Mac vs PC (split)

#76
#76
Slowly started sinking into the Apple eco system in 06 with my first classic iPod, then a touch in 08, when it came time to get a nice new up to date computer I finally made the desktop leap last summer with an iMac. By Christmas I had an iPhone and then got an iPad in the spring. I haven't turned on my 5 year old Windows 7 Toshiba Satellite in over 2 months.

I love OSX. It just flows so much smoother so I feel more productive. Even though I'm on a desktop I don't bother with the mouse I just use the trackpad. I fly through the system using swipe gestures. And you can't beat the synchronization of iCloud (we'll see what Windows 8 does). I'm looking forward to the Mountain Lion update and the inclusion of some iOS features.

I bought my iMac on tax free holiday which saved about $200. I used the education discount to save $100 and also got a $100 appstore gift card and a free $100 HP all-in one printer. Saved an additional $180 by upgrading the RAM through a different vendor who sold the exact same Samsung memory that came installed on iMac. I pulled the two 2GB sticks out, plugged in four 8GB sticks, then sold the original two sticks to a buddy for $25.

By the way, the OSX upgrade will probably be $29 compared to upgrading a Windows machine for over $100 or more depending on the incremental version. Another thing to consider is software, if you download it from Apple's Appstore you can then upload to as many Macs as you want and that includes OSX upgrades. I've installed iLife on a few friends Macs.
 
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#77
#77
I've used PC's for so long at work and I feel so comfortable with them, I just don't feel paying extra for an Apple computer is worth it.
 
#78
#78
Put 2 computer side by side, the two things I really care about, what is the processor and how much RAM it has. That's what matters. The windows OS is fine, I'm probably more comfortable with it just from years of using it. I don't see paying more for an Apple computer unless they are offering a better processor for the money. Not worth it.
 
#79
#79
Vercingetorix said:
A $600 laptop is a plasticky piece of crap. An Apple laptop is a sturdy, well-built solid piece of aluminum.
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You can't run the software I run at work on a Mac. It doesn't have the processing speed or work with the MAC OS. Most high end computering software is built for windows not Mac's.
 
#80
#80
My desktop would cost over $3500 if you wanted to match the same power in a Mac - if they even are able to put half the stuff in that I have. PC > Mac... But I do like iPhones and iPod's.
 
#81
#81
The only reason to get a Mac In my opinion is for their superior movie editing software... So if you work in Hollywood you need a Mac.
 
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WA_Vol said:
You can't run the software I run at work on a Mac. It doesn't have the processing speed or work with the MAC OS. Most high end computering software is built for windows not Mac's.
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What kind of hardware do you need for the software you run that you can't get on a Mac? You can always use bootcamp to run Windows on a Mac for any incompatable software. I know a guy that does that for his work.

On a side note, i actually like useing MS office on my Mac better than my PC. I also have the iLife programs which I like better in some cases. If you want a sharp, eye catching presentation Keynote blows PowerPoint out of the water
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
What kind of hardware do you need for the software you run that you can't get on a Mac? You can always use bootcamp to run Windows on a Mac for any incompatable software. I know a guy that does that for his work.

On a side note, i actually like useing MS office on my Mac better than my PC. I also have the iLife programs which I like better in some cases. If you want a sharp, eye catching presentation Keynote blows PowerPoint out of the water
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CATIA & Fibersim
 
#84
#84
I see FiberSIM is available on Mac but what kind of hardware limitations prevent it from running on a Mac. And again, yuo can always use bootcamp for any Windows only software needs. I just don't get the lack of hardware argument. You could always get a Mac Pro desktop with up to two 2.93GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon “Westmere” (12 cores) and 64GB of RAM if you really need something that a Macbook or iMac can't give you. Granted it will cost you around $10k but the hardware is there.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I see FiberSIM is available on Mac but what kind of hardware limitations prevent it from running on a Mac. And again, yuo can always use bootcamp for any Windows only software needs. I just don't get the lack of hardware argument. You could always get a Mac Pro desktop with up to two 2.93GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon “Westmere” (12 cores) and 64GB of RAM if you really need something that a Macbook or iMac can't give you. Granted it will cost you around $10k but the hardware is there.
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lol - and how many people are going to drop 10k when they can get the same fo 3k?
 
#86
#86
Ahhh, you guys that complain about Apple probably have no need for a Mac!

It's not for everyone, but for the people it is built for, it's absoluely perfect. This is coming from a former PC owner and Apple skeptic. I still have had more experience with PCs than Macs at this point, but the difference for my needs is astounding.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
lol - and how many people are going to drop 10k when they can get the same fo 3k?
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You would pay $3k for the processors alone and another $3k for the RAM if you built a windows machine with that much power.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Ahhh, you guys that complain about Apple probably have no need for a Mac!

It's not for everyone, but for the people it is built for, it's absolutely perfect. This is coming from a former PC owner and Apple skeptic. I still have had more experience with PCs than Macs at this point, but the difference for my needs is astounding.
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100% agree!
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
You would pay $3k for the processors alone and another $3k for the RAM if you built a windows machine with that much power.
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Also - who would ever need that much power outside of a business? And point still stands that you can build the same PC for half the price as a Mac or a nearly twice as fast PC for the same amount of money you spend on a Mac - plus you aren't pigeonholed when upgrading.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Also - who would ever need that much power outside of a business? And point still stands that you can build the same PC for half the price as a Mac or a nearly twice as fast PC for the same amount of money you spend on a Mac - plus you aren't pigeonholed when upgrading.
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My point was that the hardware is there to do anything you want. The RAM quote was a quick google search which showed $3.5-$5k on new egg. I under stated because I know you can find it cheaper.

If price is your problem with Mac I get that. It took me 3 years of window shopping Macs before I finally took the leap. Like others have said on here you get what you pay for in a quality product.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
My point was that the hardware is there to do anything you want. The RAM quote was a quick google search which showed $3.5-$5k on new egg. I under stated because I know you can find it cheaper.

If price is your problem with Mac I get that. It took me 3 years of window shopping Macs before I finally took the leap. Like others have said on here you get what you pay for in a quality product.
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No you don't. I build my own PCs and have better performance for less price - so how are you getting what you pay for when I pay less?
 
#93
#93
Maybe with laptops - just due to the sheer tinyness of the Macs... But I go with Asus laptops for a decently powered machine that can play games when I don't want to use my desktop.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
No you don't. I build my own PCs and have better performance for less price - so how are you getting what you pay for when I pay less?
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Quality is not just about performance, not that Macs lack that by any means. I could build a coffee table for half the price of what Ashley might sell me one for amd get the same performance out of it.

Macs are designed with more care than any home built machine. Steve Jobs cared about the inside of the casing that you never see as much as the outside. I've known plenty of people that build tower PCs but none look as elegant as an iMac. I have one cord running from my desk to an outlet and that's it. Yes I paid a little more than an all-in-one HP from SAMs club but aesthetically it looks Breyer sitting ony desk.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, when Mountain Lion comes out this summer it will only be $30 to upgrade where as Windows 8 will probably be over $100 for a stripped down home edition.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Quality is not just about performance, not that Macs lack that by any means. I could build a coffee table for half the price of what Ashley might sell me one for amd get the same performance out of it.

Macs are designed with more care than any home built machine. Steve Jobs cared about the inside of the casing that you never see as much as the outside. I've known plenty of people that build tower PCs but none look as elegant as an iMac. I have one cord running from my desk to an outlet and that's it. Yes I paid a little more than an all-in-one HP from SAMs club but aesthetically it looks Breyer sitting ony desk.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, when Mountain Lion comes out this summer it will only be $30 to upgrade where as Windows 8 will probably be over $100 for a stripped down home edition.
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I don't care because I'll pirate windows 8 anyway.

My casing on my home built PC beautiful anyway - the case alone was $200. And I would wager it had more "care" than a machine made in a factory. And good luck adding things like an avermedia capture HD capture card or anything PCI that are basically invaluable to anyone who uses computers often to that thing - and goodluck upgrading it.

Also - my tower isn't even visible - so why should I care that it does anything other than stay cool and keep things in place? Although I does look pretty neat with the blue LEDs so I don't mind if it's exposed. The only visible things are my Samsung monitors, razer mouse, and razer keyboard.
 
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#96
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You can get a PCI card on a MacPro desktop. As for video capture, are you really going to say that is a weakness for Macs when most in the video industry use Macs including Pixar and ILM?
 
#97
#97
pretty sure you aren't understanding correctly - I'm talking about video capture cards - used on sites like twitch.tv to live stream their xbox and ps3 game play.

And I was referring to the all in one Macs in regards to the PCI.
 
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govols1864 said:
Which one is better for photo editing?
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iPhoto is a nice stock program for some basic editing and it is easy to figure out with no real experience. In fact, the iPhoto app for iOS is pretty good as well. Aperture is an advanced version of iphoto and is supposed to be very nice but I've never used it.

Photoshop works well on both platforms but it doesnt have a very intuitive interface for beginners. When you look up tutorials for on YouTube for Photoshop people generally tend to be on Macs. Likewise books tend to be written for Macs too but always include Windows directions in parentheses. I don't think that means Photoshop works better on Macs but seems to be the preference of most professionals.
 
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govols1864 said:
Which one is better for photo editing?
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generally any photo/video editing is easier on Macs - generally stuff like adobe after effects and stuff like that runs better in windows.. but Mac has their own OS specific software that movie editors in Hollywood use.. but unless you are in to hardcore pirating or have thousands of dollars to spend on that software - stuff like adobe CS collection and Mac specific software - it likely won't really matter.
 
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