Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

I’m in #2 but disappointed with how he managed this season. Our schedule was easy relative to other SEC schools. Folks were predicting 8 or 9 wins based on average QB play but Joey exceeded those expectations and we still didn’t capitalize. The opportunity was there and as it looks we may have more losses on the horizon.
I’m a big fan of Joey. He seems like a great person and I think he has had a good year, statistically, other than turnovers. So 8-9 wins based on average QB play is what we are gonna get, because average QB play is what we got. Really excellent for stretches, but really atrocious in some key moments. He exceeded expectations until he didn’t. Which equals average QB play.

And that is not me putting all the blame on him. Lots of critical mistakes have been made by coaches and players this year.
 
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Any All-time list of all time Tennessee Quarterbacks that has Jarrett James Guarantano on it is farcical. Bobby Dodd was a QB at Tennessee for goodness sake’s. Not to mention George Cafego and Dewey Warren. And Agree Andy Kelly is all time.
I'm not even sure that I would even put Guarantano over Crompton.
 
Football hate chart...

Tier 1: (lose every game always) Florida, Bama, Georgia
Tier 2: (usually it's the coach) South Carolina, Mizzouri, Vandy, Texas, Kentucky
Tier 3: (fluctuates between Tier 2 & 4) A&M, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn
Tier 4: (only wanna see 'em lose when playing us) Miss State, Arkansas
 
Football hate chart...

Tier 1: (lose every game always) Florida, Bama, Georgia
Tier 2: (usually it's the coach) South Carolina, Mizzouri, Vandy, Texas, Kentucky
Tier 3: (fluctuates between Tier 2 & 4) A&M, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn
Tier 4: (only wanna see 'em lose when playing us) Miss State, Arkansas
For me, Tier 1 for every SEC school except us. Always.
 
Huge for Peay……


Huge is an understatement. I bet you're tickled. I love to see instate schools have success. I really don't get into the tribalism of sports. I have a brother i-law whose brother went to Vandy and my sister's entire family grew up Vandy fans, but for some reason my nephew started wearing Tennessee gear!

Not my influence either. He just started rooting for Tennessee because he has friends that do and they are winning in lots of sports. Anecdotal but I thought it was interesting.
 
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Football hate chart...

Tier 1: (lose every game always) Florida, Bama, Georgia
Tier 2: (usually it's the coach) South Carolina, Mizzouri, Vandy, Texas, Kentucky
Tier 3: (fluctuates between Tier 2 & 4) A&M, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn
Tier 4: (only wanna see 'em lose when playing us) Miss State, Arkansas
1A. Mu**ay St
1B. UF
3. Every other SEC school
4. Ohio St
5. ND
 
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I think recent Tony V comments has highlighted why you're seeing Brandon Lawson stepdown now.

With revenue sharing, NIL, and the new age of transfers for anyone dealing directly with the athletes its a constant job...and some folks simply don't want to deal with that sort of stress.
Wait one minute now

You know just as good as I do that “Big” money stepped in and told CJH to fire him
 
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I would love to know how much ESPN spent on their marketing campaign to encourage YouTube TV customers to harass Google into raising their own subscription rate.



Looks like it was mostly wasted. Google seems to have leverage in this situation and Disney is not used to being in one of these disputes when the other party has the leverage. Every day ESPN/Disney channels are off YTTV, ESPN loses another 5 million dollars.
 
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9-3 is the best case scenario this season. We'll see how it plays out. Breaking in a new QB next year, most likely a freshman or redshirt freshman. I don't see much better next year given that and the schedule. We haven't beat a ranked team in 5 straight tries.

3 of those tries were on the road (home team was favored) and think GA was favored this year. OU game was not good You omit the Bama victory last year as that doesn’t align with your opinion. Things are not as bad as you portray imo
 
Check the stats:
2025 Joey Aguilar - 9 games, 65.7%, 2737yds, 21tds, 8ints, 161 rtg. Vols 6-3 with losses @ Bama, UGA, and OU.

2023 Joe Milton - 12 games, 64.7%, 2813yds, 20tds, 5ints, 147.3 rtg. Vols 9-4 with losses @ UF, @ Bama, @ Mizzou, and UGA.

This is not a comparison of the two QBs, moreso the production. Milton protected the ball better but he also had a better defense, better run game, and weaker WR corps. Less willingness and need to take risks. Joey has the opposite and was already known as a risk taker. That's why I think we see bigger numbers across the board from him.

But overall I think it balances out and the result will be the same. We end the regular season 9-3 or 8-4.

I'm happy to be in a place where our "rebuilding years" are 8-4/9-3 seasons.
 
This list is awful. All-time, I have no idea, but since Shuler is the oldest on the list. I will start with 92.

1. Peyton (Obvious)
2. Shuler (He was so good, unbelievable college qb)
3. Hendon (Heisman candidate if he stays healthy
4. Dobbs
5. Martin (I honestly didn't think Martin was great, but made clutch plays and won a national championship)
6. Ainge (Awful 2005 season, but was good other 3 years)
7. Aguilar (Story is not over, but his numbers are ridiculous)
8. Bray (Great arm, but questionable decision making. Beat up on weak teams. Not his fault he played for Dooley
9. Clausen (I didn't think Clausen was great, but also think Randy Sanders was an awful coordinator)
10. Milton (JG is not on my list. I like the guy, but didnt think he was a good QB.)
Little biased but I got to have Andy Kelly on that list. He was my favorite when I was a teenager and really getting into UT football. Guy beat ND in the miracle at South bend. Not to mention any QB list without Condredge on it is illegitimate as has been said already.
 
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