'10 FL LB Jeff Luc

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Jaytrain5 said:
I think Maryland would be a good gig for Strong.

Who knows how it'll shake out...but, he'll get his chance to be a head coach.
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I thought that Maryland was won of the programs that had the "Named Head Coaching Successor" like Texas and Florida State.
 
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therickbol said:
Yes, I agree they want Hicks the most. But I do not think they are at the point where they feel like they have Shirley 'in the bag' and haves stopped pushing for Luc. I feel like they are still recruiting him very hard.
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They maybe, but one has to wonder at this point that if Florida was really that much in play, then why hasn't he pulled the trigger?? I think it's because he doesn't want to play for one season for Strong and then Strong leaves, IMO. I don't necessarily know what Luc will do, but I like our chances right now.
 
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VolDC said:
I thought that Maryland was won of the programs that had the "Named Head Coaching Successor" like Texas and Florida State.
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It does. But that doesn't prevent them from moving in another direction.

I think they'll end up naming Franklin the head, but they could pass him over. His buyout is $1 mill, I believe.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
They maybe, but one has to wonder at this point that if Florida was really that much in play, then why hasn't he pulled the trigger?? I think it's because he doesn't want to play for one season for Strong and then Strong leaves, IMO. I don't necessarily know what Luc will do, but I like our chances right now.
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You must've forgotten. He has silently committed to UF 3 or 4 different times...

And I think Illinois would be a great job for strong. If you can lock down that state in recruiting, you will get a ton of talent...
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
The vast majority of boosters care more about winning than taking a stance on interracial marriage.
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I don't necessarily disagree with you, and that is particularly the case up north. And you are right that if Strong or Turner Gill did win then it would quickly go away, but I do think it plays a factor in regards to getting hired, especially for an SEC school.

I think many influential boosters in the south (a.k.a. old white rich men) if put in a position to hire a good position coach who is white or a good position coach who is black and married to a white woman, that they will side in favor of the white guy. I'm not trying to start a race debate or anything, but I think that is just how it is... You are right, AD's don't give two Sh&^s about it as long as the coach wins, etc., but I think the fact that Dan Mullen got an SEC gig without any prior HC experience and Charlie Strong hasn't been strongly considered for any HC job reveals something - and it has more to do than the fact that he lacks something on his resume.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Speaking of Mosley, what is the latest on him? Is he still trying to get into Tennessee?
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probably not. He missed the fall 09 registration date and thus would not be able to play for us until fall 2011 I think.... Don't think we have another Gerald Williams here....
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
The vast majority of boosters care more about winning than taking a stance on interracial marriage.
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I agree with you on this..As bad as I hate saying it I believe Strong said the things he did about his marriage being an issue to kind of corner the next school he interviews with...When in reality it may have hurt him more because some schools do not want to put up with that kind of attitude and hire a coach with a chip on his shoulder....He's going to be a good head coach somewhere but he needs to let his skills do the talking and not bring up the race card when he gets turned down....Boosters want a winning program, They don't care who your married to.
 
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WPAINE said:
I don't necessarily disagree with you, and that is particularly the case up north. And you are right that if Strong or Turner Gill did win then it would quickly go away, but I do think it plays a factor in regards to getting hired, especially for an SEC school.

I think many influential boosters in the south (a.k.a. old white rich men) if put in a position to hire a good position coach who is white or a good position coach who is black and married to a white woman, that they will side in favor of the white guy. I'm not trying to start a race debate or anything, but I think that is just how it is... You are right, AD's don't give two Sh&^s about it as long as the coach wins, etc., but I think the fact that Dan Mullen got an SEC gig without any prior HC experience and Charlie Strong hasn't been strongly considered for any HC job reveals something - and it has more to do than the fact that he lacks something on his resume.
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Comments like this always make me laugh... In any event, I won't take the bait.

Back to Luc - I've read through the thread, but can someone summarize what the speculation on him is up to this point? I know there's debate about him being a UT lean. But, is this purely recruiting savvy by our boys in orange, or because he's apparently dropped some appeal? Is it lack of upside because of his current build, or a particular performance that caused him to drop a star?

Just curious as to whether or not there has been anything definitive on this, or if everyone is just postulating.
 
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zidanefan said:
everyone is just postulating.
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This, nobody knows anything. Recruiting ebbs and flows and to buy into anything posted on here is setting yourself up for a let down. Countless meltdowns happen on here after a considered lean does the opposite.
 
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WPAINE said:
I think many influential boosters in the south (a.k.a. old white rich men) if put in a position to hire a good position coach who is white or a good position coach who is black and married to a white woman, that they will side in favor of the white guy. I'm not trying to start a race debate or anything, but I think that is just how it is... You are right, AD's don't give two Sh&^s about it as long as the coach wins, etc., but I think the fact that Dan Mullen got an SEC gig without any prior HC experience and Charlie Strong hasn't been strongly considered for any HC job reveals something - and it has more to do than the fact that he lacks something on his resume.
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Charlie Strong being married to a white woman has impacted him negatively by his own admission in recruiting black athletes whose moms are upset by his marriage. That is the part that is rarely discussed. Much easier to blame the old white boosters. I wonder how many on here have multiracial families like I do or have personally felt the discrimination that comes from lots more than the white community to interracial relationships.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Charlie Strong being married to a white woman has impacted him negatively by his own admission in recruiting black athletes whose moms are upset by his marriage. That is the part that is rarely discussed. Much easier to blame the old white boosters. I wonder how many on here have multiracial families like I do or have personally felt the discrimination that comes from lots more than the white community to interracial relationships.
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very valid point, but these moms have no say in hiring him to be a head coach.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Charlie Strong being married to a white woman has impacted him negatively by his own admission in recruiting black athletes whose moms are upset by his marriage. That is the part that is rarely discussed. Much easier to blame the old white boosters. I wonder how many on here have multiracial families like I do or have personally felt the discrimination that comes from lots more than the white community to interracial relationships.
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Brandon Spikes mom or any of the other 5 star recruits' moms, don't give a da*n about what color Charlie Strong's wife is.
 
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