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[Stoked]

Which is stupid because Hank died over Walt calling in the nazi's.



How do you know it's a year later? Did I miss that, I didn't think they flashed a timeline on the screen.



This and this.

In the very beginning of season 5 (I think) Walt is in a diner with hair and a beard. He tells the waitress to put his bacon in a the shape of "53" so at least a few months had passed by. It was a tradition Skylar would do. The very 1st episode in season 1 she put the bacon in a "51"...hard to believe all that has happened, has happened in less than 2 years...

 

[UTCVol]

How do you know it's a year later? Did I miss that, I didn't think they flashed a timeline on the screen.

It's definitely a few months but not a whole year. The montage in S5E8 spanned several months as the money began to accumulate even more.

 

[Nerd-Vol]

I honestly have no idea how people can defend at Walt at this point. There should be no sympathy there whatsoever.

I fell so hard off the Walt support train it might have caused an earthquake.

I thought I wanted Hank dead, I was wrong on that.

I am on team Jesse, Flynn, and Skylar.

I found Walt saying "this is family, we are supposed to be a family" ironic. This is the man who just had his BIL killed.

I was really nervous that Skylar or Flynn would be hurt or killed in that tussle. Good on Flynn for keeping the innocence.

I can't believe that there are two more episodes left.

 

[n_huffhines]

I think Walt goes back to save him and jessr kills him. Walts final words will be an apology.

This. Hope they don't make it hokey.

 

[UofLFan]

In the very beginning of season 5 (I think) Walt is in a diner with hair and a beard. He tells the waitress to put his bacon in a the shape of "53" so at least a few months had passed by. It was a tradition Skylar would do. The very 1st episode in season 1 she put the bacon in a "51"...hard to believe all that has happened, has happened in less than 2 years...

Sorry to nit pick but in the pilot he was turning 50. So at Denny's he was arranging the bacon into "52".

 

[mrorange211]

It's definitely a few months but not a whole year. The montage in S5E8 spanned several months as the money began to accumulate even more.

Hmmm you may be right now that I think about it.

The scene in the diner shows him breaking pieces of bacon to put on his eggs like Sky did in the first episode. I believe that Walt's b-day is exactly one year removed from the beginning of this whole thing.

Therefore, I think you are right: looks like it was only a few months that Walt was gone before he decided to come back Norris style.

 

[mrorange211]

Sorry to nit pick but in the pilot he was turning 50. So at Denny's he was arranging the bacon into "52".

Ahhhh I was wondering what the number was because I had forgotten.

If it's 52 then it's entirely possible, if not likely, that Walt was gone for a year or more.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Ahhhh I was wondering what the number was because I had forgotten.

If it's 52 then it's entirely possible, if not likely, that Walt was gone for a year or more.

We saw his 51st birthday in episode 4 of the first half of this season; that's been probably at least a few months since then in the current time, so the flash forward to his 52nd birthday has to be less than a year.

 

[Coug]

How in the heck can you guys give freakin' Flynn grief for defending his mom? Dude JUST found out his dad was a meth dealer, had been lying for a long time, and that he may or may not be responsible for the death of his uncle that he was pretty close to. Ridiculous.

Skylar grabbed the knife not Walt and Flynn saw the whole thing so when he told the 911 operator that his dad came at his mom with a knife it's bull.

Hmmm you may be right now that I think about it.

The scene in the diner shows him breaking pieces of bacon to put on his eggs like Sky did in the first episode. I believe that Walt's b-day is exactly one year removed from the beginning of this whole thing.

Therefore, I think you are right: looks like it was only a few months that Walt was gone before he decided to come back Norris style.

That's what I was thinking is that it's several months.

I fell so hard off the Walt support train it might have caused an earthquake.

I thought I wanted Hank dead, I was wrong on that.

I am on team Jesse, Flynn, and Skylar.

I found Walt saying "this is family, we are supposed to be a family" ironic. This is the man who just had his BIL killed.

I was really nervous that Skylar or Flynn would be hurt or killed in that tussle. Good on Flynn for keeping the innocence.

I can't believe that there are two more episodes left.

Walt didn't have Hank killed, Walt tried to prevent it even. The nazi idiot did it himself. Truth be told the nazi's were only there to kill Jesse.

You mean good on Flynn for lying to 911.

 

[Coug]

This was a genius character

I'm gonna miss this

 

[duckman398686]

I fell so hard off the Walt support train it might have caused an earthquake.

I thought I wanted Hank dead, I was wrong on that.

I am on team Jesse, Flynn, and Skylar.

I found Walt saying "this is family, we are supposed to be a family" ironic. This is the man who just had his BIL killed.

I was really nervous that Skylar or Flynn would be hurt or killed in that tussle. Good on Flynn for keeping the innocence.

I can't believe that there are two more episodes left.

In retrospect, I might have been a bit harsh saying that last night. I don't completely hate Walt, but he lost me a ton last night when on top of giving Jesse up to the Nazis he decided to pour salt in the wound with the revelation to him about Jane. I know Jesse isn't a saint, but it was just cold......and somewhat irrational since Jesse isn't the sole reason for Hank's death.

I'm probably more pro Jesse than I am pro Walt at this point, but this could probably end a multitude of ways and I would be happy with it barring some colossal train wreck of an ending.

 

[duckman398686]

Skylar grabbed the knife not Walt and Flynn saw the whole thing so when he told the 911 operator that his dad came at his mom with a knife it's bull.

Yes, but that still doesn't change the fact that he had just found out that his dad was a huge drug kingpin and had all the reason in the world to be upset with him. Who pulled the knife on who is irrelevant. In Jr's eyes, Walt is the bad guy now and his 911 call justified him feeling that way.

 

[duckman398686]

 

[Nerd-Vol]

Yes, but that still doesn't change the fact that he had just found out that his dad was a huge drug kingpin and had all the reason in the world to be upset with him. Who pulled the knife on who is irrelevant. In Jr's eyes, Walt is the bad guy now and his 911 call justified him feeling that way.

Exactly.

Also, Flynn was trying to get Walt out of there as quickly as possible. The lie he told to 911 was a pretty effective way to do it.

I am not sure if Walt genuinely wanted to save hank because he cared for hank or he knew it would be game over for himself. Walt seemed pretty distraught, but then again he also knew at that point that any chance for a family life was over.

I wonder if that will get cleared up next weekend.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Skylar grabbed the knife not Walt and Flynn saw the whole thing so when he told the 911 operator that his dad came at his mom with a knife it's bull.

Walt didn't have Hank killed, Walt tried to prevent it even. The nazi idiot did it himself. Truth be told the nazi's were only there to kill Jesse.

1) Who grabbed the knife is moot; Skylar grabbed the knife because she wanted Walt out, as she thought he was a danger to her family. She just found out Walt was responsible for Hank dying (yes he IS responsible). She only attacked after he ignored her and came towards her and she acted in defense. As bad as Skylar has been, I see nothing she did wrong there.

Flynn is a 16 year old kid who again JUST found out who his dad really is and his dad is involved with the death of his uncle. I think you're being extremely irrational in how you're characterizing his actions.

2) No, Walt didn't actually kill Hank, but he's definitely responsible. He got them involved and gave them the exact location. He's not dealing with a bunch of church volunteers here; he knows what kind of people they are. Him trying to negotiate to save Hank's life doesn't absolve him of any guilt; that's not how it works.

 

[SamRebel35]

1) Who grabbed the knife is moot; Skylar grabbed the knife because she wanted Walt out, as she thought he was a danger to her family. She just found out Walt was responsible for Hank dying (yes he IS responsible). She only attacked after he ignored her and came towards her and she acted in defense. As bad as Skylar has been, I see nothing she did wrong there.

Flynn is a 16 year old kid who again JUST found out who his dad really is and his dad is involved with the death of his uncle. I think you're being extremely irrational in how you're characterizing his actions.

2) No, Walt didn't actually kill Hank, but he's definitely responsible. He got them involved and gave them the exact location. He's not dealing with a bunch of church volunteers here; he knows what kind of people they are. Him trying to negotiate to save Hank's life doesn't absolve him of any guilt; that's not how it works.

Once Hank found out Walt was Heisenberg, Walt warned him he better keep his distance. Hank willingly entered a realm he wasn't prepared for. His death is by his own pride. Walt isn't responsible for that. If Hank had not turned Jesse into a snitch, the Nazis wouldn't have treated Hank like collateral damage.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Once Hank found out Walt was Heisenberg, Walt warned him he better keep his distance. Hank willingly entered a realm he wasn't prepared for. His death is by his own pride. Walt isn't responsible for that. If Hank had not turned Jesse into a snitch, the Nazis wouldn't have treated Hank like collateral damage.

Giving someone a warning doesn't absolve you of what happens to them.

By that logic, terrorists aren't responsible for what they do because they warn governments bad things are going to happen if something doesn't happen.

 

[Jestes311]

Sorry to nit pick but in the pilot he was turning 50. So at Denny's he was arranging the bacon into "52".

This.

 

[SamRebel35]

Giving someone a warning doesn't absolve you of what happens to them.

By that logic, terrorists aren't responsible for what they do because they warn governments bad things are going to happen if something doesn't happen.

Walt is responsible for what he has done, not what others do. Why is it his fault that hank made himself a target for the nazis by voluntarily inserting himself in the prideful quest to catch Heisenberg? That's on Hank and the Nazis, not Walt. Walt didn't order Hank killed. In fact, he gave away 80 million dollars to ensure that Hank doesn't end up as collateral damage. What does Hank do? He asks for the bullet anyway. How is that Walt's fault? Walt is responsible for a lot of really Horrible things, but hank's death isn't one of them.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Walt is responsible for what he has done, not what others do. Why is it his fault that hank made himself a target for the nazis by voluntarily inserting himself in the prideful quest to catch Heisenberg? That's on Hank and the Nazis, not Walt. Walt didn't order Hank killed. In fact, he gave away 80 million dollars to ensure that Hank doesn't end up as collateral damage. What does Hank do? He asks for the bullet anyway. How is that Walt's fault? Walt is responsible for a lot of really Horrible things, but hank's death isn't one of them.

I don't think Walt is completely responsible, but he has some responsibility. And again, just because he tried to negotiate a deal to save Hank doesn't absolve him of any guilt. If he got arrested for all this, he would face charges in Hank's death.

Hank is a DEA agent; it's his job to find guys like Walt and shut them down. I think you're seriously stretching to say he was being "prideful". I'll grant you he was obsessive about it all but there was also this little fact that he was right. The only way I will even remotely agree on the pride part is he didn't want to go to the DEA because it would ruin his career; but he also had no hard evidence yet.

 

[Cdywolfe]

A couple of thoughts about the episode...

First off.... What a brilliant show. I usually like to wait until shows are off the air for at least a few years before I try to rank them in the greatest, but I think it's safe to say that (at least in my opinion) Breaking Bad is the best show ever.

I don't get the Walt hate. This episode had him (for the first time in a long time) making huge sacrifices in order to protect the ones he cared about. Giving up all that money to try and save Hank, making that call he knew would be recorded and basically letting all the blame fall on him, and returning Holly back to her mother since that's what was best for her (even though she was basically the only person he had in his life that didn't despise him).

I hope Marie gets in hard. The way she showed up at the car wash to gloat and force Skylar to tell Walt Jr. like she had just won some type of game was despicable and I hope she pays.

Even though Jesse basically lost my support when he teamed up with the DEA to get Walt I found my self feeling pity for him. He didn't deserve getting tortured and turned into a slave.

Also, as far as Hank goes, Walt's hands aren't completely clean but if Hank hadn't gotten obsessed with catching Walt and gone completely vigilante then he (and Gommie) would still be alive.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

A couple of thoughts about the episode...

First off.... What a brilliant show. I usually like to wait until shows are off the air for at least a few years before I try to rank them in the greatest, but I think it's safe to say that (at least in my opinion) Breaking Bad is the best show ever.

I don't get the Walt hate. This episode had him (for the first time in a long time) making huge sacrifices in order to protect the ones he cared about. Giving up all that money to try and save Hank, making that call he knew would be recorded and basically letting all the blame fall on him, and returning Holly back to her mother since that's what was best for her (even though she was basically the only person he had in his life that didn't despise him).

I hope Marie gets in hard. The way she showed up at the car wash to gloat and force Skylar to tell Walt Jr. like she had just won some type of game was despicable and I hope she pays.

Even though Jesse basically lost my support when he teamed up with the DEA to get Walt I found my self feeling pity for him. He didn't deserve getting tortured and turned into a slave.

Also, as far as Hank goes, Walt's hands aren't completely clean but if Hank hadn't gotten obsessed with catching Walt and gone completely vigilante then he (and Gommie) would still be alive.

I don't get why anyone is even remotely sympathetic to Walt at all at this point. He is ultimately responsible for this entire mess.

Making huge sacrifices? That's crazy...at the very least he's somewhat owning up to the crap he's caused. I see it as karma that all he worked for was taken from him; his money, his family, all the crap he did is now for nothing.

And are you seriously patting him on the back for returning the baby he stole? He put that child in danger because of his own pride and desperation; giving the child back safely was the LEAST the guy could do.

Walt has more than earned all the hate he's getting.

As far as Marie, I really didn't see what she did as gloating, I saw it as her reaching out to her sister to give her a chance to save herself. And how in the world can you hope she "gets it" but still think Walt is an ok guy?

 

[Cdywolfe]

I don't get why anyone is even remotely sympathetic to Walt at all at this point. He is ultimately responsible for this entire mess.

Making huge sacrifices? That's crazy...at the very least he's somewhat owning up to the crap he's caused. I see it as karma that all he worked for was taken from him; his money, his family, all the crap he did is now for nothing.

And are you seriously patting him on the back for returning the baby he stole? He put that child in danger because of his own pride and desperation; giving the child back safely was the LEAST the guy could do.

Walt has more than earned all the hate he's getting.

As far as Marie, I really didn't see what she did as gloating, I saw it as her reaching out to her sister to give her a chance to save herself. And how in the world can you hope she "gets it" but still think Walt is an ok guy?

Never said Walt was an ok guy. I see him as a guy whose made a series of horrible choices and, for the first in forever, made a few good ones. If you can't see that (and what Marie did as obvious gloating that they won) then we must be watching different shows. Also I see taking the baby as a knee jerk reaction, one that once he realized what a mistake it was, he corrected.

 

[NochNoch]

I hope Marie gets in hard. The way she showed up at the car wash to gloat and force Skylar to tell Walt Jr. like she had just won some type of game was despicable and I hope she pays.

Jesus H! I hope she pays? Yeah, because she's the one out of all of these people who deserve to pay, not the meth dealing, mass murdering, baby stealing psychopath.

Even though Jesse basically lost my support when he teamed up with the DEA to get Walt I found my self feeling pity for him. He didn't deserve getting tortured and turned into a slave.

So he loses your support the first time he actually does something responsible?

 

[Rockytopman]

Marie is a thief.... she's got her problems too