2026 Vols Transfer Portal Thread

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Ttucke11 said:
It was a positive, joking post. But for instance Rubin had a higher assist rate than Nate. Nate could get his own shot due to his height, but it'll be nice to see 4 guys who can all create for each other.
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Ah...got it. Somehow missed the point of creating and thought you were referring to getting a bucket.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Right, I mentioned they would, there’s circumstances that can change things…but when dealing with the bulk of the roster and additions they are adhering to a system and a “budget”, they aren’t able to just go and add Diop, or overpay for a Hastings…outside of some big time guys they’ve for the most part got a budget to stick to.
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I mean, you literally just said a few hours ago that you felt they only had money for 1 of 3 (Tanner, Ament, and Juke) in an attempt to seemingly disqualify my suggestion of a fairly open-ended budget. This seems like quite the walk-back.
 
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Vol49er said:
Is Lue and Hastings not a bit redundant? I’m going to want Haralson playing the 4 as much as possible bc none of our other 4s or 5s, including potentially Hastings and Lue, can shoot threes. Don’t want three guys on the court at the same time who can’t space the floor

Harris, Hastings/Lue, and either a true PG or a backup wing would be my preference
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Watch Lue’s highlights. He can shoot threes when the opportunity presents itself.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I mean, you literally just said a few hours ago that you felt they only had money for 1 of 3 (Tanner, Ament, and Juke) in an attempt to seemingly disqualify my suggestion of a fairly open-ended budget. This seems like quite the walk-back.
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Thought you didn’t want to go down the rabbit hole, if you’re just going to bow out I’m not going to bother with a thought out response…
 
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cncchris33 said:
I mean, you literally just said a few hours ago that you felt they only had money for 1 of 3 (Tanner, Ament, and Juke) in an attempt to seemingly disqualify my suggestion of a fairly open-ended budget. This seems like quite the walk-back.
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I’ll try my best to explain what I meant, again, I wasn’t gonna go in depth and take time putting it all together for you to jjust say “nevermind” and ignore me…

In the unlikely event a Tanner entered the portal, there would have been some requests made from Barnes and DW to some high level boosters for money essentially outside our current budget, that obviously didn’t happen. I’m skeptical if Ament opted to return that they would’ve pursued both he and Juke, if they would’ve it would have been the same scenario, but again I don’t think that situation was every likely at all to be in it for both Juke & Ament.

Outside of those couple of big names, which are names Barnes covets and that thought has been conveyed to high level donors, there wasn’t really anyone else out there that would get the same kind of treatment from the staff. They opted for Hill at PG, not an Isaiah Johnson who was much more expensive. They opted for Ames at SG, not Blackwell. They opted to Rubin & Lue in the post, not a Bidunga & Thiam. They opted for a Lundblade, not walk a Momcilovic into the portal etc etc.

Again, outside of a couple of names that the likelihood of even being realistic options can be debated the budget while not a hard salary cap, had a general limit to it, and the staff has worked within those parameters. Could Rick have gone to some folks and stood on a table to get an extra $2m to land Hastings over Lue, probably so, but to he and the staff they viewed those guys pretty similar from a value standpoint, and if things get into a bidding war with Juke maybe he rather have that $2m still sitting there waiting on him I would think.

I don’t know the exact number, but there was a general number the staff was given to work with for the bulk of their class, and that’s been what they’ve operated under this whole time. There are a few guys like I mentioned that had they come available would’ve caused a conversation to be had, much like what we saw with Ament last year, but that never came to fruition and thus they are still sticking to that general budget given.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I’ll try my best to explain what I meant, again, I wasn’t gonna go in depth and take time putting it all together for you to jjust say “nevermind” and ignore me…

In the unlikely event a Tanner entered the portal, there would have been some requests made from Barnes and DW to some high level boosters for money essentially outside our current budget, that obviously didn’t happen. I’m skeptical if Ament opted to return that they would’ve pursued both he and Juke, if they would’ve it would have been the same scenario, but again I don’t think that situation was every likely at all to be in it for both Juke & Ament.

Outside of those couple of big names, which are names Barnes covets and that thought has been conveyed to high level donors, there wasn’t really anyone else out there that would get the same kind of treatment from the staff. They opted for Hill at PG, not an Isaiah Johnson who was much more expensive. They opted for Ames at SG, not Blackwell. They opted to Rubin & Lue in the post, not a Bidunga & Thiam. They opted for a Lundblade, not walk a Momcilovic into the portal etc etc.

Again, outside of a couple of names that the likelihood of even being realistic options can be debated the budget while not a hard salary cap, had a general limit to it, and the staff has worked within those parameters. Could Rick have gone to some folks and stood on a table to get an extra $2m to land Hastings over Lue, probably so, but to he and the staff they viewed those guys pretty similar from a value standpoint, and if things get into a bidding war with Juke maybe he rather have that $2m still sitting there waiting on him I would think.

I don’t know the exact number, but there was a general number the staff was given to work with for the bulk of their class, and that’s been what they’ve operated under this whole time. There are a few guys like I mentioned that had they come available would’ve caused a conversation to be had, much like what we saw with Ament last year, but that never came to fruition and thus they are still sticking to that general budget given.
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This is really just a wordier restatement of your reply to Stoerner, which was only prompted by him politely correcting you. And it's OK to be wrong about something. I'm wrong everyday.

The rabbit hole I wasn't interested going down was you just dissecting every vowel and consonant of my use of the phrase "open-ended budget."

I understand what you are saying in this post, but again, this is far more liberal and inclusive than your previous opinion. In fact, it's basically a long-form written statement of my idea of what this year's open-ended budget would look like. I've never once been the guy who just says go pay the highest price at every position, cost be damned. I know that we'll look for value where we can find it and spend money where we think its necessary.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Would you trade our 3 posts (Brown, Rubin & Lue) for JP? It’s easy to say what you said above when you aren’t considering $$$
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i think to many players get lost in the fact that a player is coming from a non power four school and that instantly tags them as not any good. We had enough of an example of what we get with JP and Cade. Cade was a lob or nothing on offense. JP was a jump hook and some rebounds and nothing else. These guys will change their mind when they see what the new guys can actually do with talent around them.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
What if I say Hastings would’ve costed 3x as much?
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cncchris33 said:
Doesn't really affect my opinion as it isn't my money and we aren't bound by a salary cap. But theoretically, if cost mattered, then sure, give me Lue.
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bleedingTNorange said:
Not bound by a salary cap, but we do have a “budget”
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cncchris33 said:
The budget has felt rather open-ended based on who we are landing and still pursuing, but I digress. Like I said, if we are now watching the bottom-line, then give me Lue. I'm not really willing to bang the table and stand up in preference of Hastings.
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cncchris33 said:
This is really just a wordier restatement of your reply to Stoerner, which was only prompted by him politely correcting you. And it's OK to be wrong about something. I'm wrong everyday.

The rabbit hole I wasn't interested going down was you just dissecting every vowel and consonant of my use of the phrase "open-ended budget."

I understand what you are saying in this post, but again, this is far more liberal and inclusive than your previous opinion. In fact, it's basically a long-form written statement of my idea of what this year's open-ended budget would look like. I've never once been the guy who just says go pay the highest price at every position, cost be damned. I know that we'll look for value where we can find it and spend money where we think it’s necessary.
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To me the above read that you didn’t really seem to think money mattered or that we were bound at all by a budget, and that’s where I pushed back. I don’t think my recent long response means anything different than my initial, but yes it is more detailed and explanatory, something I don’t usually do on here because nobody typically reads all of it anyways lol.

A simply way to put it is that we have 16 roster spots, I think for 15 of those they were pretty much sticking to a general budget, not an open ended one that could be moved a whole lot. For that 1 final spot they had benchmarked a good bit of money, but that’s also the spot for a Juke, or a less likely Ament or an even less likely Tanner…it’s a spot and a dollar amount that can move quite a bit, it also is not open ended, but when you attach a known face to it boosters are more willing to keep going, I don’t see that across the other 15 spots which again is why I laughed when legion would say we’ve got $13m and should go get 3 top 10 players, it wasn’t reality.

Maybe we were saying the same thing all along, idk, I don’t consider our budget to be open ended for the reasons I’ve listed above, especially when it comes to Hastings vs. Lue which is where this conversation started at.
 
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cwbytruckers said:
i think to many players get lost in the fact that a player is coming from a non power four school and that instantly tags them as not any good. We had enough of an example of what we get with JP and Cade. Cade was a lob or nothing on offense. JP was a jump hook and some rebounds and nothing else. These guys will change their mind when they see what the new guys can actually do with talent around them.
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I won’t claim to know what these guys will do, we’ve seen highly thought of transfers bust and lowly thought of transfers hit. My point was that Estrella wanted a good chunk of money, probably top dollar money on this current roster, I’m not sure that I see the value there.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I won’t claim to know what these guys will do, we’ve seen highly thought of transfers bust and lowly thought of transfers hit. My point was that Estrella wanted a good chunk of money, probably top dollar money on this current roster, I’m not sure that I see the value there.
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In my opinion which isnt worth a heal of beans but i think JP just didnt bring much on the defensive end but fouls. So much potential on the offensive end. Maybe a change of scenery is just what the doctor ordered for him. But i like more athletic shot blockers that can go finish and not be soft around the rim. I hope thats what we are getting.
 
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