'10 CA QB Jesse Scroggins (USC Solid Verbal)

Which school will Scroggins verbally commit to tomorrow?

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#3,927
#3,927
utmba93 said:
I'm not sure, but I have been looking for the thread that speaks of the "one" who can and will play QB for the next UT football national championship team.

Can you advice me on how to find that thread with the "advanced search" functions the board offers?
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Unfortunately "The One" returns no results as the words are too short. I wish someone with Rivals/Scout access would fill us in on this guy, he sounds amazing.
 
#3,928
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GoVols2003 said:
I would agree with you Sab. I would love for Hubbs to be right and do not discredit him at all, but he seems to be one of the only ones that I have seen who is going against the grain here. Too many people seem to have USC in the mix for them not to really be (as well as JS own comments).

But hey, maybe Hubbs knows something we all do not and is holding on to it.
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If you notice, Jesse seems to say what he thinks people want to hear. Coming off his UF visit? Check. Knoxville camp? Check. USC camp? Check.
So, it's anyone's guess for sure
 
#3,929
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ShanMan said:
IMO, no way Stephens transfers.
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I would never have guessed Coleman would either. I figured he was likely going to be the starter at some point. Nothing about Stephens points to him being starter material...so, like Crompton, he'd have to really bust out of his shell to be a starter next fall, IMO. And again, seems to be abundant evidence that CLK REALLY wants to get that bitter Raider taste out of his mouth by getting HIS players on the field ASAP. He was burned at Oakland by an owner picking players he didn't want, and forcing him to keep coaches he didn't want. Kiffin DOES NOT want to get burned like that again.
I honestly believe that was just one reason why he let Boyd go. He has an intense desire to do things HIS way and make HIS choices. Starting Fulmer's QB recruit for 4yrs probably didn't sit well with him
 
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#3,930
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
Everybody right now is still new to CLK's system, so it's not like Stephens has a massive 2+yr headstart. If Scroggins has the goods...and I think most of us agree he does, then I'm banking on CLK ushering in HIS player ASAP + Lamaison #2= Stephens transfers to a 1AA next summer
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It will be interesting. I think a lot will do with the progression of JC. If JC is much improved and stays healthy, it hurts Stephens. If JC gets injured or does not improve at all, Stephens may have an earlier shot at playing over Lamaison.

I think the biggest thing for NS is his attitude and relations with the other players. He does not have the greatest physical tools, but has enough to make due. I know a couple of players and they have said in the past that the biggest issue with him is that the other players don't respect him. From our conversations, I liken the situation to something similar of a supervisor who employees hate because he has a terrible way of communicating.

I agree though, if Lamaison jumps him in the fall, its hello 1AA
 
#3,931
#3,931
EricFreakingBerry said:
Unfortunately "The One" returns no results as the words are too short. I wish someone with Rivals/Scout access would fill us in on this guy, he sounds amazing.
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When I searched the one, here is what I got....

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:)
 
#3,932
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
I would never have guessed Coleman would either. I figured he was likely going to be the starter at some point. Nothing about Stephens points to him being starter material...so, like Crompton, he'd have to really bust out of his shell to be a starter next fall, IMO.
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The difference is, Coleman can start for three years at UTC. Stephens is going to be a senior next year. There's barely any reason to get one year of playing time in comparison to the fact B.J. Coleman can at least play for a few seasons and help rebuild a fledgling program.
 
#3,933
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
I would never have guessed Coleman would either. I figured he was likely going to be the starter at some point. Nothing about Stephens points to him being starter material...so, like Crompton, he'd have to really bust out of his shell to be a starter next fall, IMO. And again, seems to be abundant evidence that CLK REALLY wants to get that bitter Raider taste out of his mouth by getting HIS players on the field ASAP. I honestly believe that was just one reason why he let Boyd go. he has an intense desire to do things HIS way and make HIS choices. Starting Fulmer's QB recruit for 4yrs probably didn't sit well with him
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Stephens would have 1 year to play...why would he transfer. Hell I would just ride the scholly out and get my degree if I knew I wasn't going to play. No shame in that. If he was going to have a couple years to play I could see that.
 
#3,934
#3,934
EricFreakingBerry said:
The difference is, Coleman can start for three years at UTC. Stephens is going to be a senior next year. There's barely any reason to get one year of playing time in comparison to the fact B.J. Coleman can at least play for a few seasons and help rebuild a fledgling program.
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Knox9552 said:
Stephens would have 1 year to play...why would he transfer. Hell I would just ride the scholly out and get my degree if I knew I wasn't going to play. No shame in that. If he was going to have a couple years to play I could see that.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
#3,935
#3,935
I have seen a few QB's that have transfered out in their last year. If he gets his degree on time and is interested in graduate school at all, that might be alluring. He could go to a championship contender in 1AA or a D2 in need of QB.
 
#3,936
#3,936
Knox9552 said:
Stephens would have 1 year to play...why would he transfer. Hell I would just ride the scholly out and get my degree if I knew I wasn't going to play. No shame in that. If he was going to have a couple years to play I could see that.
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I agree to an extent, but if you've been here 3+ yrs and the NEW coach is putting HIS guys ahead of you...he could do worse than transfer to an Appalachian State or something and get to play a full season
 
#3,939
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I think hubbs has no idea. He says UT or UF but if Jesse did move the announcement up a couple of weeks I would think UT or USC simply because he is probably being pushed by one of the coaching staffs to announce so the other program can move along. Just a simple coaching courtesy between two sets of coaches that respect each other and have worked together. Would make no sense for UF to do that with either school. Just my thoughts, I could be completely wrong.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
Everybody right now is still new to CLK's system, so it's not like Stephens has a massive 2+yr headstart. If Scroggins has the goods...and I think most of us agree he does, then I'm banking on CLK ushering in HIS player ASAP + Lamaison #2= Stephens transfers to a 1AA next summer
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Right now, Stephens is very confident with where he is within the program and not interested in a transfer. His attitude is very good.

He is looking at this season as being one injury from starting and is intent on being the starter in 2010.

I think his dedication will bring him those results in 2010. If something happens with Jon this year, he ends up starting this season....

Now, I realize things could change but that is currently the status.

I think fans are much more enamored with JS capabilities early on than coaches are.... I'll say again, I haven't seen the first film clip on any player. Assessing football players is not my deal. I'm just not capable of doing that
 
#3,941
#3,941
LAJBoys said:
I think hubbs has no idea. He says UT or UF but if Jesse did move the announcement up a couple of weeks I would think UT or USC simply because he is probably being pushed by one of the coaching staffs to announce so the other program can move along. Just a simple coaching courtesy between two sets of coaches that respect each other and have worked together. Would make no sense for UF to do that with either school. Just my thoughts, I could be completely wrong.
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I agree and it is more likely that Carroll is the one who is pushing this because he knows that Kiffin needs to get his QB.

USC doesn't need a QB immediately nor does UF.
 
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How is the relationship between Kiffin and Carroll?

Is there any possibility that Carroll would help Kiffin out to some extent with JS, maybe to stick it to Meyer?
 
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KB5252 said:
How is the relationship between Kiffin and Carroll?

Is there any possibility that Carroll would help Kiffin out to some extent with JS, maybe to stick it to Meyer?
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I think we must have a good relationship with the staff not only because we have a couple of guys from there but also do you remember Monte going to a meeting with their defensive coaches at the beginning of the year? Well there was a picture of it... it may have actually been an old picture, i just remember there was a fuss about it. But either way, the fact he was there whenever it was, shows we do in fact have good ties.
 
#3,949
#3,949
I think you can expect an announcement by next Friday and the fact that it is being moved up is a good sign for USC if you ask me...

Thanks for letting me post on your board BTW!
 
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1. My gut says JS goes elsewhere. My gut, though sizeable, is often known to be a dang liar. But sometimes it's right on the money. You don't ever know which it might be until the issue is resolved. It's better suited for hindsight, but it still says JS is not a Vol.

2. Tennessee's needs OL's about as much as a QB -maybe even more. I find it interesting that we get two OL commits on Monday, though they were offered at camps some time ago. Why this week and not last? Why not next week, or the one after? Is there any significance to the timing of their announcements?

3. Florida and USC have something that UT doesn't when it comes to JS's commitment - time - they can easily wait, and UT could least afford to do so. Considering that their efforts at recruiting on the offensive side of the ball are stalled until he signs, UT would not have wanted to delay his announcement.

4. CLK not only took recruits from CUM....he snatched them....and then convinced each to be, let's say, less than forthcoming in their decisions to switch allegiances. CUM would no doubt like to return the favor in similiar fashion. If JS were in my pocket so to speak, I'd have him drag UT along for as long as I could....before breaking their hearts. If I were a player who intended to play for CUM, I'd gladly play along.

5. Interesting that JS specifically mentioned meeting BB at the UT camp. Rumor has it that BB had to oppose the wishes of one or both parents to ultimately choose UT. JS's dad reportedly wants JS at USC. Wonder how long these two talked, and if they still do?

6. It's been well-documented that JS's father developed his own poor-man's QB-training regiment because the family could not afford to do otherwise. I wonder if he'll get used to his life-long project playing on the other side of the continent? I wonder how he'll afford to travel back and forth to Knoxville? His dad was quoted as saying that a single trip to Orlando was so financially taxing on the family that, ""It took us a while to get from under that,". Imagine the cost his parents would incur if they had to fly in and out of McGhee-Tyson, instead.

7. Of the three (3) schools remaining, its hard to believe Tennessee wouldn't see the greatest benefit of his making an announcement next week.

8. How cool would it be if we offered his cousin a scholly - which we all well know that MH would require that we honor - and then JS signs with Florida. Imagine the PR nightmare that CLK would face if he kicked the guy off or revoked his scholarship, thereafter, if he kept his nose clean? Imagine is CUM used him as a mole into the program?

9. Of late, JS has indicated that a packed depth-chart is not a prohibiting factor to selecting his school of choice - removing the single greatest knock against his signing with USC - but this wasn't always his stance. Recall Feldman's blog (ESPN) from June 3rd, when he said, "He says the biggest factors in his decision will be the depth chart (he'd be fine with redshirting but doesn't want to sit behind some starter for three years)...". I wondered what changed his mind in only 30 short days, if it has at all?

10. Feldmen also mentioned in the same blog that JS also listed a program's stability as being very important to him. CUM is most persistently rumored to want to jump to either the NFL or the Irish - and he just hired a new OC. The NCAA just combined the on-going investigations into allegations of USC's violations in both basketball and football. The Trojans just lost their OC and DC's. Remarkably, though CLK and co. have yet to call a single game, and depsite all of the controversies they've encountered, one could argue that they are the most stable of the three programs.

11. Do you think that dad put all of this hard work and effort in to JS's development, only to see him stop at the college level? Do you think that he likes the thought of JS being buried on a depth chart and (likely) only starting for a single year? Do you think that it's worth his son playing on the opposite side of the continent for 3-4 years to advance his chances of making the league, thereafter? Do you think that he likes the idea of his son playing in a system which they themselves admit is not welcomed in the NFL? How about playing in that same system as they attempt to "adapt" it to a more pro-style one, instead?

12. BB's "friend" had pics of him on his visit on her FB page. Then she removed them. Then she cancelled her entire account. He still signed with us. JS taking the rock off his FB might be of equal (or even less) significance to that.
 
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