Recruiting Forum: Football Talk II

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HankHill said:
I don't buy that really. Anyone can recruit at UT.

We are getting top 20 classes the past 4 years and we have sucked.

Anyone who is winning can recruit here, easilly
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No. We need an elite recruiter. Consistent top 5-10 type guy.
 
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allvol_12 said:
No. We need an elite recruiter. Consistent top 5-10 type guy.
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I think anyone can be an elite recruiter here. Obviously someone at a lesser program cannot pull the recruits at a school like TN no matter how charismatic or whatever the coach.

But when a coach gets at a school like TN then it makes all his recruiting "tactics" better and he turn into an "elite" recruiter
 
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Guys like Dooley have to win before they get elite players and classes. We need someone that can step in and get top players from day 1.
 
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HankHill said:
I think anyone can be an elite recruiter here. Obviously someone at a lesser program cannot pull the recruits at a school like TN no matter how charismatic or whatever the coach.

But when a coach gets at a school like TN then it makes all his recruiting "tactics" better and he turn into an "elite" recruiter
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Is the Dooley era not evident enough?
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Serious??? They didn't play Florida or SCAR. Two top quality opponents. You can argue about the offenses not being great but they would challenge Bama in the trenches just like they both did to LSU. I don't care about FSU. I'm talking Bama and that soft schedule. And that defense isn't better than LSU or Florida's units.
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Florida has statically one of the worst offense in the nation (104 in total offense) and south carlina is 90th. I know the SEC isnt an offensive league but that's pretty bad. So i'm not sure what amazing offenses bama has been avoiding.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Exactly. There's a MAJOR difference between top 20 and top 5. Most people can't see it.
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But there not a major one in 1-10. That's when it comes down to talent evaluation and player development.

Any coach who is a decent recruiter that has a good recruiting staff (jay grahm, ansley) if he is winning he should no problem bringing in top 10 classes here
 
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Dooley addressed the team this morning. Players wouldn't get into any details about what Dooley said to them but he addressed everything with them this morning. Players said it was very needed.
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-Hubbs

Just thought it was interesting.
 
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chavisut said:
Patterson could sign top ten classes here.
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Based on what? He is in the most fertile area for recruiting there is and hes still not blowing any doors off recruiting nor by winning anything.

Still waiting on someone to tell me what he has done thats so special other than one good season and a win over Wisconsin.
 
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head1 said:
Based on what? He is in the most fertile area for recruiting there is and hes still not blowing any doors off recruiting nor by winning anything.

Still waiting on someone to tell me what he has done thats so special other than one good season and a win over Wisconsin.
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I'm somewhat with you on this one. I think he is a solid coach. But I have no idea why people think HE is going to be a great recruiter. He's not very charismatic and doesn't have a big history of putting guys in the nfl as far as I know.

I'm sure he could be a good recruiter here, but to me I think A LOT of coaches could do that here
 
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HankHill said:
Dre Kirkpatrick garbage???? Did he pick you off in high school
And Kareem Jackson is Houston's #2 and got an INT last night

What does it matter if you are recruiting juco guys or hs school guys??? I don't understand.
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I'm a bit older than Dre. And anyone in this forum will tell you I will recognize good CB play from any CB no matter what school.

Dre Kirkpatrick was given more help in coverage last year than #13 a first year player is given this year. How many picks did Dre get in 3 years at Bama? I think about two. When Dre was matched up with a top notch WR(Alshon Jeffrey) what happened? He got destroyed. Greg Childs was lighting him up before Mallet lost his mind second half.

Juco or HS guys huh??? We're getting one year out of Sentimore and CP due to grade concerns most good juco kids have. Can't build a program on jucos in the SEC man. I stated that Saban isn't getting as many good HS CBs as you would expect him to get. Not hating but I thought he would've recruited the position much better. It cost him Saturday not having enough CBs to cover the spread.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
I'm a bit older than Dre. And anyone in this forum will tell you I will recognize good CB play from any CB no matter what school.

Dre Kirkpatrick was given more help in coverage last year than #13 a first year player is given this year. How many picks did Dre get in 3 years at Bama? I think about two. When Dre was matched up with a top notch WR(Alshon Jeffrey) what happened? He got destroyed. Greg Childs was lighting him up before Mallet lost his mind second half.

Juco or HS guys huh??? We're getting one year out of Sentimore and CP due to grade concerns most good juco kids have. Can't build a program on jucos in the SEC man. I stated that Saban isn't getting as many good HS CBs as you would expect him to get. Not hating but I thought he would've recruited the position much better. It cost him Saturday not having enough CBs to cover the spread.
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Auburn won a national title building with Juco Guys.

And I trust Mel Kiper, Todd Mcshay, and the Bengals on their take on Dre Kirkpatrick way more than yours.
 
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HankHill said:
if we won the national title this year, I would gladly take a 3 win season in two years
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You can't be serious? It just shows that Chizik is not a good football coach. Malzahn and Cam took that show over. I can barely stand a 6 win season. There is no way I would trade a 3 win season for a NC. JMO
 
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You can't bulid around juco guys point blank. They can be complimentary pieces though. There is a reason they are at a Junior College in the first place.
 
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TriCitiesVol said:
You can't be serious? It just shows that Chizik is not a good football coach. Malzahn and Cam took that show over. I can barely stand a 6 win season. There is no way I would trade a 3 win season for a NC. JMO
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Well we were just on different sides here.

I would take a NC for that.
 
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DooleyNoted24 said:
Florida has statically one of the worst offense in the nation (104 in total offense) and south carlina is 90th. I know the SEC isnt an offensive league but that's pretty bad. So i'm not sure what amazing offenses bama has been avoiding.
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Like I said teams play a bit different for different teams. Florida ran the ball on LSU second half but then they play down versus garbage competition. Ace Sanders would light Bama up and that defense would cause major problems for Bama. So you saying not playing Florida and South Carolina equals playing better offenses is BS. Our offense didn't light Bama up due to coaching(gameplan was terrible) and players not making plays. That's the most overrated defense I've seen. They were saying this defense was better than last year's unit. Laughable......
 
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