Too much ice

[Ritzwatch]

Following the Constitution would require them to adhere to the 4th Amendment.

You want to cite the federal statute that says US Park police don't need reasonable articulable suspicion to conduct a traffic stop?

U.S. Code: Table Of Contents

www.law.cornell.edu

Ok, wise guy.

You posted an original post that tried to get people riled up over Park Police pulling people over without a warrant or probable cause:

I politely stated that they did not need a warrant or probable cause:

US Park Police don’t need a warrant or probable cause to pull a vehicle over within their jurisdiction.

You decided to be the smartass bully:

Because suddenly US Parks Police are absolved from following the Constitution?

I again gave an accurate statement of the law related to traffic stops:

No. They have to follow the Constitution. They just don’t need a warrant or probable cause for a traffic stop.

You must have felt the error of your way, because you and the Google machine made friends and you actually stated the correct legal standard - reasonable articulable suspicion - while asking me to cite to law I never contended exists. . I know the 4th requires reasonable articulable suspicion, that is why I was certain it didn’t require probable cause or a warrant.

Following the Constitution would require them to adhere to the 4th Amendment.

You want to cite the federal statute that says US Park police don't need reasonable articulable suspicion to conduct a traffic stop?

U.S. Code: Table Of Contents

www.law.cornell.edu

All I was doing was pointing out a wrong standard. Not trying to embarrass you. But you couldn’t take it.

To recap:
Your original post was misleading. I gently corrected it. You doubled down. I corrected it. You did your research and found out you were wrong, but instead of admitting it, you tried to restate your original position and tried to mischaracterize my position.

Goodness Gracious, BV, you don’t have to always be the smartest guy in the room. Just say, “Oops, I was wrong, thanks for the heads-up,” and move on.

It is a message board, not a battlefield.

 

[NashVol11]

Holding someone for a year without charges is insane

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/16/nyregion/ice-columbia-protester-leqaa-kordia.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

 

[NashVol11]

Losing people

 

[utvolpj]

Losing people

When they've lost Grady you're going the wrong direction. He's also the only man who loves a tv camera more than Trump

 

[Smokey123]

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Law enforcement or sadism?

https://tennesseelookout.com/2026/03/16/nashville-journalist-arrested-by-ice-granted-bond-remains-detained-while-feds-considers-appeal/

 

[trout-vol]

Law enforcement or sadism?

https://tennesseelookout.com/2026/03/16/nashville-journalist-arrested-by-ice-granted-bond-remains-detained-while-feds-considers-appeal/

Law enforcement... they should have a volunteer program that allows any American to trade their citizenship with an illegal. So all liberal women could sacrifice their citizenship for an illegal. I believe it would be a win-win

 

[Majors]

Losing people

So bold! A letter will do it.

Maybe if it was a panel of 9 he would have made it. Sounds like his ego got hurt.

 

[Orangeslice13]

What a great Fing idea.

 

[DuckInAPen]

I, for one, am eager to be run into a ditch by a Waymo 18-wheeler.

 

[Tin Man]

Just read that Gregory Bovino will retire at the end of this month.

 

[Tin Man]

I, for one, am eager to be run into a ditch by a Waymo 18-wheeler.

Kodiak Robitics already operates “autonomous trucks” with safety drivers riding along. They plan to operate additional trucks without safety drivers in the near future.

Aurora Innovations currently operates fully autonomous trucks without safety drivers on routes between Dallas and Houston.

 

[Tin Man]

I remember the news report of testing driverless cars with safety drivers riding along. One safety driver got distracted, and the car ran over a woman in a crosswalk who had the right of way (she didn’t die).

I also recall a report on the testing of driverless semis with safety drivers riding along. While being filmed for the report, the safety driver was very attentive. Are current safety drivers as attentive?

Given the hiccups with driverless cars, are we really ready for 80,000 lb driverless semis (outside of Texas)?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Trump installed Jesus Christ as the leader of the Office Of Immigration Detention Ombudsman’s Office?????
Does anyone on the left even have any basic understanding of basic grammar and sentence composition?
Or maybe they should use the name of My Lord as an off color interjection?

Interesting how no one on the left ever uses the name of the Islamic prophet in vain.

You may kneel and lick Allah my toes, worm.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I remember the news report of testing driverless cars with safety drivers riding along. One safety driver got distracted, and the car ran over a woman in a crosswalk who had the right of way (she didn’t die).

I also recall a report on the testing of driverless semis with safety drivers riding along. While being filmed for the report, the safety driver was very attentive. Are current safety drivers as attentive?

Given the hiccups with driverless cars, are we really ready for 80,000 lb driverless semis (outside of Texas)?

I think there will eventually be a need for commercially exclusive highways, and it will be sooner than many think.

When that becomes a reality, I think self driving freighters is an inevitability. Of course, this is the inner sci-fi nerd in me fantasizing.

 

[hog88]

I think there will eventually be a need for commercially exclusive highways, and it will be sooner than many think.

You ready to pay for that?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

You ready to pay for that?

It likely won't be in my taxpaying lifespan, but it wouldnt exactly top the list of things I'm pissed about my tax doll hairs being used on.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

You ready to pay for that?

I want to elaborate a little. It's not something I want.

It's something I think will be needed. We already test the waters with long stretches of "no truck" lanes on all of our interstate systems.

 

[hog88]

I want to elaborate a little. It's not something I want.

It's something I think will be needed. We already test the waters with long stretches of "no truck" lanes on all of our interstate systems.

Personally, I'd rather see an investment in expanding and improving rail service both passenger and freight.

 

[OHvol40]

Losing people

“Fascist regimes shrink and ultimately collapse due to inherent, unsustainable flaws: aggressive militarism leading to devastating foreign wars, economic instability from forced autarky (self-sufficiency), and the destruction of domestic institutions that creates brittle, unpopular governance
. These regimes collapse when military failure meets internal revolt”

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Personally, I'd rather see an investment in expanding and improving rail service both passenger and freight.

Oh boy, now we're cooking with gas.

 

[hog88]

“Fascist regimes shrink and ultimately collapse due to inherent, unsustainable flaws: aggressive militarism leading to devastating foreign wars, economic instability from forced autarky (self-sufficiency), and the destruction of domestic institutions that creates brittle, unpopular governance
. These regimes collapse when military failure meets internal revolt”

Democracies tend to follow a similar path to collapse

 

[hog88]

Oh boy, now we're cooking with gas.

Rail makes too much sense so it ain't happening.

 

[OHvol40]

Democracies tend to follow a similar path to collapse

I’ve always been of the impression that most democracies fade due to political polarization, racism and nativism, economic inequality, and excessive executive power… but I might be swayed. Want to expand and provide a couple examples?

 

[CobbVol]

I think there will eventually be a need for commercially exclusive highways, and it will be sooner than many think.

When that becomes a reality, I think self driving freighters is an inevitability. Of course, this is the inner sci-fi nerd in me fantasizing.

As a railroader I have to say we already have it.