Too much ice

[Rickyvol77]

Ok then concentrate the deportation efforts on the 31 and on implementing policy that negatively affects all of them in the US. Eventually those communities will fail or they will change. Not everything has to be a right. Trump used to believe that (or at least claimed he did)

Great, except it's the federal government's job to enforce immigration laws, and these illegals are also being involved in several federal issues (census, benefits, welfare, tax evasion, crime, fraud, trafficking, drugs, gangs, etc)

 

[utvolpj]

Great, except it's the federal government's job to enforce immigration laws, and these illegals are also being involved in several federal issues (census, benefits, welfare, tax evasion, crime, fraud, trafficking, drugs, gangs, etc)

Stop trying to eat the whole elephant. What is currently being done is not working. Why not try a different approach instead of looking like this

 

[LouderVol]

You are right and wrong here.

I agree that Obama did it "quieter" and didn't go after the gardener, but also Trump can't "quietly work with the states" because 19 blue states, the Dems in general and the MSM have done a 180 about illegal immigration and ICE and work to block most any enforcement or deportations, even with violent felons

pull the federal funding for those 19. but otherwise don't engage them. put out a simple statement "because State X is not working with federal agents according to our laws, we will no longer be providing federal funds to State X."

let the state flounder and react, while you ignore them. verbally/online engaging these states was one of the worst ideas Trump has had, which is saying something.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Stop trying to eat the whole elephant. What is currently being done is not working. Why not try a different approach instead of looking like this

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Agree except the point is to actually solve the problem, not to allow the problem to fester because it benefits a political party

Both sides were on the same exact side and totally agreed with enforcing illegal immigration, then one side did a 180 for political purposes about 8 years ago.

The immigration laws/enforcement didn't just pop up out of no where in 2024

 

[Rickyvol77]

pull the federal funding for those 19. but otherwise don't engage them. put out a simple statement "because State X is not working with federal agents according to our laws, we will no longer be providing federal funds to State X."

let the state flounder and react, while you ignore them. verbally/online engaging these states was one of the worst ideas Trump has had, which is saying something.

Not a real solution because lower level federal judges who are political can apparently overturn this in some situations

 

[CobbVol]

pull the federal funding for those 19. but otherwise don't engage them. put out a simple statement "because State X is not working with federal agents according to our laws, we will no longer be providing federal funds to State X."

let the state flounder and react, while you ignore them. verbally/online engaging these states was one of the worst ideas Trump has had, which is saying something.

District judges in Sacramento, SF, etc. would be lining up in glee for someone to file a case against that action in their court room.

 

[LouderVol]

Not a real solution because lower level federal judges who are political can apparently overturn this in some situations

yeah Trump gets overturned because he doesn't do anything officially. I said it from the beginning, Trump's Michael Scott declaration of bankruptcy doesn't work. likely because he doesn't actually want the changes made, and wants it struck down so he can play the victim to his sycophants. "Ah shucks I tried but the bad judges stopped me from something I theoretically could do but didn't even attempt the right way"

 

[Rickyvol77]

yeah Trump gets overturned because he doesn't do anything officially. I said it from the beginning, Trump's Michael Scott declaration of bankruptcy doesn't work. likely because he doesn't actually want the changes made, and wants it struck down so he can play the victim to his sycophants. "Ah shucks I tried but the bad judges stopped me from something I theoretically could do but didn't even attempt the right way"

Actually there are several cases that have been overturned incorrectly by law at the federal judge level....including judges saying that the President can't overturn executive orders of previous Presidents, which has been overturned at the Supreme Court multiple times already...Trump is correct legally on most of these cases.