Another Government Shutdown Thread

[rekinhavoc]

IMO it should take 60 to shut down the gov't, not to open it.

We should do it like Germany does:



Shutdowns in our country are something new

A Brief History of U.S. Government Shutdowns

Government shutdowns (and the threat of them) are a recent phenomenon and something other developed countries don't contend with.

www.pgpf.org

I like Germany's approach.

Filibuster for everything else.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I'm a big supporter of the filibuster and will fight to keep it but it should not be used to shutdown the gov't. A minority should not have that much power

Specifically in this instance the Dems want something that they lack the votes to pass. They can't get a majority of votes to support it, let alone 60. That's our system. Lots of political ideas fail to garner the necessary votes to become law. When that happens, you move on but you don't get to shut down the gov't over it. This is nuts

No one can move on anymore. My way or thr highway is the name of the game while regular Americans are just pawns in their geriatric game of Chinese checkers.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

It's the hill they have chosen to die on and what their constituents voted for. And yes the minority should always have that power when they have the votes.

I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but if you were house broken then you would be the smartest hog that I know.

 

[Sea Ray]

No one can move on anymore. My way or thr highway is the name of the game while regular Americans are just pawns in their geriatric game of Chinese checkers.

There is no bipartisanship in Congress anymore. That’s very unfortunate. Be that as it may you should need far more than 41% to shut down the government

 

[LouderVol]

There is no bipartisanship in Congress anymore. That’s very unfortunate. Be that as it may you should need far more than 41% to shut down the government

not really. the government shouldn't be so important that it can't be shut down.

if there is something important enough going on that it is improper for the government to shut down then it should be important enough to force a decision.

what we are seeing here is the matters aren't important enough, yet, to force a decision.

 

[Sea Ray]

not really. the government shouldn't be so important that it can't be shut down.

if there is something important enough going on that it is improper for the government to shut down then it should be important enough to force a decision.

what we are seeing here is the matters aren't important enough, yet, to force a decision.

It’s a very inefficient way to run a government. In the end much will be spent on workers who didn’t work

 

[LouderVol]

It’s a very inefficient way to run a government. In the end much will be spent on workers who didn’t work

that is another flaw with the system. if the government isn't doing its job, why should we just act like nothing is happening?

I think its criminal that congress doesn't pass a real budget every year. forget even trying to "balance" it. its criminal they can't get together and do their jobs. its literally one of the things required in the Constitution of them. I would love to see it changed so that if Congress can't pass a budget by Tax Day every single politician becomes ineligible for reelection.

 

[Sea Ray]

that is another flaw with the system. if the government isn't doing its job, why should we just act like nothing is happening?

I think its criminal that congress doesn't pass a real budget every year. forget even trying to "balance" it. its criminal they can't get together and do their jobs. its literally one of the things required in the Constitution of them. I would love to see it changed so that if Congress can't pass a budget by Tax Day every single politician becomes ineligible for reelection.

Who decides if government isn’t doing its job? 41% shouldn’t be enough. This is just political partisan games. I agree with you on the budget. We’ve had a lot of government shutdowns over the years. When has it ever had a positive effect on the budget? This shutdown is about increasing spending. No one except for Rand Paul is pushing for lower spending in order to reopen

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[LouderVol]

Who decides if government isn’t doing its job? 41% shouldn’t be enough. This is just political partisan games. I agree with you on the budget. We’ve had a lot of government shutdowns over the years. When has it ever had a positive effect on the budget? This shutdown is about increasing spending. No one except for Rand Paul is pushing for lower spending in order to reopen

I think if the government is doing that poorly 41% is more than enough.

The Revolution is generally assumed to only have had support from between 40-45% AT MOST of the colonists. so 41% seems spot on the line.

the minority should always have a voice. and if the majority isn't strong enough they shouldn't be able to force thru what they want.

 

[Sea Ray]

I think if the government is doing that poorly 41% is more than enough.

The Revolution is generally assumed to only have had support from between 40-45% AT MOST of the colonists. so 41% seems spot on the line.

the minority should always have a voice. and if the majority isn't strong enough they shouldn't be able to force thru what they want.

You will constantly have shutdowns if that’s the case. Many shutdowns is not good efficient government

 

[rekinhavoc]

Speaker Johnson Lays Out 4 'Simple Facts' About the Democrat Government Shutdown

There are four simple truths Americans should know when discussing the Democrat government shutdown, House Speaker Johnson (R-LA) laid out.

www.breitbart.com

1. Democrat votes are required to open government.

2. Democrats have voted 13 times to keep government closed.

3. Democrat refuse to fund the government unless Congress restores left-wing projects.

4. Democrats admit to using PAIN as their “leverage” and boast “every day gets better for us.”

“Let me summarize this really quickly, as simply as I can, for the civic students back home. Republicans are not demanding anything, literally nothing. All we want is to reopen the government. The Democrats are demanding all those things I just showed you on the chart, plus a lot more,” he said, highlighting their demands to send money to foreign countries, including $4 million for global LGBTQI+ awareness campaigns around the world.

“We’re not doing that,” he added.

 

[LouderVol]

You will constantly have shutdowns if that’s the case. Many shutdowns is not good efficient government

the shutdowns are not what is holding back this government from being good, or efficient. thats only possibly been an excuse sense september? what is the excuse for the rest of the time.

its all crap, and none of them will be held accountable, and we will have the same crap inefficient government we have always had.

as you noted previously, this was not an issue before. I believe if Congress actually did its job, it wouldn't be a problem now.

 

[Sea Ray]

the shutdowns are not what is holding back this government from being good, or efficient. thats only possibly been an excuse sense september? what is the excuse for the rest of the time.

its all crap, and none of them will be held accountable, and we will have the same crap inefficient government we have always had.

as you noted previously, this was not an issue before. I believe if Congress actually did its job, it wouldn't be a problem now.

I share your frustration with our present gov't. It's my opinion that shutdowns do nothing to improve the things you mentioned above. In fact I think they make things worse. They make it more inefficient. Do you disagree with any of that?

I see the potential for the result of this shutdown to be more spending. Republicans will give them a few token expenditures (possibly Obamacare subsidies) so Dems can say they got something

 

[theFallGuy]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5575457-live-updates-trump-asia-government-shutdown/

 

[Vol423]

It’s a very inefficient way to run a government. In the end much will be spent on workers who didn’t work

Government is inefficient?

 

[Vol423]

I like Germany's approach.

Filibuster for everything else.

Germany's well-established approach is to invade the rest of Europe.

 

[Vol423]

that is another flaw with the system. if the government isn't doing its job, why should we just act like nothing is happening?

I think its criminal that congress doesn't pass a real budget every year. forget even trying to "balance" it. its criminal they can't get together and do their jobs. its literally one of the things required in the Constitution of them. I would love to see it changed so that if Congress can't pass a budget by Tax Day every single politician becomes ineligible for reelection.

Add ineligibility to be paid until a balanced budget is passed and I'd whole-heartedly support that.

 

[LouderVol]

I share your frustration with our present gov't. It's my opinion that shutdowns do nothing to improve the things you mentioned above. In fact I think they make things worse. They make it more inefficient. Do you disagree with any of that?

I see the potential for the result of this shutdown to be more spending. Republicans will give them a few token expenditures (possibly Obamacare subsidies) so Dems can say they got something

I think the way our government responds to them certainly makes it worse. but again, that is not the only possible outcome.

 

[Vol423]

Waiting for the resident leftists to swing by this thread and explain to us that CNN is spewing MAGA propaganda.

 

[Orangeburst]

Waiting for the resident leftists to swing by this thread and explain to us that CNN is spewing MAGA propaganda.

they are too busy in the 2028 Trump thread..

 

[CobbVol]

Very confusing move by the loons ...

From the article:

Attorneys general and governors from 25 Democrat-led states filed a lawsuit on Oct. 28 in an attempt to force the Trump administration to fund the nation’s largest food aid program benefits amid the federal government shutdown.

States SNAP back, sue Trump administration over food aid cutoff

A coalition of states filed a lawsuit to stop the Trump administration from suspending food aid benefits amid the ongoing government shutdown.

www.usatoday.com

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Speaker Johnson Lays Out 4 'Simple Facts' About the Democrat Government Shutdown

There are four simple truths Americans should know when discussing the Democrat government shutdown, House Speaker Johnson (R-LA) laid out.

www.breitbart.com

1. Democrat votes are required to open government.

2. Democrats have voted 13 times to keep government closed.

3. Democrat refuse to fund the government unless Congress restores left-wing projects.

4. Democrats admit to using PAIN as their “leverage” and boast “every day gets better for us.”

“Let me summarize this really quickly, as simply as I can, for the civic students back home. Republicans are not demanding anything, literally nothing. All we want is to reopen the government. The Democrats are demanding all those things I just showed you on the chart, plus a lot more,” he said, highlighting their demands to send money to foreign countries, including $4 million for global LGBTQI+ awareness campaigns around the world.

“We’re not doing that,” he added.

And as I have said since this charade began...

IF the Republicans give in and finance free healthcare for illegals, sexual mutilation and sterilization of minors, and ALL the trillions of dollars of OTHER BS that the Dems are attempting to hijack our government in order to STEAL from taxpayers...then I am DONE with them. Any Conservative should wash their hands of them.

The Republicans are asking for NOTHING. Just to restart our government as it was running a month ago. The garbage Leftist trash that has hijacked our government should get absolutely NONE of their demands met. None. Taxpayers hard earned money isnt a piggybank they can just bust open every time they pitch a fit, to finance whatever sick garbage they want. All the while lining the pockets of themselves, friends and relatives through the NGOs and LLCs that inevitably get the contracts for all this garbage.

 

[tim]

I’m doing great during the shut down. Stocks up and beers cold

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

He is a dbag but when did he "SCREAM"? Maybe my TDS isn't as bad as the ops? Why do yall fall for this?

All these Twitter posts rely on hyperbole to generate clicks. That hyperbole is, IMHO, one of the contributing factors to the murder of Charlie. I guarantee that a lot of lefties read the headlines and made their appraisal of CK based in that. Same with all this. It's disgusting