'10 CA QB Jesse Scroggins (USC Solid Verbal)

Which school will Scroggins verbally commit to tomorrow?

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#5,876
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Not really. Learning the under center movements, maybe a challenge for him. Is he great enough of a player to do that?? I don't know, but the coaching staff will evaluate him in the fall.
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I am going off pure skill alone. No one has the skill set he does. Yeah, he may need refining but who would u rather have next season as a QB, ginger or Newton?

Lamiason is in there too, but i personally dont expect alot out of him.
 
#5,878
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BuckeyeVols said:
Are you serious? Cam was a 5* QB....I am pretty sure he can figure out how to take a snap from the center fairly quickly. He is much more talented physically than any other QB in this class, bar-none.
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Trying to teach someone to do something well is difficult to do. It takes patience and practice, and I don't think that Cam's current school is going to run anything other than the spread while he is there.
 
#5,881
#5,881
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Sure. Not everyone has great feet and the correct mechanics to do it well. That's why he has played primarily in the shotgun spread in his career.
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lol. The reason he has primarily played in the shotgun spread during his career was because most highschools across the US are heading in that direction.
 
#5,882
#5,882
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Not really. Learning the under center movements, maybe a challenge for him. Is he great enough of a player to do that?? I don't know, but the coaching staff will evaluate him in the fall.
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Dude, you are stuck on this concept that prospects that played in a spread in High School can't project as a pro style guy. That's simply not the case and thank gawd because most every HS is running some version of the spread right now. It's not that hard of a transition. There are just guys whose abilities fit one or the other better. Cam Newton is a guy that could do either.
 
#5,883
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Sure. Not everyone has great feet and the correct mechanics to do it well. That's why he has played primarily in the shotgun spread in his career.
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That is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in here. An athlete like that can take snaps any which way you tell him to. The idea that he is operating out of the shotgun out of necessity is preposterous. Taking a snap isn't rocket science.
 
#5,884
#5,884
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Sure. Not everyone has great feet and the correct mechanics to do it well. That's why he has played primarily in the shotgun spread in his career.
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Having played 4 years of QB in high school, I can tell you without hesitation, it is NOT hard for an athlete the caliber of Newton to learn to take a snap from center and drop back 3,5 or 7 steps. He may not have the mental aptitude to succeed at this level as far as reading defenses and processing information....but you simply cant fault his physical tools.
 
#5,885
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matts42012volfan said:
I am going off pure skill alone. No one has the skill set he does. Yeah, he may need refining but who would u rather have next season as a QB, ginger or Newton?

Lamiason is in there too, but i personally dont expect alot out of him.
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Most of the schools that recruited Cam in HS, minus Georgia, run a spread based offense. He is a scrambler, much like Vince Young was in college. He's not a throw first kind of guy.
 
#5,887
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GAVol said:
That is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in here. An athlete like that can take snaps any which way you tell him to. The idea that he is operating out of the shotgun out of necessity is preposterous. Taking a snap isn't rocket science.
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Some people just don't like to go under center. It's just the way they are, and if I'm a coach with a guy like Cam, I'm not putting him under center EVER. He's too valuable scrambling with his size and speed.
 
#5,889
#5,889
With the OLine we have we need a scrambler. But he also has a gun too. I would take him in an instant. Newton and Rettig at QB would make me very happy.
 
#5,890
#5,890
Sabanocchio said:
Dude, you are stuck on this concept that prospects that played in a spread in High School can't project as a pro style guy. That's simply not the case and thank gawd because most every HS is running some version of the spread right now. It's not that hard of a transition. There are just guys whose abilities fit one or the other better. Cam Newton is a guy that could do either.
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That's why there are DT guys and PS guys. Cam is a DT guy that doesn't have that great of footwork. If this is going to be a team of projects, then it's going to be awhile before we win anything of significance.
 
#5,891
#5,891
BuckeyeVols said:
Having played 4 years of QB in high school, I can tell you without hesitation, it is NOT hard for an athlete the caliber of Newton to learn to take a snap from center and drop back 3,5 or 7 steps. He may not have the mental aptitude to succeed at this level as far as reading defenses and processing information....but you simply cant fault his physical tools.
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I think that's the thing. It's easier for some guys to read things just sitting back there in the shotgun than dropping back from under center.
 
#5,893
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kptvol said:
I think that's the thing. It's easier for some guys to read things just sitting back there in the shotgun than dropping back from under center.
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Which is why you will see a QB drop back into the shotgun on an obvious passing situation regardless of what style offense he is in. Good point.
 
#5,895
#5,895
BuckeyeVols said:
Having played 4 years of QB in high school, I can tell you without hesitation, it is NOT hard for an athlete the caliber of Newton to learn to take a snap from center and drop back 3,5 or 7 steps. He may not have the mental aptitude to succeed at this level as far as reading defenses and processing information....but you simply cant fault his physical tools.
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Sometimes because of the way someone plays for so long, it's hard to correct the major flaws that people have in mechanics in any sport. He's played the way he has for so long, I'm not sure that we would want to try. We have to many other projects to worry about.
 
#5,897
#5,897
GAVol said:
Yeah . . . but do you really have any idea if that's the case with Newton?
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The biggest case I have is that he committed to Florida originally. If the spread isn't the best fit for him, then people haven't been playing the guy the right way for some time now.
 
#5,898
#5,898
matts42012volfan said:
With the OLine we have we need a scrambler. But he also has a gun too. I would take him in an instant. Newton and Rettig at QB would make me very happy.
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Matt I am right with you. I think Newton is a great option as is Rettig. That is one reason I am also very high on Grayson. These are all great athletes. Rettig has the best arm but in the end we are not going to have a good pass blocking line 2010 and 2011(perhaps) they will run block well from what I have seen of Kiffin. If we had some kind of big line ready to block maybe we get a different type of guy. But in our situation we need someone who can move. Kiffin likes QBs that can move anyway.
 
#5,900
#5,900
kptvol said:
I think that's the thing. It's easier for some guys to read things just sitting back there in the shotgun than dropping back from under center.
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I agree with that....what I am saying is, it isnt anywhere hear as hard to "teach" someone with the athleticism of Newton how to take proper drops from center. A lot of people think its "easier" to read a D from the shotgun, and I know from personal experience that isnt the case. In the shotgun you have to worry about the ball getting back to you. You have to keep your eye on the ball, make sure you catch it, and THEN start looking for receivers. Coming from under center, you are looking for open receivers from the second you say hike. More and more high school QBs are realizing that if they want to get to The League and make millions, they had better go to a college that puts them under center a lot.
 
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