'14 TN WR Josh Malone (UT commit 12/4/13)

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volinSmyrna said:
Not trying to bash you, but you know this is a "fact" because.....? Seems to me Clemson has a bunch of unproven QB's, and UT has a bunch of mostly unproven QB's. At least we can point to Worley's performance and say "This is our fall-back option"...which isn't that bad and beat South Carolina....which beat Clemson (sorry had to do it).
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IDK about fact but the QB situation is the one card Clemson had to play over UT. You can bet that is a consideration.

I will say I think the coaches likely pointed out that Watson is an unknown commodity. Dobbs, Worley, Ferguson have more probability of starting next year than Watson does at Clemson. Worley with an crappy supporting cast hung more points on Carolina than Clemson's dynamic offense did. You can bet this has been highlighted by our staff regarding his concerns with the QB position.
 
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DC Vol said:
Just out of morbid curiosity... how in the world do you know what Malone thinks between Dobbs/Ferg and Watson?

This sounds more like anecdotes, conjecture and projection than it does hard facts.
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Because Clemson wouldn't even be in the race if that was the case. It's not a projection, just look at his quotes.

IMO, Tenn would have had this thing locked up a long time ago if he didn't have major questions about who is going to be throwing him the ball.
 
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The want and need argument favors us big time.

Butch is selling Josh on being a key to the class that brings UT back. He's selling him on being a Vol legend.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
You think Clemson "needs" him more than UT?
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No, I think we absolutely need him more. But it makes it sound like he's a commodity instead of an student athlete.

I don't know. Just bugs me. Guess I'm trying not get my hopes up.
 
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volinSmyrna said:
Not trying to bash you, but you know this is a "fact" because.....? Seems to me Clemson has a bunch of unproven QB's, and UT has a bunch of mostly unproven QB's. At least we can point to Worley's performance and say "This is our fall-back option"...which isn't that bad and beat South Carolina....which beat Clemson (sorry had to do it).
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Stoudt has played a good bit this year and shown he has a decent grasp of the offense and a decent arm. I wouldn't mind him being on our depth chart at all.
 
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DC Vol said:
Dabo is in his 6th year at Clemson. He's 1-3 versus Fisher's FSU and 1-5 versus South Carolina... who Jones happens to already be 1-0 against.

Clemson's place in the pecking order has been firmly established under Swinney.
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He's won 18 straight by double digits against unranked opponents too. Bet the Vols would be loving a double digit win over the Vandy's of the world. He's also beat a top 10 LSU and a top 5 UGA team. To act like he hasn't won big games is just being extremely selective in your argument.

Oh, and I completely agree with you on the USCjr thing. Nobody wants that whole fiasco to stop more than me. It's just one of those things, but to try and spin it like our program sucks is just not accurate.
 
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palmer103 said:
Because Clemson wouldn't even be in the race if that was the case. It's not a projection, just look at his quotes.

IMO, Tenn would have had this thing locked up a long time ago if he didn't have major questions about who is going to be throwing him the ball.
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It could be true that he has bought into that...but we don't know how Clemson spun their pathetic Offensive performance against an SEC D either. Easy to look dynamic against 75% of offenses in ACC. Maybe that's how the sold it. You can put up huge numbers against irrelevant teams with no one watching.

That performance provided TN with points against the argument. If Taj was that bad, those guys are worse.

He may still pick Clemson though.
 
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BigOrangeLoyalist said:
I interpreted as, Josh 'wants' to come to UT, but from a "business standpoint," he may feel that he 'needs' to go to Clemson.
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Facts don't really back this up much though. The w/l column is the only recent thing in Clemson's favor right now, but that will change soon. As in "business decision", I'm assuming you mean getting to the next level or the academic side of things. We are solid on both.
 
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palmer103 said:
He's won 18 straight by double digits against unranked opponents too. Bet the Vols would be loving a double digit win over the Vandy's of the world..
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palmer103 said:
He's won 18 straight by double digits against unranked opponents too. Bet the Vols would be loving a double digit win over the Vandy's of the world. He's also beat a top 10 LSU and a top 5 UGA team. To act like he hasn't won big games is just being extremely selective in your argument.

Oh, and I completely agree with you on the USCjr thing. Nobody wants that whole fiasco to stop more than me. It's just one of those things, but to try and spin it like our program sucks is just not accurate.
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yeah Dabo is a solid coach - depending on which dominoes fall he could be in line for a move/salary increase

would love to see saban bounce and he go back home to coach

while he is a good recruiter and as you said has won some big games i would feel much better about our chances with him at the helm than little nicky
 
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palmer103 said:
He's won 18 straight by double digits against unranked opponents too. Bet the Vols would be loving a double digit win over the Vandy's of the world. He's also beat a top 10 LSU and a top 5 UGA team. To act like he hasn't won big games is just being extremely selective in your argument.

Oh, and I completely agree with you on the USCjr thing. Nobody wants that whole fiasco to stop more than me. It's just one of those things, but to try and spin it like our program sucks is just not accurate.
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Imo your program sucks
 
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palmer103 said:
He's won 18 straight by double digits against unranked opponents too. Bet the Vols would be loving a double digit win over the Vandy's of the world. He's also beat a top 10 LSU and a top 5 UGA team. To act like he hasn't won big games is just being extremely selective in your argument.

Oh, and I completely agree with you on the USCjr thing. Nobody wants that whole fiasco to stop more than me. It's just one of those things, but to try and spin it like our program sucks is just not accurate.
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You think Clemson would beat Vandy by double digits on neutral site?
 
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EZE said:
But according to your logic, his dad's favorite team was still Ole Miss. And that is my point. Not every parent is selfish enough to make their child's college selection about themselves. I think most want the child to make the best selection for the child.
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It is called respect. Something a lot the younger generations has lost sight of (and no I am not saying that about Josh). Archie knew because of the circumstances, Peyton would have the best chance to succeed at Tennessee and not Ole Miss. As hard as it was, he blessed it because it was the best situation for his son.
 
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nashvol1 said:
It could be true that he has bought into that...but we don't know how Clemson spun their pathetic Offensive performance against an SEC D either. Easy to look dynamic against 75% of offenses in ACC. Maybe that's how the sold it. You can put up huge numbers against irrelevant teams with no one watching.

That performance provided TN with points against the argument. If Taj was that bad, those guys are worse.

He may still pick Clemson though.
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Clemson had no problem moving the ball against LSU last year (sick ass D, 7 players drafted or something absurd), UGA, or even USCe this year. They went 2-1 in those games. It wasn't that they couldn't move the ball, it's that they had 6 turnovers, 2 on punt returns.
 
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vollygirl said:
No, I think we absolutely need him more. But it makes it sound like he's a commodity instead of an student athlete.

I don't know. Just bugs me. Guess I'm trying not get my hopes up.
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I'll be disappointed but I don't think he is going to buy into that. Morris departing could have a lot more potential impact on Clemson's offense than a QB recruit who has proven nothing yet. And again despite our QB concerns Worley performed better within UT's offense with lesser talent than Clemson did against Carolina with their loaded offensive system. The UGA game was neck and neck for both teams. But I would look at apples to apples and say UT's system looks better against the same competition.
 
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nashvol1 said:
You think Clemson would beat Vandy by double digits on neutral site?
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DESTROY them. They are awful and a product of a very down SEC East. They almost lost to wake at home. We beat Wake by 50 something points and pulled the starter in the 3rd.
 
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