2015 NBA Finals Thread

I know nobody will agree probably, but I thought Iggy by far was the most valuable player last night. He was great in the fourth and OT, and the reason GS won. IMO
 
Ah I gotcha. I actually agree, I don't like that you can jump into a guy and get a foul especially when the defender is on the ground.

I think it's fine when you get a guy to totally sell out on the block attempt, because he's totally invading your space. Still drawing the foul on "purpose", but the difference is there would be no contact if you didn't jump into them. It's absurd that they get the call.
 
I think it's fine when you get a guy to totally sell out on the block attempt, because he's totally invading your space. Still drawing the foul on "purpose", but the difference is there would be no contact if you didn't jump into them. It's absurd that they get the call.

Yeah I misunderstood what you were saying earlier. I totally agree 100%.
 
I know nobody will agree probably, but I thought Iggy by far was the most valuable player last night. He was great in the fourth and OT, and the reason GS won. IMO

Espn said Lebron was 2-12 against Iggy. I can see that getting in his head like the 2011 series where he didn't drive at all, and just settles for dumb shots.
Hopefully Kyrie can come back
 
Espn said Lebron was 2-12 against Iggy. I can see that getting in his head like the 2011 series where he didn't drive at all, and just settles for dumb shots.
Hopefully Kyrie can come back

They even gave Lebron a few bunk calls in the post when Iggy was guarding him. AI is one of my favorite players. He just balls. He doesn't care if he's the headliner or the 7th option, he's going to try his best to win the individual battles and be happy because of team success.

That's what years of losing in Philly will do to a mature star.
 
Espn said Lebron was 2-12 against Iggy. I can see that getting in his head like the 2011 series where he didn't drive at all, and just settles for dumb shots.
Hopefully Kyrie can come back

Damn I didn't think he did that well against him.
 
They even gave Lebron a few bunk calls in the post when Iggy was guarding him. AI is one of my favorite players. He just balls. He doesn't care if he's the headliner or the 7th option, he's going to try his best to win the individual battles and be happy because of team success.

That's what years of losing in Philly will do to a mature star.

I'm a huge Iggy fan too, he's the main reason I hope GS wins. Even when he was the man in Philly, he said his favorite thing was to check the other teams best player. I love a guy that's defensive minded. His box score probably won't look that great, but he was pretty awesome last night late in the game.
 
Does anybody know what LBJ did against Barnes? It felt like he only missed 3-4 shots against him.
 
It's an objective statement. He shot below league average TS% last night...

Remind me of what league average player or any player for that matter, is running 75% of his teams offense off of his post ups. Then tell me about the league average defenders that were guarding him.
 
Just a couple thoughts

1) He stunk in overtime but I'm not sure LeBron could have played any better than he did last night. That was a hell of a performance. His jump shot isn't fixed and Iggy played hard as hell but man I don't think they can stop LeBron.

2) If Kyrie is done for the series, the Cavs will get swept. It's a shame too because Kyrie looked really good last night.

3) I don't know why but it's weird how different the Warriors look when Klay hits shots. When he gets going, they just feel unstoppable. Even if Curry is going off.
 
Remind me of what league average player or any player for that matter, is running 75% of his teams offense off of his post ups. Then tell me about the league average defenders that were guarding him.

Those things matter in evaluating his overall play and contribution, but the fact that it wasn't a good shooting night is still a fact.
 
Out of "Top five things that drive me crazy in the NBA" the fact refs NEVER EVER EVER call illegal screens. 90% of screens are moving/illegal and it drives me crazy.
 
I wouldn't mind so much if every single one of them wasn't illegal.

Like I said, watching Stockton videos. Lol

To your #1 in your earlier post. Nobody can stop LBJ, but if Iggy can keep slowing him down late the Cavs are ****ed.
 
Out of "Top five things that drive me crazy in the NBA" the fact refs NEVER EVER EVER call illegal screens. 90% of screens are moving/illegal and it drives me crazy.

Yeah they are. Out of curiosity what are the other 4?
 
Like I said, watching Stockton videos. Lol

To your #1 in your earlier post. Nobody can stop LBJ, but if Iggy can keep slowing him down late the Cavs are ****ed.

They are ****ed anyway if Kyrie can't be what he was in game 1. They are screwed anyway.
 
Yeah they are. Out of curiosity what are the other 4?

In no particular order

Illegal screens never being called
Never calling defensive three seconds
NBA coaches going isolation instead of running a real play late in the game
Players cussing out officials and not getting technicals
The NBA cracking down on any trash talking on the court

And one more, the lack of true offensive post play by NBA big men.
 
Today Cowherd was talking about something Bill Simmons wrote, if the Pistons had the #1 pick the year Lebron came out, instead of #2 and they had taken Lebron, they won the title the next year with Tayshaun Prince at the 3 with 4 other all stars. Do the Pistons win more than one title (yes) and would Lebron be thought of as a better player than he already is? Imagine that team, Billups, Rip, Lebron, Rasheed, Ben Wallace, 5 all stars that year.
 
That's a fun hypothetical. Billups leaves in '05, and Lebron runs point with Prince becoming a starter again.
 
Today Cowherd was talking about something Bill Simmons wrote, if the Pistons had the #1 pick the year Lebron came out, instead of #2 and they had taken Lebron, they won the title the next year with Tayshaun Prince at the 3 with 4 other all stars. Do the Pistons win more than one title (yes) and would Lebron be thought of as a better player than he already is? Imagine that team, Billups, Rip, Lebron, Rasheed, Ben Wallace, 5 all stars that year.

Bill simmons is an idiot

That pick was the grizzlies pick. If it were #1, lebron would have been a grizz.
 

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