'12 JUCO DE Denico Autry (MSU signee)

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HialeahGator said:
"Alabama, Mississippi State, and Auburn stand out to me. I’d say Alabama and Mississippi State are recruiting me the hardest right now.”
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Guess we're not recruiting this guy hard enough. Sounds like Dooley and Staff need to get on the stick unless they have better prospects in the bag.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
Guess we're not recruiting this guy hard enough. Sounds like Dooley and Staff need to get on the stick unless they have better prospects in the bag.
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Im really starting to think this isnt the case. The "multiple visit" crap and "visit everybody else before you commit" crap is gonna come back to bite us.
 
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how many DT/DE offers does Bama have out? I can name about 10-12 kids that has Bama in their Top 3-5. Unreal....that's coming from a Gator. lol
 
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HialeahGator said:
how many DT/DE offers does Bama have out? I can name about 10-12 kids that has Bama in their Top 3-5. Unreal....that's coming from a Gator. lol
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It is starting to look like if Bama, LSU, AU, UF, UGA, UM, Ole Miss, MSU, and Vandy all run out of spots for DTs..then the Vols will start reeling them in!! Good News!!
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
No doubt the front 7 is a huge piority to them. The question is can they land the talent needed there to be able to legitimately compete for championships over the next several years? They are going to have to be able to.
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HialeahGator said:
"Alabama, Mississippi State, and Auburn stand out to me. I’d say Alabama and Mississippi State are recruiting me the hardest right now.”
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checkerboards09 said:
Im really starting to think this isnt the case. The "multiple visit" crap and "visit everybody else before you commit" crap is gonna come back to bite us.
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This is starting to get ridiculous. You have to be able to sell playing time in the SEC. Come to our school, start in a better than decent defense and start early in the SEC. You can be noticed by the NFL here. Surely this is part of their pitch?????
 
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BigRed said:
This is starting to get ridiculous. You have to be able to sell playing time in the SEC. Come to our school, start in a better than decent defense and start early in the SEC. You can be noticed by the NFL here. Surely this is part of their pitch?????
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The only thing I can see that would cause recruits to question Tennessee and the DL we produce here is that there have not been many head to the NFL or play well there of late. Yes, Dan Williams was drafted pretty high...but he has not been talked about much. You can point to Haynesworth and Henderson but they were 10 years ago. With other SEC teams putting 3-4-5 DL guys a year in the NFL...maybe that selling point is just to much for our staff to over come. Maybe a recruit thinks he could have a better future playing 1-2 years at Bama or LSU VS starting 3-4 years at Tennessee. Hard to accept...but maybe it could be part of the problem. Obviously something is off....
 
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PaceFLVol said:
It is starting to look like if Bama, LSU, AU, UF, UGA, UM, Ole Miss, MSU, and Vandy all run out of spots for DTs..then the Vols will start reeling them in!! Good News!!
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Hmm, looks like a LaTech recruiting tactic.
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#110
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BigOrangeD said:
Guess we're not recruiting this guy hard enough. Sounds like Dooley and Staff need to get on the stick unless they have better prospects in the bag.
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I doubt they have a better prospect in the bag than Autry at DE. Some staff's just work harder in recruiting than others. That isn't saying all staff's dont work hard but some put in 24/7 type work to land talent. Just look at what Clemson has done the last few years. They are getting elite talent now without having great records or on-field results to sell.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I doubt they have a better prospect in the bag than Autry at DE. Some staff's just work harder in recruiting than others. That isn't saying all staff's dont work hard but some put in 24/7 type work to land talent. Just look at what Clemson has done the last few years. They are getting elite talent now without having great records or on-field results to sell.
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I am starting to get annoyed. We lose out on a highly ranked recruit to LSU, Bama because they are winning or they are from that state. Fine.

But to hear that we aren't in the top group of schools actively recruiting a top talent the hardest, which seems to be coming out more and more, is unacceptable. We should be working 2 times as hard as Bama, Auburns, LSU's, FL's, ect's staffs....but it seems like the opposite.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Just look at what Clemson has done the last few years. They are getting elite talent now without having great records or on-field results to sell.
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Yeah, just look at what Clemson is doing... Chevy Camaros and stacks of money. Maybe Dooley should do the same thing. :crazy:


Montrell, you and Pace are on the same wavelength. Maybe Dooley should hire you two as consultants to straighten him out. Why, you two might as well friend each other on Facebook.:boobies:
 
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HSVol said:
Yeah, just look at what Clemson is doing... Chevy Camaros and stacks of money. Maybe Dooley should do the same thing. :crazy:


Montrell, you and Pace are on the same wavelength. Maybe Dooley should hire you two as consultants to straighten him out. Why, you two might as well friend each other on Facebook.:boobies:
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Kevin Steele is a monster recruiter. Our staff not recruiting the hardest or not being mentioned as one of the hardest recruiting staffs is getting kinda old. We're recruiting Patterson the hardest but not this D-lineman huh? This is crazy...... it is what it is.
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The Breakerboy said:
Kevin Steele is a monster recruiter. Our staff not recruiting the hardest or not being mentioned as one of the hardest recruiting staffs is getting kinda old. We're recruiting Patterson the hardest but not this D-lineman huh? This is crazy...... it is what it is.
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I would imagine that alot of recruits are turned off by our methods. While alot of top notch recruiters use the "hot sauce" method and being flashy seems to work for them...CDD said he would not. He seems to think that asking the kids to visit 3-4 times to be allowed to commit is going to work. We seem to do alright with offensive recruits..its the defensive guys that are not seeing the opportunity at Tennessee. I know Sirmon is new to recruiting and I would guess Wilcox is having trouble getting adjusted as it's alot tougher to pull a 4 star kid out of Georgia than it is a 2 star out of Twin Falls Idaho.
 
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HSVol said:
Yeah, just look at what Clemson is doing... Chevy Camaros and stacks of money. Maybe Dooley should do the same thing. :crazy:


Montrell, you and Pace are on the same wavelength. Maybe Dooley should hire you two as consultants to straighten him out. Why, you two might as well friend each other on Facebook.:boobies:
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Sorry, I have never got into the whole Facebook thing. As for trying to persude me to accept a position on UT's coaching staff I would have to decline. I would imagine when CDD saw the tractor trailer backing into the loading dock with 26 pallets of "Hot Sauce"...he would question my tactics. As I stated before..I have no doubt that once all the other SEC teams fill up...there will be alot of "solid" diamonds in the rough to pick from. I have no doubt they will ALL be very under rated and we can all question Rivals and Scout as to why they hate the Vols and will not move our class to a top 15 standing. GO VOLS!!
 
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PaceFLVol said:
Sorry, I have never got into the whole Facebook thing. As for trying to persude me to accept a position on UT's coaching staff I would have to decline. I would imagine when CDD saw the tractor trailer backing into the loading dock with 26 pallets of "Hot Sauce"...he would question my tactics. As I stated before..I have no doubt that once all the other SEC teams fill up...there will be alot of "solid" diamonds in the rough to pick from. I have no doubt they will ALL be very under rated and we can all question Rivals and Scout as to why they hate the Vols and will not move our class to a top 15 standing. GO VOLS!!
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This is truth. Anyone who calls it "Facebook thing" or "the facebook". Is outta the loop
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#117
If CDD is truly trying to rebuild the program you do it from ground up and not bring in a guy for the most 2 years. You create a foundation and build on it with players like J James. Yes JUCOs bring quick fixes but do not solve the problem long term.

JUCO may bring 1 or 2 more wins a season but if UT wants to get back to the top JUCOs will not do it alone. JUCOs are good when you have all of talent and you need a plug but as a cornerstone and I think UT would want a player that would be there atleast 3 years.Again JMO.

And before someone says what about AU with Cam and Nick lets not kid ourselves about all the other talent around them. Whcih will be very apparant this year with so much gone.
 
#118
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Thanks for all the help. Now please go back to your own boards. Coach Dooley is a capable man. Doesnt need any help from BAMRs
 
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TideWarrior said:
If CDD is truly trying to rebuild the program you do it from ground up and not bring in a guy for the most 2 years. You create a foundation and build on it with players like J James. Yes JUCOs bring quick fixes but do not solve the problem long term.

JUCO may bring 1 or 2 more wins a season but if UT wants to get back to the top JUCOs will not do it alone. JUCOs are good when you have all of talent and you need a plug but as a cornerstone and I think UT would want a player that would be there atleast 3 years.Again JMO.

And before someone says what about AU with Cam and Nick lets not kid ourselves about all the other talent around them. Whcih will be very apparant this year with so much gone.
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While I do agree with you that you don't build a program with JUCO's, I will defend CDD in that this program was depleted and with the mess that went on for the last two years many recruits are going to be hesitant until you prove yourself. In our situation here he may have to fill holes with JUCO's until we have a good winning season. JMO
 
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Orange Studs said:
While I do agree with you that you don't build a program with JUCO's, I will defend CDD in that this program was depleted and with the mess that went on for the last two years many recruits are going to be hesitant until you prove yourself. In our situation here he may have to fill holes with JUCO's until we have a good winning season. JMO
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I concur but my point I guess I should say would UT rather land some top JUCO DL players or top HS DL players. Especially with limited space each class where should the resources be focused. A player that only has 2 years before they are replaced or a player that has 4 years and so other positions can also be filled in those next years as to filling each year with the same position.

I just see UT much like UA after Shula with a need at alot of different positions. Not saying Autry would not be a great addition and I am sure CDD would add him. I just think they may be directing more of their recruiting resources for players like Jenkins, Shanks, and other top HS prospects first.

Also Aurty said he will not make a decision until Nov probably so UT still has time if others go elsewhere. The other schools he said that were recruiting him the hardest have the luxury to go after a JUCO this early and who even knows by the time he is ready to commit spots at some of these school who are feeling up quickly will probably be gone.
 
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TideWarrior said:
I concur but my point I guess I should say would UT rather land some top JUCO DL players or top HS DL players. Especially with limited space each class where should the resources be focused. A player that only has 2 years before they are replaced or a player that has 4 years and so other positions can also be filled in those next years as to filling each year with the same position.

I just see UT much like UA after Shula with a need at alot of different positions. Not saying Autry would not be a great addition and I am sure CDD would add him. I just think they may be directing more of their recruiting resources for players like Jenkins, Shanks, and other top HS prospects first.

Also Aurty said he will not make a decision until Nov probably so UT still has time if others go elsewhere. The other schools he said that were recruiting him the hardest have the luxury to go after a JUCO this early and who even knows by the time he is ready to commit spots at some of these school who are feeling up quickly will probably be gone.
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No doubt I would rather see HS recruits over JUCO's and I think you right about CDD and staff are directing there attention to HS recruits. You guys can identify with us more than most programs. Its frustrating trying to get a program back to the top after you hit rock bottom and I think we fans here at UT forget just how bad it is and how long its going to take to get back.
 
#123
#123
I would tend to think CDD may be after some Juco talent as he needs guys to compete for playing time NOW and it appears the top HS talent is not looking toward Tenenssee. We had a losing record last year...if it happens again this year...CDD will be on the hot seat. I am not sure he has time to develop 4-5 recruiting classes before he would be sent packing. JMO
 
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#124
PaceFLVol said:
I would tend to think CDD may be after some Juco talent as he needs guys to compete for playing time NOW and it appears the top HS talent is not looking toward Tenenssee. We had a losing record last year...if it happens again this year...CDD will be on the hot seat. I am not sure he has time to develop 4-5 recruiting classes before he would be sent packing. JMO
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I think UT brought him in to stay the course. Especially with the NCAA still looming and the lack of resources left after the last 2 years I think UT understands they may have very few options for replacing him. CDD seems to be the type of coach that no matter what happens will stay and see it through and I think UT hired based on that.

The fans may not like the results if slow but the school is not only rebuilding the football program but the image.
 
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TideWarrior said:
I think UT brought him in to stay the course. Especially with the NCAA still looming and the lack of resources left after the last 2 years I think UT understands they may have very few options for replacing him. CDD seems to be the type of coach that no matter what happens will stay and see it through and I think UT hired based on that.

The fans may not like the results if slow but the school is not only rebuilding the foorball program but the image.
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Tennessee will not put up with a losing for long no matter how good the image is. Just ask CPF.
 
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