Another Priest Bites the Dust

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therealUT said:
You do not believe this.
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Yes I believe this 100%.
Every building that has the Church in the name is not a House of God. That includes all denominations. I am a Baptist and I including some of those churches. Westboro Baptist comes to mind. Their actions are not Christianity. They spew out hate instead of love.
 
#152
#152
Gramps said:
Yes I believe this 100%.
Every building that has the Church in the name is not a House of God. That includes all denominations. I am a Baptist and I including some of those churches. Westboro Baptist comes to mind. Their actions are not Christianity. They spew out hate instead of love.
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You believe God is omnipresent, correct?

You believe that God does not abandon individuals that are erring, correct?

Thus, God would be within 10 miles, 10 feet, 10 inches; in fact, on your belief, God would still be inside those buildings and inside the individuals in those buildings.
 
#153
#153
therealUT said:
Ironic post is ironic. Sola fidelis is inherently a religious, and not an ethical or moral, concept. Yet, ethics and morality are focused on the good. Thus, one could, in theory, be good and yet not ask God to save their soul (in fact, if they were always good, why would they need to ask God to save their soul); yet, you would state that this person is excluded from heaven because they have not placed faith in God. However, to place faith in God is to act religiously. Yet, you assert that religion will get you nowhere but hell. Quite a predicament.



This is the wrong response and challenge to give to Bamacheats. I would suggest using the understanding of the trinity (God the Creator, God the judge, and God the spirit), and assert that Abraham did believe in the tripartite God of the Christians. According to the story, Abraham certainly believed that God created; he was spoken to through the spirit; and, in willingly going to sacrifice Isaac, he must have believed that God would judge him. The fact that he does not use the term "Jesus" is of no consequence.
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What I'm saying about religion is that if u only put your faith into religion then you will fail.....their are all kinds of religion....but only one way into heaven....and yes I believe that even tho somebody may be good all their life they are still lost....it says we are born into sin....so we are all sinners and need salvation....
 
#154
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
What I'm saying about religion is that if u only put your faith into religion then you will fail.....their are all kinds of religion....but only one way into heaven....and yes I believe that even tho somebody may be good all their life they are still lost....it says we are born into sin....so we are all sinners and need salvation....
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What is the one way into heaven? Is it living a good life or is it being pious and asking God to save your soul?

One of these modes is putting all your faith in the religious, and, thus, religion; the other is working to do good.
 
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#155
therealUT said:
What is the one way into heaven? Is it living a good life or is it being pious and asking God to save your soul?

One of these modes is putting all your faith in the religious, and, thus, religion; the other is working to do good.
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While its great to do good in life, Good works alone will not get you into Heaven....only by asking God to save your soul will....just like I stated earlier....
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
While its great to do good in life, Good works alone will not get you into Heaven....only by asking God to save your soul will....just like I stated earlier....
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And, this is the epitome of religion. Which, as you stated earlier, is a sure path to hell.
 
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therealUT said:
And, this is the epitome of religion. Which, as you stated earlier, is a sure path to hell.
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And yet you are not acknowledging the fact that I said the only way is by asking God to save your soul....no matter what religion you are....whether you are Catholic, Muslim, Budha, or Baptist. People put to much stock into what religion they are....you can be religious but can only enter Heaven thru salvation and that is by asking God to save your soul...no matter how religious you are or what religion you are.....
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
And yet you are not acknowledging the fact that I said the only way is by asking God to save your soul....no matter what religion you are....whether you are Catholic, Muslim, Budha, or Baptist. People put to much stock into what religion they are....you can be religious but can only enter Heaven thru salvation and that is by asking God to save your soul...no matter how religious you are or what religion you are.....
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I am acknowledging what you have said, and none of what you have said and/or responded with has disassociated you from the following statement:

Religion will get u nowhere but Hell...
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Asking God for help is religious and, thus, is religion. Therefore, what you have asserted is that religion is the only way to heaven and religion will get you nowhere but hell.

I have not even begun to criticize your stance regarding the only way to get to heaven as the highest form of blasphemy. Right now, I am just trying to get you to see this simple and blatant contradiction in your thought.
 
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therealUT said:
I am acknowledging what you have said, and none of what you have said and/or responded with has disassociated you from the following statement:



Asking God for help is religious and, thus, is religion. Therefore, what you have asserted is that religion is the only way to heaven and religion will get you nowhere but hell.

I have not even begun to criticize your stance regarding the only way to get to heaven as the highest form of blasphemy. Right now, I am just trying to get you to see this simple and blatant contradiction in your thought.
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Too many people have the thought of well I'm a Catholic and I'm going to heaven or I'm Muslim and only I'm going to heaven, so on and so on....using what religion they are as the automatic way into heaven....not getting saved....but just by being in that one religion...

How is my stance on getting into Heaven Blasphemy? You believe there are other ways besides thru salvation....so just being nice and good your whole life?
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
Too many people have the thought of well I'm a Catholic and I'm going to heaven or I'm Muslim and only I'm going to heaven, so on and so on....using what religion they are as the automatic way into heaven....not getting saved....but just by being in that one religion...

How is my stance on getting into Heaven Blasphemy? You believe there are other ways besides thru salvation....so just being nice and good your whole life?
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How do Buddhists, Daoists, and other Dharmic followers get into heaven?

Your logic has lots and lots of holes in it.
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
Too many people have the thought of well I'm a Catholic and I'm going to heaven or I'm Muslim and only I'm going to heaven, so on and so on....using what religion they are as the automatic way into heaven....not getting saved....but just by being in that one religion...
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Neither Catholics nor Muslims hold that one must be a Catholic or a Muslim, respectively, to get into heaven; further, neither Catholicism nor Islam holds that by merely being a Catholic or a Muslim one will get into heaven (in fact, they both hold that it is more difficult for a Catholic or a Muslim to get into heaven because they understand more and know more of what it is to be good). They both hold that one must live a good life through works, and that anyone who lives such a life and does not deny the existence of God (i.e., of a supreme being) can get into heaven.

BigOrangeCrush32 said:
How is my stance on getting into Heaven Blasphemy? You believe there are other ways besides thru salvation....so just being nice and good your whole life?
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I am assuming that you hold to the notion that God is good. Am I correct in assuming this?

Upon your answer, I will offer why your stance on having to ask God to save one's soul is blasphemy.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
How do Buddhists, Daoists, and other Dharmic followers get into heaven?

Your logic has lots and lots of holes in it.
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They don't according to alot of "Christians" and that is my problem with organized religion as a whole.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
Yea, that's incorrect.
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Oh really? I've seen it so bad as to be told that since I don't grace the church doors but a couple times a year there is no place in heaven for me.

When we stopped going to a Babtist church and started going to a Methodist we were told we were giving up heaven to do so.

It happens all too often, the Church drives people away with this crap!
 
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#174
The catholic church has a vast amount of funds thanks to their globally succesful business model, making them the largest organization in the world.

Jesus aint hatin' on stacks on stacks on stacks.
 
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Obsessed said:
Don't the Buddhist worship a bunch of different idols?
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Who cares?

Is there no place in heaven for good people who happen to believe differently but still abide by the 10 commandments? How about those who have never been exposed to Christianity?
 
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