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Tin Man said:
I remember the news report of testing driverless cars with safety drivers riding along. One safety driver got distracted, and the car ran over a woman in a crosswalk who had the right of way (she didn’t die).

I also recall a report on the testing of driverless semis with safety drivers riding along. While being filmed for the report, the safety driver was very attentive. Are current safety drivers as attentive?

Given the hiccups with driverless cars, are we really ready for 80,000 lb driverless semis (outside of Texas)?
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doesn't sound much worse than the current drivers. The anecdotal stories of AI don't bother me, because humans do a really good job of that on there on, and are getting worse.

I would like to see a substantial study, that probably isn't even possible right now, comparing a decent number of both human and AI vehicles and how they do in the real world and compare them.

3.5 out of 100,000 AI vehicles crashing doesn't scare me much if the average is 5 out of 100,000 human driven vehicles.
 
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OHvol40 said:
“Fascist regimes shrink and ultimately collapse due to inherent, unsustainable flaws: aggressive militarism leading to devastating foreign wars, economic instability from forced autarky (self-sufficiency), and the destruction of domestic institutions that creates brittle, unpopular governance
. These regimes collapse when military failure meets internal revolt”
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you can have the same breakdown for any autocratic government. the USSR fell pretty much the exact same way.
 
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LouderVol said:
doesn't sound much worse than the current drivers. The anecdotal stories of AI don't bother me, because humans do a really good job of that on there on, and are getting worse.

I would like to see a substantial study, that probably isn't even possible right now, comparing a decent number of both human and AI vehicles and how they do in the real world and compare them.

3.5 out of 100,000 AI vehicles crashing doesn't scare me much if the average is 5 out of 100,000 human driven vehicles.
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FWIW
 
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OrangeTsar said:
I thought you libs said “no one is above the law”? Is it or is it not illegal to be here without permission? So do you support the law or don’t you?
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The pharisees supported a literal interpretation if the law? Do you support the murder of jesus? Jesus commandment was about looking beyond the letter of the law to the spirit and meaning of the words. Unless you're bigoted nazi trash, you dont support the way the laws are being enforced by ice.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
HEHEHEHEHEHEH, I have fantasies too, and while I don't disagree 101% Trump is too AntiChrist for me.
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There have been times when I have wondered if he might actually be. His unmatched Pride disturbs me the most. Like I have said, I have never voted for the man in any primary. I just wish the democrat party wasn’t so cray cray and actually put up some normal human beings as an option. I voted for Clinton twice. Unfortunately, no moderate has a prayer of getting nominated on that side until they send the cuckoo bird wing of the party packing
 
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jvol1 said:
The pharisees supported a literal interpretation if the law? Do you support the murder of jesus? Jesus commandment was about looking beyond the letter of the law to the spirit and meaning of the words. Unless you're bigoted nazi trash, you dont support the way the laws are being enforced by ice.
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FWIW; over 3 million people were deported by ICE under Obama and no one complained much.
The only difference of course then was that “sanctuary cities” weren’t a thing the. And local la enforcement actually cooperated with ICE making things much less confrontational.
So is this a question as to “the letter of the law”? The letter and SPIRIT of the law are identical in this case. You have to have permission to be here.

Just the same way i couldn’t barge into your home and kitchen without you inviting me.

Either a country has borders or it does not, in which case it ceases to be a country at all.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
There have been times when I have wondered if he might actually be. His unmatched Pride disturbs me the most. Like I have said, I have never voted for the man in any primary. I just wish the democrat party wasn’t so cray cray and actually put up some normal human beings as an option. I voted for Clinton twice. Unfortunately, no moderate has a prayer of getting nominated on that side until they send the cuckoo bird wing of the party packing
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You and I largely walk on the same path, except I'm not a party loyalist. I vote as I can for someone who is mainly Biblical, and Constitutional. In short, I research them, and vote for who I believe is the lesser evil. I knew what Trump was, shortly after I figured as a businessman, he was likely what the country needed. But then, the more he talked, the more I knew he was one of the worst options as President since either Andrew Johnson or James Buchanan, and bordered on what I thought the time as demonic, and now believe he actually is demonic. He's going to ruin the USA, to Putin's glee.
 
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LouderVol said:
doesn't sound much worse than the current drivers. The anecdotal stories of AI don't bother me, because humans do a really good job of that on there on, and are getting worse.

I would like to see a substantial study, that probably isn't even possible right now, comparing a decent number of both human and AI vehicles and how they do in the real world and compare them.

3.5 out of 100,000 AI vehicles crashing doesn't scare me much if the average is 5 out of 100,000 human driven vehicles.
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Any idea what the at fault accident rate is for AI vehicles?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
FWIW; over 3 million people were deported by ICE under Obama and no one complained much.
The only difference of course then was that “sanctuary cities” weren’t a thing the. And local la enforcement actually cooperated with ICE making things much less confrontational.
So is this a question as to “the letter of the law”? The letter and SPIRIT of the law are identical in this case. You have to have permission to be here.

Just the same way i couldn’t barge into your home and kitchen without you inviting me.

Either a country has borders or it does not, in which case it ceases to be a country at all.
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FWIW, have you read any of the numerous posts about the conditions ice detention centers, abuse during arrests, murders and mistreatment of both citizens and non-citizens? That's not the spirit of the law.

And from a higher perspective, have you paid any attention to the fact that the many of the people being deported are law abiding and providing meaningful economic contribution to our country? It's just plain racist to not give people like that a chance. Also not the spirit of the law. WWJD?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
FWIW; over 3 million people were deported by ICE under Obama and no one complained much.
The only difference of course then was that “sanctuary cities” weren’t a thing the. And local la enforcement actually cooperated with ICE making things much less confrontational.
So is this a question as to “the letter of the law”? The letter and SPIRIT of the law are identical in this case. You have to have permission to be here.

Just the same way i couldn’t barge into your home and kitchen without you inviting me.

Either a country has borders or it does not, in which case it ceases to be a country at all.
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Obama numbers aren't really correct. Convenient but measured much differently

You also didn't see HD round ups or street blockades to arrest the gardener. Trump could make a huge impact by just quietly working with the states supporting the policy and implementing ideas that would make it very hard for others here illegally. He wants the fight which is just stupid
 
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jvol1 said:
FWIW, have you read any of the numerous posts about the conditions ice detention centers, abuse during arrests, murders and mistreatment of both citizens and non-citizens? That's not the spirit of the law.

And from a higher perspective, have you paid any attention to the fact that the many of the people being deported are law abiding and providing meaningful economic contribution to our country? It's just plain racist to not give people like that a chance. Also not the spirit of the law. WWJD?
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It's not racist to enforce immigration laws, people know what the laws are and choose to follow them or not, but can't expect to be free from consequences if they don't
 
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utvolpj said:
Obama numbers aren't really correct. Convenient but measured much differently

You also didn't see HD round ups or street blockades to arrest the gardener. Trump could make a huge impact by just quietly working with the states supporting the policy and implementing ideas that would make it very hard for others here illegally. He wants the fight which is just stupid
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You are right and wrong here.

I agree that Obama did it "quieter" and didn't go after the gardener, but also Trump can't "quietly work with the states" because 19 blue states, the Dems in general and the MSM have done a 180 about illegal immigration and ICE and work to block most any enforcement or deportations, even with violent felons
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You are right and wrong here.

I agree that Obama did it "quieter" and didn't go after the gardener, but also Trump can't "quietly work with the states" because 19 blue states, the Dems in general and the MSM have done a 180 about illegal immigration and ICE and work to block most any enforcement or deportations, even with violent felons
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Ok then concentrate the deportation efforts on the 31 and on implementing policy that negatively affects all of them in the US. Eventually those communities will fail or they will change. Not everything has to be a right. Trump used to believe that (or at least claimed he did)
 
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