hillary.
 
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Its about 15 months until the election and you've got the GOP contenders calling each other "jackass" and "idiot," and you've got one of them calling the Senate majority leader, from his own party, a liar on the floor of the Senate.

Things are so toxic right now in the GOP that I think pretty much any centrist Dem can win the general almost by default.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its about 15 months until the election and you've got the GOP contenders calling each other "jackass" and "idiot," and you've got one of them calling the Senate majority leader, from his own party, a liar on the floor of the Senate.

Things are so toxic right now in the GOP that I think pretty much any centrist Dem can win the general almost by default.
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You've seen Hillary's trajectory right?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its about 15 months until the election and you've got the GOP contenders calling each other "jackass" and "idiot," and you've got one of them calling the Senate majority leader, from his own party, a liar on the floor of the Senate.

Things are so toxic right now in the GOP that I think pretty much any centrist Dem can win the general almost by default.
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I think you are forgetting one key thing. Women don't like being told what to do by other women. This will lose Hillary the election. :p
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its about 15 months until the election and you've got the GOP contenders calling each other "jackass" and "idiot," and you've got one of them calling the Senate majority leader, from his own party, a liar on the floor of the Senate.

Things are so toxic right now in the GOP that I think pretty much any centrist Dem can win the general almost by default.
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If and it appears they are, hand Hillary the nomination the Dems are handing the GOP the general on a silver platter unless the GOP nominate one of the extremist.
 
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lawgator1 said:
How about Huckabee's comment the Obama is leading Israel "to the ovens."

That's probably the single most obnoxious comment I've ever read, from a POTUS contender.
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Huckabee: "He's so naive he would trust the Iranians and he would take the Israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven". Debbie Wasserman Schultz said that was "grossly irresponsible" and called on Huckabee to apologize. I think Debbie, in what she says at times, is really gross too. I call for her to apologize for some of her stupid comments that she's made in the past.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Huckabee: "He's so naive he would trust the Iranians and he would take the Israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven". Debbie Wasserman Schultz said that was "grossly irresponsible" and called on Huckabee to apologize. I think Debbie, in what she says at times, is really gross too. I call for her to apologize for some of her stupid comments that she's made in the past.
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DWS has room to talk

Republican Gov. Scott Walker's record on issues relating to women amounts to what is essentially domestic violence, Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz argued Wednesday during a roundtable discussion in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

"Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand," the Florida congresswoman said during her visit to the governor's home state. "I know that is stark. I know that is direct. But it is a reality."
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volinbham said:
You've seen Hillary's trajectory right?
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I think even she could beat the GOP nominee, at this point.

In fact, she leads Bush by 4.6 points, Walker by 9, Rubio by 7.6, Paul by 4.4, Trump by 16.2, and Cruz by 8.5. (RCP poll averages).

And this is when she has been putting on really no affirmative campaign as of yet, just raising money and biding her time. No ads or anything yet. And this is despite all the email stuff.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think even she could beat the GOP nominee, at this point.

In fact, she leads Bush by 4.6 points, Walker by 9, Rubio by 7.6, Paul by 4.4, Trump by 16.2, and Cruz by 8.5. (RCP poll averages).

And this is when she has been putting on really no affirmative campaign as of yet, just raising money and biding her time. No ads or anything yet. And this is despite all the email stuff.
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The only polls that matter are the polls in 6-8 states. The outcome on the other states has been determined before we have nominees unless something drastic happens.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think even she could beat the GOP nominee, at this point.

In fact, she leads Bush by 4.6 points, Walker by 9, Rubio by 7.6, Paul by 4.4, Trump by 16.2, and Cruz by 8.5. (RCP poll averages).

And this is when she has been putting on really no affirmative campaign as of yet, just raising money and biding her time. No ads or anything yet. And this is despite all the email stuff.
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Swing state problems. She has 100% name recognition so ads won't have a massive bounce. The more she talks to the press, the more problems she creates for herself.

She's faced zero adversity in the election and is tanking.

Her negatives are crazy bad.

Sure she can still win but she's been on a steady slide down, more so than anyone predicted.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its about 15 months until the election and you've got the GOP contenders calling each other "jackass" and "idiot," and you've got one of them calling the Senate majority leader, from his own party, a liar on the floor of the Senate.

Things are so toxic right now in the GOP that I think pretty much any centrist Dem can win the general almost by default.
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:lolabove: no such thing
 
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volinbham said:
Swing state problems. She has 100% name recognition so ads won't have a massive bounce. The more she talks to the press, the more problems she creates for herself.

She's faced zero adversity in the election and is tanking.

Her negatives are crazy bad.

Sure she can still win but she's been on a steady slide down, more so than anyone predicted.
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The email thing is hurting her, I agree. That was just dumb on her part.
 
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