2015 NBA Playoff Thread

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BadJerry20 said:
Besides dunking, what attributes do they have that are redundant? Their skill set is pretty opposite. Spacing in on the PG and coach.
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Their biggest strengths are rebounding and finishing at the basket. They are both great in the pick n roll. They both are great on fast breaks.

Jordan is a great rim defender and Griffin is not, so there is that. Griffin thinks he has mid range game but anything more than 10 feet and he misses a whopping 60% of the time. Griffin has some post moves but that doesn't really compliment Jordan IMO.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Their biggest strengths are rebounding and finishing at the basket. They are both great in the pick n roll. They both are great on fast breaks.

Jordan is a great rim defender and Griffin is not, so there is that. Griffin thinks he has mid range game but anything more than 10 feet and he misses a whopping 60% of the time. Griffin has some post moves but that doesn't really compliment Jordan IMO.
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Rebounding? I guess you missed Blake averaging a whopping 7.6 this year. Not that having a PF and C rebound is a bad thing. His passing was more impressive than his rebounding this year. Blake is drifting away from the basket on offense, and is becoming more of a point forward. He shot better from 16-3pt than he did 3-10 this year, Though both were bad. He doesn't post as nearly as much as he should. I'll give you pick n rolls and finishing at the rim, but that's about it. I don't get the fast break part, that's not exactly a bad thing when you have CP3, neither are the 2 mentioned before that. Pairing Tyson Chandler with DJ would be redundant attributes, not a guy that does 2 things like him. Would you prefer a stretch 4 with DJ? Personally I think they are one of the better tandems down low, and work pretty well together.
 
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BG actually is developing into a much better player than I thought he was in the last couple years. Passes well, handles well, and when he's not shooting jumpers he converts in close. I was surprised to see his usage rate was highest on the team, assist rate was 2nd, and turnover % was nearly best of his team. All from a guy a year or two ago I thought would never be more than an athletic dunker. Yes, he doesn't rebound, or create a lot of blocks/steals, but I think he fits well with the Clippers. They don't need a true stretch 4. They just need BG to manage his shooting and play average defense since he has DJ there.
 
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LittleCat said:
BG actually is developing into a much better player than I thought he was in the last couple years. Passes well, handles well, and when he's not shooting jumpers he converts in close. I was surprised to see his usage rate was highest on the team, assist rate was 2nd, and turnover % was nearly best of his team. All from a guy a year or two ago I thought would never be more than an athletic dunker. Yes, he doesn't rebound, or create a lot of blocks/steals, but I think he fits well with the Clippers. They don't need a true stretch 4. They just need BG to manage his shooting and play average defense since he has DJ there.
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I agree. Blake does what DJ can't on offense, and helps free up DJ to get rebounds and put backs. DJ in turn helps any short comings Blake has on D. I don't see them as redundant at all, but pretty good compliments.
 
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Lol I just now saw where Floyd Womanbeater beat Manny in what I'm assuming was a snooze fest. Sucks cause I used to love boxing so much, now I couldn't care less about it. MMA>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing
 
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For anyone who wonders why I accuse the NBA of cheating and rigging games all the time...


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSiIrGXdCxw[/youtube]

So, Spurs get the rebound with 13 seconds left tied 97-97 on a missed Clippers shot. It should be Spurs ball for the final shot to win or overtime. Instead, they call a non-existent foul so Chris Paul can give the Clippers a 2 point lead. The Spurs came back to hit 2 free throws with 8 seconds left to tie it back up. And that's the problem... now the Clippers get the final shot with the game tied when it would have been the Spurs final shot with the game tied had they not called that bogus foul on CP3's miss. The refs blatantly screwed the Spurs on that foul call. Spurs barring a turnover or taking a shot too quickly should have been left with overtime at worst since they would have the final shot and yet they ended up losing in regulation.



Now, back to game 6...

VIDEO: Spurs' turn for controversy with missed Crawford travel - CBSSports.com

Watch the first video in the link. Clippers are up 98-96 while trying to inbound the ball. Spurs smother them on D forcing a bad pass and Crawford ends up traveling while catching the ball because he's smothered by a defender. They didn't call a foul on the defense while catching the ball, only after the defender had to come back and touch him as Crawford finished traveling all over the the place. As they replay the inbound pass, you hear Reggie Miller count "1.. 2... 3" as in how many times Crawford travels. So, the Clippers travel 3 times because of the Spurs D on the inbound pass but instead of giving the Spurs the ball down 2 with 10 seconds on a Clippers turnover, Clippers get 2 free throws to go up by 4. You couldn't even point to Crawford only traveling because he figured he'd be fouled so he was being careless and therefore it's not as big of deal that he traveled. He didn't travel because he was being careless and knew they'd intentionally foul, he traveled because of great D and the refs just ignored it.



So yeah, Spurs got cornholed in games 6 and 7 with the game on the line. You could say they got Donaghyed. I mean, he was the only ref doing it after all so we might as well name rigging games after him. He was so good at it that even the guys on his own officiating crew didn't notice. If that's the case, the NBA wouldn't need to fix games intentionally. The refs are apparently so dumb they'd poorly officiate the game anyways since they already ignored their crew chef making multiple bad calls that are blatantly wrong night after night. Til this day you still have refs getting calls blatantly wrong and sometimes they'll even have replay available while making the wrong call. I understand that human error exists but some of the imaginary calls that are made and some of the blatant non-calls that are let go... there are people who require glasses that could get the call right without even wearing their glasses. I truly believe that because some of the calls are that obvious yet refs still make the wrong call. You're telling me the refs are that inept? Inept to the point that they'll even get reviews incorrect? Not buying it. Some of these calls/non-calls are so bad they've got to be intentional. But, I digress. I only wanted to point out these two games specifically because it stole two chances from the Spurs to win the series while handing two victories to the Clippers.
 
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You realize this will be the first time since 1998 that the Finals won't have Kobe, Duncan, or Wade in in right? But it's fixed, lol.
 
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508mikey said:
good riddance to the Spurs
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The spurs will forever remember that two spurs couldn't deny a injured Paul from hitting the game winner, and Barnes jumping in to deny the alley hoop with Leonard landing on his butt.
Sweet revenge for the clippers as the spurs and spurs fans will forever remember this harrowing failure to the clippers. They got in a street fight and couldn't finish, and like the buffalo bills they find a harrowing way to lose a game.

This amazing game 7 lived up to it's hype.
 
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BadJerry20 said:
Rebounding? I guess you missed Blake averaging a whopping 7.6 this year. Not that having a PF and C rebound is a bad thing.
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That's because he moved away from the basket, trying to be a better compliment to DJ. In 2012 he took half as many mid-range shots as in 2015, and he averaged 11 rebounds per game....that's elite. In this case his attempts to be different than Jordan are making him into a worse player. DJ's getting more minutes the last years also cut into Blake's numbers.

His passing was more impressive than his rebounding this year.
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He is a good passer and in that regard he plays well with DJ.

Blake is drifting away from the basket on offense, and is becoming more of a point forward. He shot better from 16-3pt than he did 3-10 this year, Though both were bad.
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First time he topped 40% from midrange. 40% is terrible. He's bad from 3-10 feet too, I agree. They are redundant cause they are both just good at finishing at the basket.

I don't get the fast break part, that's not exactly a bad thing when you have CP3
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I never said redundancies are necessarily a bad thing. Certain redundancies are great to have. If you can have 4 3-point shooters on the floor, why not? My point is that both guys only do a few things really well, and a lot of those are the same things. If you have 2 big guys that aren't that versatile (I know Blake thinks he is a versatile scorer, but he's not), it's best that they have very different attributes, IMO. Especially when it comes to offense and how they are spaced. Sometimes their skill sets allow them to dominate the paint offensively, but some Ds are successful at just clogging the paint and then they can't do anything. That's what happened in game 5 when Blake missed his last 8 shots. Everything was contested by 2-3 guys.

Would you prefer a stretch 4 with DJ?
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This is exactly what I'm saying. Kevin Love is the best thing that could happen to DJ, and vice versa.
 
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Cavs bulls

A rivalry renewed with the bad blood. Noah is happy to return to Cleveland. No doubt this has to do with getting rid of the bad memories when the bulls got eliminated in the 2009-2010 season to the cavs along with James celebration.
 
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I think I made the same argument about Griffin and Dj a few weeks ago, Huff
 
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GahLee said:
Not it isn't. It's competly dependent on having valuable shooters. Christ.
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One: they have shooters well 2 anyway

Two: my name is Jerry not Christ, but I am close

Three: I was bored and trying to mess with Huff by mentioning the PG, he was smart enough not to take the bait.
 
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I didn't want to quote your whole post Huff. Fair enough we can agree to disagree, otherwise this will go on forever. We just prefer different types of PFs evidently. Though .392-.404=.012 not .002. :)
 
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