Official Jon Gruden Thread IV

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bleedorange0037 said:
I see it the opposite way. If he doesn't have Gruden on the hook, that's all the more reason to make a move on Dooley and get the ball rolling. We are in our current state because we got desperate and settled for scraps last time we hired a coach. The longer we wait, especially with Auburn, Arkansas and maybe others in the market for a coach, the greater the odds we get stuck doing the same this time.
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A) Just because it has not been made official does not mean a coaching seach has not started

B) No coach currently coaching can be contacted by the university. Feelers an be sent out but no direct contact.

C) Gruden nor UT have publicly come forward to deny the Gruden rumors.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
The longer things go today with no news, the more it looks like Hart is just going to sit there with his thumb up his ***, waiting on this loser to try and beat a few cupcakes, and either get stuck with him for another crappy season, or getting leftovers for AT LEAST another 3 years.
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Hate to say it but, if that is the case, Hart needs to pack his bags with Dooley.
 
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GmanTN said:
A) Just because it has not been made official does not mean a coaching seach has not started

B) No coach currently coaching can be contacted by the university. Feelers an be sent out but no direct contact.

C) Gruden nor UT have publicly come forward to deny the Gruden rumors.
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How dare you bring rational thought into this conversation. How dare you.
 
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BruinVol said:
The work looking for a new coach can begin now but all but gruden can't start til December. So with that said there is nothing positive about announcing now if gruden isnt on the hook.
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What are the negatives to being the first and most eager to the coaching market this season? Get our name out there and make it clear we're serious about getting this thing fixed. Riding it out with Dooley for another month sends the opposite message. It's not like there's really anything of value that can still be accomplished this year.
 
#2,882
#2,882
I'm trying to have faith that Hart is smarter than Hammy but boy it is hard when we have mucked it up as much as we have the last few years.
 
#2,884
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Has anyone seen the "Bring Jon Gruden to Tennessee" Facebook page? It has 10,038 followers/likes as of right now. That's pretty hard to ignore I would think.
 
#2,885
#2,885
It would take a chainsaw to cut through the tension present here.

All of the disinformation is part of the process people. You can't just admit to things in this ring of work. They will deny and deny and deny until a name is signed onto that contract
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
What are the negatives to being the first and most eager to the coaching market this season? Get our name out there and make it clear we're serious about getting this thing fixed. Riding it out with Dooley for another month sends the opposite message. It's not like there's really anything of value that can still be accomplished this year.
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I agree, worrying about one recruiting class (a mediocre one at that) is what got us stuck with Dooley in the first place.
 
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If we get bad weather off the storm and it stays until the weekend...the attendance figures could be in the 40k's.

Hart would be forced to go ahead and make whatever move it is that he's waiting on making.

Boosters and fans will have a panic attack at the sight of a more than half empty Neyland.
 
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UTodd01 said:
If we get bad weather off the storm and it stays until the weekend...the attendance figures could be in the 40k's.

Hart would be forced to go ahead and make whatever move it is that he's waiting on making.

Boosters and fans will have a panic attack at the sight of a more than half empty Neyland.
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Then I'm sorry but that is what needs to happen. Go ahead a few of you and call me not a true fan.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
What are the negatives to being the first and most eager to the coaching market this season? Get our name out there and make it clear we're serious about getting this thing fixed. Riding it out with Dooley for another month sends the opposite message. It's not like there's really anything of value that can still be accomplished this year.
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As I said Contact thru agents can happen without an announcement. That is all that would happen until the regular season is over anyway. No university is going to grant permission for their coach to speak with us until the regular season is over anyway.
 
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VOLtownUSA said:
I agree, worrying about one recruiting class (a mediocre one at that) is what got us stuck with Dooley in the first place.
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Oddly enough, that was Dooley's best class. Recruiting was supposed to be his strong suit, but the best he ever did was thanks to LK doing 95% of the work. Since then he's gotten worse every year.
 
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#2,894
There will be a presser today. There is ALWAYS a presser on Mondays. I agree the longer this plays out the more chance we have for things going wrong.

It takes a lot longer than some people realize to work things out, it's not just fire Dooley hire Gruden. If Dooley is announced you have to think about repercussions with other coaches. Even if we hire an interim it doesn't guarantee the other coordinators and position coaches aren't going to jump ship right away for another job. That would obviously leave us in a terrible spot for the rest of this season. Lot's of details will have to be ironed out here.
 
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UTodd01 said:
If we get bad weather off the storm and it stays until the weekend...the attendance figures could be in the 40k's.

Hart would be forced to go ahead and make whatever move it is that he's waiting on making.

Boosters and fans will have a panic attack at the sight of a more than half empty Neyland.
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As of right now, 0% chance of rain Saturday.
 
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Wilson27 said:
Then I'm sorry but that is what needs to happen. Go ahead a few of you and call me not a true fan.
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I'm not gonna say you're not a fan, because of a boycott. I'm just gonna say, as long as there's football being played in Neyland, I'm gonna go watch.
 
#2,897
#2,897
The presser is going to be Dooley talking about what the team needs to work on to beat Troy. No mention of a coaching change or him getting fired. Book it.
 
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orangeslice13 said:
Sad but true.
I still have no confidence the UT administration can get this done.
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Sadly I agree. My confidence level has dropped , the longer NOTHING is said publicly it will continue to do so. The people talking privately are growing too big to not hear something today or tomorrow at the latest. If that doesn't happen, I am kind of fearful for what is coming.

It's obvious Dooley is done, but also obvious there are 50 versions of what is going on amongst those that should know.
 
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BruinVol said:
The work looking for a new coach can begin now but all but gruden can't start til December. So with that said there is nothing positive about announcing now if gruden isnt on the hook.
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If Gruden were agreed in principal, we would have had an announcement by now. This tells me that we are courting currently employed coaches who can not take a job at this time. There is no need to run DD out of town. This allows the AD, boosters, or head hunter firm to their job behind the scenes without outing these coaches. Fire DD and every school with a "hot named" coach will start giving out extensions like candy. This sucks, but it's the way things are done. Gruden is still in the mix I'm sure.
 
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