2016 Election Thread Part Deux

#201
#201
If for whatever reason Bernie catches up and surpasses Hillary in voted delegates (not super delegates), I can't see the party still picking Hillary. The repercussions would be similar to the republican establishment choosing someone other than trump despite him getting the majority of the votes.
 
#204
#204
Ugh I guess I'll mosey on over to the country club and toss in a meaningless vote. Being a Republican is tough.
 
#205
#205
Franklin Pierce said:
The word Jupiter does not appear in any of the Tweets.
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Here ya go, Jimmy,

Reports: Trump Left Off Some Florida Ballots; "Dozens of Complaints" - The Gateway Pundit

Leading Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s name was left off Florida primary ballots according to reports relayed by Fox News’ Jennifer Eckhart on Twitter who said the local Fox affiliate has received “dozens of complaints.”

Eckhart wrote the irregularities are in “Jupiter County” which does not exist. She probably meant the town of Jupiter or Palm Beach County where Jupiter is located. Palm Beach County is where Trump’s Florida base Mar-a-Lago is located.
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#208
#208
Huh, well, its hard to figure how they'd have missed that, and of course his supporters would certainly catch that mistake. It has the ring of people not understanding what they are doing, or having some sort of mistake on which ballot they wanted.

Not that it will matter. Its winner take all and Trump is likely to win Florida easily, based on the polls.

It comes down to Ohio. If Kasich wins Ohio and Rubio is out after losing Florida, all of the establishment money is going to come flooding in to Kasich. He'll be swimming in campaign cash designed to thwart Trump from getting over the mark. Just get to a second vote on the floor and all hell breaks loose.
 
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#209
#209
jvol1 said:
Voting for someone because they're an outsider alone doesn't make much sense, that's a qualitative attribute. All that should matter is their policies, and I'm not sure that Trump's have broad appeal or would be effective.

When it comes to national elections, I tend to question labels like outsider. Is it really possible for a "true" outsider to make any headway in a national election? Or to put it another way, I think Trump has been branded as an "outsider" by the media more than that actually being an outsider. Probably he has the complete support of the Republicans and has for a long while.
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When politicians sell "policy" during campaigns and then don't follow through, I can't see that the policy argument makes a bit of difference. The Republicans have majorities now, ran on platforms to put a stop to Obama's programs and end runs, and have run away from those pledges. They have all really just done what it takes to enrich and empower themselves.

The most pressing need is campaign and lobbying reform - when was the last time you saw anything on that front. The bribe is in the campaign contribution and the payoff is in the legislation - that's a crime anywhere else. When an ex-legislator is arrested for paying bribes, and the first question is "What did he do...?" and not "Where did he get millions to pay in bribes?" that's very telling and very disturbing of our acceptance of fraud in government - particularly elected representatives.

No, Trump doesn't have the support of the Republicans because they have absolutely no faith that he will toe the party line. He isn't a career politician who needs to play the game to continue the game - that makes him different and impossible for the party to control. Trustworthy, competent, etc - who knows; but at least not the same lying pieces of crap we've been electing.
 
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AM64 said:
When politicians sell "policy" during campaigns and then don't follow through, I can't see that the policy argument makes a bit of difference. The Republicans have majorities now, ran on platforms to put a stop to Obama's programs and end runs, and have run away from those pledges. They have all really just done what it takes to enrich and empower themselves.

The most pressing need is campaign and lobbying reform - when was the last time you saw anything on that front. The bribe is in the campaign contribution and the payoff is in the legislation - that's a crime anywhere else. When an ex-legislator is arrested for paying bribes, and the first question is "What did he do...?" and not "Where did he get millions to pay in bribes?" that's very telling and very disturbing of our acceptance of fraud in government - particularly elected representatives.

No, Trump doesn't have the support of the Republicans because they have absolutely no faith that he will toe the party line. He isn't a career politician who needs to play the game to continue the game - that makes him different and impossible for the party to control. Trustworthy, competent, etc - who knows; but at least not the same lying pieces of crap we've been electing.
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If that's supposed to convince someone like me to vote for Trump, it failed. "He's a different kind of asshat." is not a winning campaign slogan.
 
#211
#211
MG1968 said:
He's only hanging around because he energizes young voters. If he were truly serious about winning the nomination over Hillary, his campaign would be screaming about the fact that over 100 FBI agents are investigating Hillary's unsecured email server.
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Remember not that long ago when the young rallying cry was all against old white guys? The politically rabid young seem kinda fickle unless it comes to handouts.
 
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#212
#212
Gramps said:
I'M not sure how the super delegates are even chosen. I just read Hillary had secured the majority of them. They may be able to switch.

I betcha the GOP wish they had them some super delegates about now so they could control who the nominee will be.
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Yeah, real democracy in action.
 
#214
#214
Trump passes obstacle to nomination

The Northern Marianas are a collection of 15 islands in the Pacific Ocean, located at about the focal point of the Pacific Rim. It's a United States territory, 179 square miles of land -- an area smaller than New York City -- that happens to jut out above the surface of the water. And on Tuesday morning, before you even woke up, it made Donald Trump the first man to qualify for the Republican presidential nomination.

See, in the Northern Marianas, Tuesday began 14 hours before it began on the East Coast. So its Super Threesday caucus was done overnight, and Trump won all nine delegates. In doing so, the Northern Marianas became the eighth state or territory in which Trump won a majority of the delegates. (The others: South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Massachusetts, Tennessee, Hawaii and Mississippi.) And according to the rules of the Republican convention, a candidate must "demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination." No eight states, no nomination.
 
#217
#217
VolnJC said:
Trump passes obstacle to nomination

The Northern Marianas are a collection of 15 islands in the Pacific Ocean, located at about the focal point of the Pacific Rim. It's a United States territory, 179 square miles of land -- an area smaller than New York City -- that happens to jut out above the surface of the water. And on Tuesday morning, before you even woke up, it made Donald Trump the first man to qualify for the Republican presidential nomination.

See, in the Northern Marianas, Tuesday began 14 hours before it began on the East Coast. So its Super Threesday caucus was done overnight, and Trump won all nine delegates. In doing so, the Northern Marianas became the eighth state or territory in which Trump won a majority of the delegates. (The others: South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Massachusetts, Tennessee, Hawaii and Mississippi.) And according to the rules of the Republican convention, a candidate must "demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination." No eight states, no nomination.
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That rule will be one of the first things the brass dissolves at a contested convention.
 
#218
#218
America is Great, and if you read posts from worried and concerned people from all over the world, they feel that we are the greatest and don't understand why this insanity is happening.

Please...Anyone but Trump....
 
#219
#219
JCP201 said:
America is Great, and if you read posts from worried and concerned people from all over the world, they feel that we are the greatest and don't understand why this insanity is happening.

Please...Anyone but Trump....
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**** the concerns of the people all over the world..if the GOP establishment would have kept their campaign promises this wouldn't have happened
 
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#220
#220
VolnJC said:
**** the concerns of the people all over the world..if the GOP establishment would have kept their campaign promises this wouldn't have happened
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How about the concerns of the people right here that find this insanity baffling?
 
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#224
JCP201 said:
I'm worried there aren't enough of us in this country to stop it.
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Sometimes you just sit back and watch the train wreck unfold. Or as a old supervisor of mine used to say "I'll give you all the rope you want..."
 
#225
#225
JCP201 said:
I'm worried there aren't enough of us in this country to stop it.
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You're overestimating the amount of delusional Trumpkins in this country. The only thing stopping it from being a Goldwater-esque blowout is Clinton's inherent unlikability.
 
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