'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

[LebanonVolunteer]

I could also see us taking no TEs and maybe one less DB to get down to 21.

But I can't us only signing 20.

To sign 21, 7 more current Vols have to decide to walk away from the program. Could it happen? Maybe. What if only 4 more leave? Holy Crap! What then? lol:

 

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2015

Ferguson
Dobbs
Peterman
Jennings
Smith
Ashford
Page
Williams(maybe)

There may be a couple other WO's I'm forgetting. As I said earlier, if you get to your #3 or #4 during a season, it's usually a lost cause anyway. Play the kids ya got and look forward to next year. If one decides to transfer, maybe the staff then takes another QB. Right now, I would not.

In the SEC, especially at skill positions (qb is one of those in this offense, probably), walk ons are occasional success stories. They aren't depth.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Butch has been telling Gibson since 2013 that he's the #1 QB on our board and that he didn't take a QB because he's waiting for TG. But yeah, Butch may not take Gibson's commitment right now :lol:

Where do you come up with this nonsense? Seriously. You're not a dumb poster by any means but you sure know how to make up some BS in between your ears imo.

I have no doubt Butch tells these kids a lot of things. I'd bet there was recently an OG and a DT who thought they knew where they stood with CBJ and UT. They were wrong. Will it bother me if UT takes TG? It won't. I'm a UT fan and will support any kid who suits up in Orange. Would I take a chance on missing out on a Jones, Lewis, Sapp, or Phillips to sign him? No. I don't make those calls though.

 

[PassedOutAwake]

Im thinking Lovingood is a GS. The 2 LSs we already have are JRs. If he doesnt GS, that means we will have 3 LSs and 2 will be on scholarship.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

In the SEC, especially at skill positions (qb is one of those in this offense, probably), walk ons are occasional success stories. They aren't depth.

All I am saying is once your down to #3,4,5, it usually does not matter any more. Scholarship or walk-on in the SEC your getting beat up. It's not like the kid who is #3 or 4 on the depth chart sees much action anyway during the year.

I have mentioned this before. What happens when you take Jennings and Gibson both and it actually turns off the 2016 kids and you don't sign one. Then toward the end of the 2015 season or in camp the next spring both are moved to S and or WR? Now you have some QB concerns.

 

[JacketVol]

Even if 20 is the number, 2 qbs is only 10% of the class. Seems reasonable for a school that hasn't had an all conference qb emerge.

Have to take more than one qb over a two year span. Got to take two after 0 last year or you get in the crapper like Dools got us with the line.

 

[Vol8188]

Im thinking Lovingood is a GS. The 2 LSs we already have are JRs. If he doesnt GS, that means we will have 3 LSs and 2 will be on scholarship.

That's hardcore.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Im thinking Lovingood is a GS. The 2 LSs we already have are JRs. If he doesnt GS, that means we will have 3 LSs and 2 will be on scholarship.

Risky IMO. Have to be careful or you have another OU/Horky situation play out.

Everyone was all for Dews last year. Now that he waited as UT asked him to do you have 1/2 the folks on this board ready to cut him loose to make room. Waiting with nothing to assure your spot is risking in this day and age of recruiting IMO.

 

[eazyTD]

I have no doubt Butch tells these kids a lot of things. I'd bet there was recently an OG and a DT who thought they knew where they stood with CBJ and UT. They were wrong. Will it bother me if UT takes TG? It won't. I'm a UT fan and will support any kid who suits up in Orange. Would I take a chance on missing out on a Jones, Lewis, Sapp, or Phillips to sign him? No. I don't make those calls though.

I'll assume I'm out on a pretty big limb when I say that I imagine CBJ is after Gibson a hell of a lot harder than he was after Sterling Johnson.

Butch is smarter than what you assume. He won't paint himself into a corner where it becomes a Gibson vs. Phillips or Gibson vs. Sapp decision. After the class he pulled last year you should give that man a little more credit than that.

 

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All I am saying is once your down to #3,4,5, it usually does not matter any more. Scholarship or walk-on in the SEC your getting beat up. It's not like the kid who is #3 or 4 on the depth chart sees much action anyway during the year.

I have mentioned this before. What happens when you take Jennings and Gibson both and it actually turns off the 2016 kids and you don't sign one. Then toward the end of the 2015 season or in camp the next spring both are moved to S and or WR? Now you have some QB concerns.

1. With the actually-SEC-quality roster CBJ is going to build, all is not lost with a QB injury. It ain't Matt Simms or bust anymore. I'm ragging on him to make a point... He was thrown into a no-win situation because the roster wasn't good enough. I respect Simms for his time at Tennessee.

2. If they take both as the future qbs, they have evaluated and have plenty of faith in at least one sticking at QB. Further, winning = elite recruits, regardless of position.

 

[eazyTD]

I have no doubt Butch tells these kids a lot of things. I'd bet there was recently an OG and a DT who thought they knew where they stood with CBJ and UT. They were wrong. Will it bother me if UT takes TG? It won't. I'm a UT fan and will support any kid who suits up in Orange. Would I take a chance on missing out on a Jones, Lewis, Sapp, or Phillips to sign him? No. I don't make those calls though.

I'll assume I'm out on a pretty big limb when I say that I imagine CBJ is after Gibson a hell of a lot harder than he was after Sterling Johnson.

Butch is smarter than what you assume. He won't paint himself into a corner where it becomes a Gibson vs. Phillips or Gibson vs. Sapp decision. After the class he pulled last year you should give that man a little more credit than that.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I'll assume I'm out on a pretty big limb when I say that I imagine CBJ is after Gibson a hell of a lot harder than he was after Sterling Johnson.

Butch is smarter than what you assume. He won't paint himself into a corner where it becomes a Gibson vs. Phillips or Gibson vs. Sapp decision. After the class he pulled last year you should give that man a little more credit than that.

CBJ could very well be ready to take TGs commitment today. He may not. All I am pointing out is just because fans say so(Harrell & Johnson situations), does not make it accurate.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

1. With the actually-SEC-quality roster CBJ is going to build, all is not lost with a QB injury. It ain't Matt Simms or bust anymore. I'm ragging on him to make a point... He was thrown into a no-win situation because the roster wasn't good enough. I respect Simms for his time at Tennessee.

2. If they take both as the future qbs, they have evaluated and have plenty of faith in at least one sticking at QB. Further, winning = elite recruits, regardless of position.

I have felt for a while that ANY QB we got in 2015 was likely to see a lot of bench time. IMO it will be Ferguson and Dobbs for 2015, 2016 and likely 2017. If Austin Kendell or another quality QB in 2016 signs, the QB/QBs taken in 2015 may be recruited over before they ever get a chance. Especially coming in as major project types. Yes, depth is important. If I am just adding depth, I'll take Jennings and use the other spot on a DT or OT IF there is room. IMO the QB in 2016 is much more important than in 2015. JMO

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

CBJ could very well be ready to take TGs commitment today. He may not. All I am pointing out is just because fans say so(Harrell & Johnson situations), does not make it accurate.

He would take TGs commitment right now...accurate

 

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I have felt for a while that ANY QB we got in 2015 was likely to see a lot of bench time. IMO it will be Ferguson and Dobbs for 2015, 2016 and likely 2017. If Austin Kendell or another quality QB in 2016 signs, the QB/QBs taken in 2015 may be recruited over before they ever get a chance. Especially coming in as major project types. Yes, depth is important. If I am just adding depth, I'll take Jennings and use the other spot on a DT or OT IF there is room. IMO the QB in 2016 is much more important than in 2015. JMO

Bird(s) in the hand

 

[eazyTD]

CBJ could very well be ready to take TGs commitment today. He may not. All I am pointing out is just because fans say so(Harrell & Johnson situations), does not make it accurate.

When it came to Harrell and Johnson, us fans knew that there was easily 2 or more prospects at that position that was higher on UT's board. It was common sense.

Do you really, honestly think that there is a Qb higher on CBJ's board than Torrance Gibson? Come on LV, use some common sense and quit constantly playing the doom and gloom devil's advocate for a minute.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I'll assume I'm out on a pretty big limb when I say that I imagine CBJ is after Gibson a hell of a lot harder than he was after Sterling Johnson.

Butch is smarter than what you assume. He won't paint himself into a corner where it becomes a Gibson vs. Phillips or Gibson vs. Sapp decision. After the class he pulled last year you should give that man a little more credit than that.

You would be going out on a limb as there is no way for you to know. That's cool though. I build houses on limbs and stay for weeks at a time. I hear "let it go" so much, I think people give up too easily these days.

I think Butch is very smart. I agree he won't pant himself into a corner. There not being any commitments lately when a lot of fans swore there would be tells me CBJ is well aware of the numbers situation in this class and he has a plan. It may not be quite in line with what some think on here, but I think he has it under control.

CBJ and staff did great with the 2014 class. I have faith they will in 2015 as well.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Bird(s) in the hand

Would I take 2 in 2015 and risk losing out in 2016 if they were sure fire SEC caliber QBs? I would. IMO we are not in that position right now.

 

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Would I take 2 in 2015 and risk losing out in 2016 if they were sure fire SEC caliber QBs? I would. IMO we are not in that position right now.

I think "turn down elite athlete with chance to be great qb for system because of hypothetical 2016 human" is absolutely nutty. If TG is straight up terrible, he plays wr and doesn't affect the 2016 superstar you have us landing. If he's good and progresses, missing on hypothetical 2016 human is irrelevant.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

When it came to Harrell and Johnson, us fans knew that there was easily 2 or more prospects at that position that was higher on UT's board. It was common sense.

Do you really, honestly think that there is a Qb higher on CBJ's board than Torrance Gibson? Come on LV, use some common sense and quit constantly playing the doom and gloom devil's advocate for a minute.

I questioned if Harrell and Johnson were takes before both made their announcements. I was ripped for even thinking something that silly. "LV, you and your numbers are wrong, these studs are takes all day". No problem, I'll roll with my opinions. Well, au and clemson were quality landing spots for each of them.

Maybe my common sense is misleading me a bit. It's telling me that taking 2 QBs who have a 50/50 chance of even playing QB a year from now would be risky in a class of around 20. Lucky for you it's my common sense and does not have to cause you any pain.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I think "turn down elite athlete with chance to be great qb for system because of hypothetical 2016 human" is absolutely nutty. If TG is straight up terrible, he plays wr and doesn't affect the 2016 superstar you have us landing. If he's good and progresses, missing on hypothetical 2016 human is irrelevant.

The problem is IMO he would get a year before a move would be made. The 2016 kids would already be looking elsewhere before Jennings and or Gibson knew their futures be it QB, S, or WR. Remember signing 2 QBs on NSD 2015 has a huge impact THAT DAY on 2016 QBs.

 

[eazyTD]

You would be going out on a limb as there is no way for you to know. That's cool though. I build houses on limbs and stay for weeks at a time. I hear "let it go" so much, I think people give up too easily these days.

I think Butch is very smart. I agree he won't pant himself into a corner. There not being any commitments lately when a lot of fans swore there would be tells me CBJ is well aware of the numbers situation in this class and he has a plan. It may not be quite in line with what some think on here, but I think he has it under control.

CBJ and staff did great with the 2014 class. I have faith they will in 2015 as well.

Everyone knows there isn't unlimited scholarships so therefor CBJ will of course have "a plan". I don't know how you can sit here with a straight face and imagine Gibson isn't a part of CBJ's plan when he is clearly the #1 QB on the board.

But by all means, let's roll the dice on Jennings and a walk-on with no proven superstar QB on campus at this point. I'm sure Butch would tell that 5* QB that he's all in on thanks but no thanks lol.

Then I remember I'm arguing with a guy that questioned whether Preston Williams would be a take at the end of the day and I feel stupid for wasting my time typing this out.

I should probably just stick to posting stupid gifs when it comes to you posting this nonsense.

 

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From Butch's own mouth: "I'm a gas guy, not a brake guy."

Think he's gonna pump the brakes on taking someone he has honed in on to make some 2016 smile? Tell 2016human to come in and win the flipping job + be part of a potential championship team. If scared, Derek Mason needs a QB.

If he's not as high on TG the QB or the athlete as some think, different story. But if he can help our team at either position, Butch is flooring it for him.

 

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The problem is IMO he would get a year before a move would be made. The 2016 kids would already be looking elsewhere before Jennings and or Gibson knew their futures be it QB, S, or WR. Remember signing 2 QBs on NSD 2015 has a huge impact THAT DAY on 2016 QBs.

Butch apparently sold josh malone on catching balls from a QB that redshirted in 2013. Pretty sure he can suggest to a 2016 QB that people can move positions.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Everyone knows there isn't unlimited scholarships so therefor CBJ will of course have "a plan". I don't know how you can sit here with a straight face and imagine Gibson isn't a part of CBJ's plan when he is clearly the #1 QB on the board.

But by all means, let's roll the dice on Jennings and a walk-on with no proven superstar QB on campus at this point. I'm sure Butch would tell that 5* QB that he's all in on thanks but no thanks lol.

Then I remember I'm arguing with a guy that questioned whether Preston Williams would be a take at the end of the day and I feel stupid for wasting my time typing this out.

I should probably just stick to posting stupid gifs when it comes to you posting this nonsense.

"Clearly" in your mind. I can accept that. I just don't have to agree that is actually reality.

The 5* QB I think was reclassified as a 4* ATH. Not a big deal though.

Yeah, I like the idea of Jennings the dual threat QB project and Williams the drop back passing QB walk-on. I'll roll with that in 2015.

I am happy to see Preston shut down his recruitment. Smart move by him IMO.



As for you posting Gifs, sometimes it may be best.