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#4,053
supposed to run 16-17 miles this weekend to get ready for my marathon in a month but I took a hard shot to my quads by a guy twice my size in a "touch" football game. anytime I do anything more than my typical walking stride I'm in pain. A little worried about my training...
 
#4,054
#4,054
volfanbill said:
supposed to run 16-17 miles this weekend to get ready for my marathon in a month but I took a hard shot to my quads by a guy twice my size in a "touch" football game. anytime I do anything more than my typical walking stride I'm in pain. A little worried about my training...
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Hopefully it's just a charlie horse and will go away soon. Good luck.
 
#4,055
#4,055
volfanbill said:
supposed to run 16-17 miles this weekend to get ready for my marathon in a month but I took a hard shot to my quads by a guy twice my size in a "touch" football game. anytime I do anything more than my typical walking stride I'm in pain. A little worried about my training...
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if it is 'just' a bruise/charley horse, activity will speed the recovery process and the potential for further injury is minimal. Trying spinning on a bike for 5-10 minutes (or longer) prior to running. If it hasn't 'loosened' up after 10 min or so of running then back off. If after a proper warm-up period it's altering your running mechanics then you shouldn't push it. If you can't work through it then it's more severe than a bruise. Best of luck.
 
#4,056
#4,056
volfanbill said:
supposed to run 16-17 miles this weekend to get ready for my marathon in a month but I took a hard shot to my quads by a guy twice my size in a "touch" football game. anytime I do anything more than my typical walking stride I'm in pain. A little worried about my training...
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Regarding your marathon in a month... not knowing your background or goal, if you've had consistent training up this this point (4 weeks out) then missing some runs at this juncture, even the long run, will not be catastrophic physiologically (the mental component I can't help with). Plenty of elite programs only have their marathoners perform long runs of 16 miles. Again, best of luck and hopefully this is just a minor bump in the road.
 
#4,060
#4,060
I bought this on a recommendation from another runner...
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It has really helped my endurance. Very noticeable. My legs are finally getting tired before my lungs and heart. I ran 3 miles non stop for the first time ever on Monday.
 
#4,062
#4,062
bamacheats said:
I bought this on a recommendation from another runner...
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It has really helped my endurance. Very noticeable. My legs are finally getting tired before my lungs and heart. I ran 3 miles non stop for the first time ever on Monday.
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Glad to see you are sticking with it. Hadn't heard from you in a while and was wondering if you were sticking with it.
 
#4,063
#4,063
Orangesmokey said:
Glad to see you are sticking with it. Hadn't heard from you in a while and was wondering if you were sticking with it.
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I'm a stubborn sob. I may royally suck at it, but I'll never quit.

I seem to have an inability to run slow. To gauge my speed I used a treadmill to determine what setting felt like a comfortable pace. An incline of 2.0 and speed of 7.4 feels comfortable to me. The folks at the Fleet Feet store tell me that's too fast for a beginner. I can't run slower though. They asked me what feels like running fast and it was a speed setting of 9.2. I can only keep that pace up for about 4 minutes.

I'm just gonna keep running at my own pace. I don't understand the technicalities of the sport.
 
#4,064
#4,064
bamacheats said:
I'm a stubborn sob. I may royally suck at it, but I'll never quit.

I seem to have an inability to run slow. To gauge my speed I used a treadmill to determine what setting felt like a comfortable pace. An incline of 2.0 and speed of 7.4 feels comfortable to me. The folks at the Fleet Feet store tell me that's too fast for a beginner. I can't run slower though. They asked me what feels like running fast and it was a speed setting of 9.2. I can only keep that pace up for about 4 minutes.

I'm just gonna keep running at my own pace. I don't understand the technicalities of the sport.
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you should be able to run and comfortably have a conversation. if you can't its too fast.
 
#4,065
#4,065
bamacheats said:
I'm a stubborn sob. I may royally suck at it, but I'll never quit.

I seem to have an inability to run slow. To gauge my speed I used a treadmill to determine what setting felt like a comfortable pace. An incline of 2.0 and speed of 7.4 feels comfortable to me. The folks at the Fleet Feet store tell me that's too fast for a beginner. I can't run slower though. They asked me what feels like running fast and it was a speed setting of 9.2. I can only keep that pace up for about 4 minutes.

I'm just gonna keep running at my own pace. I don't understand the technicalities of the sport.
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Not really a bad quality to have.

As far as the pace goes... I have always thought you run at whatever pace is comfterable to you. Some of the other runners in this thread could chime in and disagree, but I say run at whatever speed you feel comfterable and are able to obtain your goals at.
 
#4,067
#4,067
Orangesmokey said:
That's intresting. What's the thought behind being able to have a conversation?
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Speak Easy | Runner's World & Running Times

It helps to gauge your exertion level. If you are running too hard you wont have enough oxygen to talk. If you don't have the oxygen to talk you won't have the oxygen to fuel cells & purge lactic acid. Fatigue sets in quicker.

Most of your runs should be at a pace that you can have a conversation especially you're distance training.
 
#4,068
#4,068
tri_vol said:
Speak Easy | Runner's World & Running Times

It helps to gauge your exertion level. If you are running too hard you wont have enough oxygen to talk. If you don't have the oxygen to talk you won't have the oxygen to fuel cells & purge lactic acid. Fatigue sets in quicker.

Most of your runs should be at a pace that you can have a conversation especially you're distance training.
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Thanks for the link tri. That's really intresting stuff. Now I am going to look like an idiot running this afternoon because I am going to be saying the Pledge or something to see where I am at. I have a hard trying to slow myself down during my runs though. I have my RunKeeper app set to give me updates every half mile as to what my current pace, average pace and total distance is and if I see my pace is faster than normal I have a hard time slowing it down.
 
#4,069
#4,069
Orangesmokey said:
Thanks for the link tri. That's really intresting stuff. Now I am going to look like an idiot running this afternoon because I am going to be saying the Pledge or something to see where I am at. I have a hard trying to slow myself down during my runs though. I have my RunKeeper app set to give me updates every half mile as to what my current pace, average pace and total distance is and if I see my pace is faster than normal I have a hard time slowing it down.
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You're not alone. No matter how fast you are, your easy pace is going to feel like you're barely moving compared to what feels natural.
 
#4,070
#4,070
jguy2 said:
You're not alone. No matter how fast you are, your easy pace is going to feel like you're barely moving compared to what feels natural.
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That's what was funny to me about my run on Wed. My average pace for the 3.5 miles was about 10 secs or so faster than what I have been running and it felt completely normal to me. I wasn't pushing myself at all and completely expected my pace to fall off as I went through the whole distance. It just never fell off.
 
#4,071
#4,071
People underestimate the importance of easy runs. Let's your body recover to build fitness and keeps the body off balance. If you train extremely hard in 3-4 weeks your body won't be able to recover and the result is sickness, injury and loss of fitness.

If you train at a moderate to high level your body adapts and plateaus. Thats why it's recommended to do most runs at a moderate level with a high intensity runs and easy runs once a week. Then every 4th week go really easy so you have time to absorb your training and come back stronger.
 
#4,073
#4,073
tri_vol said:
People underestimate the importance of easy runs. Let's your body recover to build fitness and keeps the body off balance. If you train extremely hard in 3-4 weeks your body won't be able to recover and the result is sickness, injury and loss of fitness.

If you train at a moderate to high level your body adapts and plateaus. Thats why it's recommended to do most runs at a moderate level with a high intensity runs and easy runs once a week. Then every 4th week go really easy so you have time to absorb your training and come back stronger.
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When you say easy do you mean pace or distance or a combo of both?
 
#4,074
#4,074
3.5 today with a pace of 7:16. I tried the whole say the pledge thing and I could do it for the first half of my run but second half of the run wasn't so easy and the last .25 I couldn't do it at all.

Weekly total 10.5
 
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