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How is it penalizing them to tax them the same as if they made the money washing cars?

And we aren't talking any institutional investors here. Just the get rich quick folks.

I disagree.. Suppose a company bought another and they paid a premium which happens all the time.. If you want to cash in you are subject to a pinch in the plan.. I think this also a pure money play due to electronic trading and computer modeling that trigger selling.

Also, many individual investors put in sell triggers up or down when certain marks are hit...
 
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All this stupid proposal does is to make the long term capital gains treatment holding period threshold 6 years instead of the current 1 year. Add in some sliding rates between years 6 and 1 and that's it...nothing else. Dumb. Would just lock up more liquidity because investors would respond with a decrease in transactions. Fail...now onto the next stupid democrat divisive proposal.
 
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How is it penalizing them to tax them the same as if they made the money washing cars?

And we aren't talking any institutional investors here. Just the get rich quick folks.

Or lower the taxes for car washers. Not sure the significance of that connection anyway....
 
I disagree.. Suppose a company bought another and they paid a premium which happens all the time.. If you want to cash in you are subject to a pinch in the plan.. I think this also a pure money play due to electronic trading and computer modeling that trigger selling.

Also, many individual investors put in sell triggers up or down when certain marks are hit...


I am unaware of many substantial corporate mergers where the acquired corporation is sold again in less than one year.
 
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Or lower the taxes for car washers. Not sure the significance of that connection anyway....


The political logic behind the tax break for capital gains was that it encouraged investment, which would grow the economy. It started in the 20's and 30's.

But a significant portion of the amount invested every day in equities in this country can no longer reasonably be traced to expanding capacity or driving any economic growth (beyond the transaction costs of the investment industry).

Some reform is needed to distinguish between capital gains that plausibly support the economy, and those that, while perhaps rewarding to a short term investor, are ultimately at least not a contributor, and probably just a weight on industry.

I'm not saying you can't be a short term investor. Of course you can. Go buy that guy's system with the red lights and green lights,time your trades during the day or the week, and churn your account.

All I'm saying is that, on income realized from that, you pay tax on it as thought you made the income doing anything else. There is nothing special about it.
 
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The political logic behind the tax break for capital gains was that it encouraged investment, which would grow the economy. It started in the 20's and 30's.

But a significant portion of the amount invested every day in equities in this country can no longer reasonably be traced to expanding capacity or driving any economic growth (beyond the transaction costs of the investment industry).

Some reform is needed to distinguish between capital gains that plausibly support the economy, and those that, while perhaps rewarding to a short term investor, are ultimately at least not a contributor, and probably just a weight on industry.

I'm not saying you can't be a short term investor. Of course you can. Go buy that guy's system with the red lights and green lights,time your trades during the day or the week, and churn your account.

All I'm saying is that, on income realized from that, you pay tax on it as thought you made the income doing anything else. There is nothing special about it.

Day/Swing trading is already taxed at ordinary rates because it is short term.
 
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I am unaware of many substantial corporate mergers where the acquired corporation is sold again in less than one year.

I was referring to an individual investor that may have bought certain stock within the 1 year time frame that she is proposing and then is bought for a premium. Under that deal.. you pay 39.6% if you wanted to get out.. Which many people do.. Sell on the news of a deal
 
The Republican presidential debate will take place in less than two weeks, and the only candidate standing on that stage, that has NEVER supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens, will be Ted Cruz.
 
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The Republican presidential debate will take place in less than two weeks, and the only candidate standing on that stage, that has NEVER supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens, will be Ted Cruz.

Cruz has less of a chance to win the WH than Bernie Sanders does.
 
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Keep in mind that it is early in the process and Cruz has raised a lot of money. Anything can happen.

If the Preibus republicans nominate another McCain or Romney type candidate, Hillary is assured of being elected. That will be three consecutive "moderate" republican defeats.
 
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Keep in mind that it is early in the process and Cruz has raised a lot of money. Anything can happen.

If the Preibus republicans nominate another McCain or Romney type candidate, Hillary is assured of being elected. That will be three consecutive "moderate" republican defeats.


When has there been a "true conservative" victory?
 
Day/Swing trading is already taxed at ordinary rates because it is short term.

Thank You. I'm sitting here reading that thinking "does he have a clue"?

She wants to double the time for what is considered "short term" from a year to 2 years
 
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Capitalism versus wealth redistribution that's that's the example here. Nobody's ****ing perfect including your pal Obama . Let's let this thing play out, at least the man's out there bringing up issues that need to be dealt with. I'm sure you could find fault in all the GOP candidates.

VSF isn't liberal. Why does anyone who doesn't wholly subscribe to the GOP a liberal on here? I really don't understand. Those types of assertions really do dumb down the level of discourse this place had at one point.

Just saying.
 
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