'14 TN WR Josh Malone (UT commit 12/4/13)

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OldVol49vfl said:
With the talent we have CBJ probably did a good coaching job. The fact that our O-Line seemed to not perform to their alleged abilities our running & passing games didn't get much done. The lack of speed in the RB position and on most of the defense didn't help either. When we add the players that's committed and get others like Malone we will soon have a team that will play to Butch's schemes and we will start winning again.
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People said a lot of things about our oline for past 3 years and just assumed they had to be great run blockers. Truth is they never really have been. They have always been great at protecting the quarterback and even then Bray deserves tons of credit for his quick release. I fault nothing to this staff with this oline. They were overhyped as this dominant force when they have always been soft.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
People said a lot of things about our oline for past 3 years and just assumed they had to be great run blockers. Truth is they never really have been. They have always been great at protecting the quarterback and even then Bray deserves tons of credit for his quick release. I fault nothing to this staff with this oline. They were overhyped as this dominant force when they have always been soft.
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I guarantee our "great offensive line" will be referenced in the Kentucky game. It's always a talking point for the announcers no matter how terrible they were the week before.
 
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volssam said:
If FSU hadn't leaked the financial aid stuff we would probably be in a lot better shape right now. Not sure he would have signed them with other schools otherwise.
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I don't really follow the logic to this. It would make the Malone family seem easy to manipulate if it were to another school's advantage to leak info. I doubt that is the case. It would just be to Tenn's advantage to show some signs of life in the passing game right now.
 
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kmkemp11 said:
That's not what I said. I said that showing positive evidence doesn't prove anything without looking at the counter-examples as well.



The problem here is that we're limiting our sample size to the SEC. A successful coach doesn't always take a job at a bigger school and succeed. Otherwise, we would be hiring high school coaches that haven't lost games in 3 or 4 years since they would be "sure things" by that logic.



No, I'm saying that the quality of coach he faces in the SEC is higher than at his previous gigs.



I've read the same analysis. For his career (before this season), he had won 0.67 games more per season than expected based on talent.

ref: 2013 College Football Matrix Pre-Season Coach Effect Rankings and Metrics

That's good, but those numbers are slanted towards teams that don't have top talent since it would be hard to win more games than you were expected to if you were expected to win 9 or 10 already. It's a lot easier when they expect you'll win 6 or 7. And even then, his number isn't super impressive.



It does seem to be the only recipe that works out. But it doesn't always work out. I'm hopeful that Butch is our man. There are plenty of positive vibes, but it comes down to this: you have to be a great recruiter and a great coach (or at least hire great coordinators) to win national championships. He definitely looks the part as a recruiter, but the coaching is still a big question mark. We have two coordinators that still have a lot to prove and so far their resume has 1 upset (South Carolina) and 1 bad loss (Vanderbilt), and a lot of blowouts against the best teams. Not exactly confidence inspiring from a coaching perspective.
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1. Evidence isn't evidence unless there's counter-evidence? I gave 4 of the best examples I could. Here's another one... Bobby Petrino. Waiting on your "counter-examples"....

2. The entire debate is predicated on the SEC. It's ONLY about the SEC and whether or not a successful coach from a lesser conference can be predicted to have success in the SEC based on his prior success. My original post to another poster, the one you responded to, was aimed at his assertion that his system in those other leagues won't work here, with the "big boys" in the SEC. That's why the sample size is only based on SEC coaches...

3. And I'm saying those "quality coaches" he now faces in the SEC were once coaches in similar or exact conferences from whence he came. Based on his prior success in the MAC and Big East he can have success in the SEC once he gets the SEC caliber athletes he needs similar to the ones those coaches already have. His career prior to UT has pretty much mimicked the careers of Meyer, Saban, Spurrier, Miles.... successful, winning programs at non-power conferences.

4. 2010 at Cincy- predicted to win 4, won 4
2011 at Cincy- predicted to win 6, won 10
2012 at Cincy- predicted to win 7, won 9 ( team actually won 10, but he wasn't there for 10th win in bowl gm)
At no point was he expected to win more than 7 gms given the talent he had vs the talent of the teams he played.

5. Don't disagree with anything you said in the last paragraph.

Hope that again clarifies my position. Now back to Josh Malone.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
I can't wait to see Josh and Marquez catching TDs from Riley the next few years with Jalen Hurd running over LBs in between said TD passes.

Then we will kick it off to teams and have them face a DLine with Hendrix and Vereen flying off the edges. Dillon Bates will be patrolling the middle of the field with a secondary filled with studs like Gaulden, Kelly Jr, Berry, Sutton, ect blanketing opposing WRS on the back end.

How sweet does that sound??
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Riley who??
You mean Dobbs RIGHT….
 
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dschult2 said:
I'm excited to see the qb competition this spring. My only concern is trying to get first team reps for 4 qbs may be counterproductive.
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Agreed. I wonder if they might consider some split squad practices to maximize reps and make the most out of the 20hrs allowed

There won't be a clear cut number 1 offense in the spring so split squad might be an alternative
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
Ferguson was ahead of Dobbs on the depth chart, but due to injury, he never made it in the game
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Deerpark (one of the few people in the know) said this wasn't the case, and that Dobbs was the guy all along.

Dobbs didn't travel to UF because he playing the role of Driskel that week and didn't practice the gameplan like Ferguson had.

TIFIW
 
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Hubbs and Fortenberry said Ferguson was ahead of Dobbs. They continue to say he's the best passer on campus.
 
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LotteryPick said:
Deerpark (one of the few people in the know) said this wasn't the case, and that Dobbs was the guy all along.

Dobbs didn't travel to UF because he playing the role of Driskel that week and didn't practice the gameplan like Ferguson had.

TIFIW
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i was just going off of what Hubbs and Fortenberry had stated early on in the season/late summer
 
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LotteryPick said:
Deerpark (one of the few people in the know) said this wasn't the case, and that Dobbs was the guy all along.

Dobbs didn't travel to UF because he playing the role of Driskel that week and didn't practice the gameplan like Ferguson had.

TIFIW
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Deerpark also claims that we won't switch from Adidas while the VQ says there is serious momentum behind it.

I don't think Deerpark knows much about the inner workings of the AD or football team but boy does he get mad if you say something negative about Adidas. Probably because he is the Adidas rep for Tennessee
 
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jdavis675 said:
Deerpark also claims that we won't switch from Adidas while the VQ says there is serious momentum behind it.

I don't think Deerpark knows much about the inner workings of the AD or football team but boy does he get mad if you say something negative about Adidas. Probably because he is the Adidas rep for Tennessee
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IMO deer is a sports information guy for one of the lesser sports but I agree he is wrong here
 
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jdavis675 said:
Deerpark also claims that we won't switch from Adidas while the VQ says there is serious momentum behind it.

I don't think Deerpark knows much about the inner workings of the AD or football team but boy does he get mad if you say something negative about Adidas. Probably because he is the Adidas rep for Tennessee
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That would definitely make sense. He typically knows his stuff, so that's why I found it interesting.
 
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