Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I know many of us don’t care much for Josh Pate but he went off on SEC officiating on his show today. I’m glad some of these guys working in the media are finally speaking out on this.

He did...but he is still pushing the narrative that it is incompetence...which means he is just as blind as the rest of em.

What we saw at Jordan-Hare was not incompetence..it was manipulation. What we saw at Neyland was not incompetence...ut was manipulation..

Those guys all get caught up in the WHY...just because you do not understand the motive, does not mean it isn't happening.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

He did...but he is still pushing the narrative that it is incompetence...which means he is just as blind as the rest of em.

What we saw at Jordan-Hare was not incompetence..it was manipulation. What we saw at Neyland was not incompetence...ut was manipulation..

Those guys all get caught up in the WHY...just because you do not understand the motive, does not mean it isn't happening.

Even ol' Wes Rucker mentioned how the line dropping on gameday followed by Arkansas getting next to no flags fuels collusion theories.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I heard on the radio that 15 days ago, PSU played Oregon and the game went into OT
PSU scored first, so undefeated, number 3 in the nation, leading Oregon in OT. BOOM
lose to Oregon in OT, lose to UCLA(0-4 at the time) on the road, lose to Northwestern
3-3 record, unranked and you are fired. Crazy 15 days

That really is crazy...I hate James Franklin, and he has flaws as a coach...but he has had several great seasons there. Those are two BAD losses which IMO were a result of nutpunch Oregon loss, but how do you just forget 10+ years of being very productive in two weeks?

I hope they tailspin into the sucky football hell we lived in for over a decade...that is what they deserve for this.

 

[Jpcisco]

McCoy is still in 1st round in most of the mock drafts I have looked at. The Combine and personal workouts for teams will tell the tell for him... That's if he doesn't play this season.

Kiper (who I am not a fan of) still has Mccoy as the best corner in the draft from his prospect rankings he put out this morning. If that is how he is viewed by NFL teams, I understand him not coming back but man it would be huge to get him back and could completely change our defense.

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[GVol1966]

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[volinbama256]

Even ol' Wes Rucker mentioned how the line dropping on gameday followed by Arkansas getting next to no flags fuels collusion theories.

Yep I saw that... you know when Vanilla Rucker steps in and insinuates score/flag/game manipulation and VEGAS, it's pretty obvious to everyone .... this 'ish gotta get under control and something is definitely amiss at the Circle K ...

The only thing I can hope for, which is a pipe dream, is that with all the raising hell and focus this past weekend on how pathetic obvious the refs were trying to help change the outcome of games and helping one team out, that everyone will be looking at our game since it's such a big rivalry...

Maybe there will be enough pressure on the corrupt refs and SEC office since everyone will be watching after this past weekend, that they try to call a somewhat even game... One can only hope!

 

[JCVol00]

And yet I was yelled at constantly for bringing this to the board a while ago. I understand him but when you are getting a nice NIL that sucks for a university who could have spent on a Safety or WR

It was absolutely insane to me that we didn’t try to get more help at cb and safety in the spring window, especially safety since thomas left. It was really a questionable decision then and even moreso now. We are at 76 spots this year, with the sanctions our limit was 82, so that really isnt any reason

 

[Sandman Vol]

But he didn’t say it’s out of the question either lol

 

[Sandman Vol]

Oh dear

Freeze bout to lose the locker room

 

[volinbama256]

Kiper (who I am not a fan of) still has Mccoy as the best corner in the draft from his prospect rankings he put out this morning. If that is how he is viewed by NFL teams, I understand him not coming back but man it would be huge to get him back and could completely change our defense.

Kiper's debut 2026 Big Board: Ranking the top 25 NFL draft prospects, plus position reports

Mel Kiper Jr. is stacking the top 25 players for the 2026 NFL draft, including four quarterbacks and one really good running back. See who makes the list.

www.espn.com

I said a while ago... If McCoy is healthy enough to play and chooses not to because of his draft stock, then that's okay, but the NIL checks better STOP, and you can clean out your locker and go train at a local gym...

The kid is a transfer and has given TN his all, but in the new NIL era and mercenary transfer portal, they need to be treated as such... You can't have it both ways... If you are being paid and are using University facilities, then you need to earn it and play for your team... There's got to be at least something left in college football for a kid to have to follow through with his commitment to his school, teammates, and coaches...

 

[GVol1966]

But Alabama has the Heisman winning QB

That remains to be determined,
But they do have the SEC office and Greg Sankey

 

[GVol1966]

That really is crazy...I hate James Franklin, and he has flaws as a coach...but he has had several great seasons there. Those are two BAD losses which IMO were a result of nutpunch Oregon loss, but how do you just forget 10+ years of being very productive in two weeks?

I hope they tailspin into the sucky football hell we lived in for over a decade...that is what they deserve for this.

It’s the Same as when UGA had Richt.
Very successful but not able to get the trophy,
The want to was already there, the 2 losses were just the justification they needed to pull trigger.

 

[Sandman Vol]

I refuse to get my hopes up on us beating Bama quite simply because of the officiating. If you think the officiating will be within a country mile of being fair Saturday, then I have beach front property in Idaho to sell you

I’ve been looking for a beach to be able to go to when it’s too hot and crowded in Florida. How much you want for it?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Has anyone mentioned how bad our defense has been? Or how coincidentally awesome our offense has been?

Winning is all that matters

 

[Jackcrevol]

I've threatened to switch to this type of workout for years. Still my same routine: Three work outs a week...complimentary muscle groups (for 40 years).

'Good job lats.'

'You too pecs'

'I see you, deltoids!! Nice job!'

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I refuse to get my hopes up on us beating Bama quite simply because of the officiating. If you think the officiating will be within a country mile of being fair Saturday, then I have beach front property in Idaho to sell you

Good grief grow up. I swear some of you think every loss we ever experience is due to officiating. So when we win is it in spite of the officiating? Did we lose to UGA because of officiating?

 

[Visidog]

I said a while ago... If McCoy is healthy enough to play and chooses not to because of his draft stock, then that's okay, but the NIL checks better STOP, and you can clean out your locker and go train at a local gym...

The kid is a transfer and has given TN his all, but in the new NIL era and mercenary transfer portal, they need to be treated as such... You can't have it both ways... If you are being paid and are using University facilities, then you need to earn it and play for your team... There's got to be at least something left in college football for a kid to have to follow through with his commitment to his school, teammates, and coaches...

I get this perspective. But there is also a countervailing view that players having success at the next level is good for their program and risking their draft stock is short sighted. It may be that the best thing McCoy can do for Tennessee is get drafted early. If I were a coach, I would be selling my support of NFL bound players to every recruit under the sun.

By the same token, if McCoy is truly game ready and just sitting, I bet teams will take a hard look before drafting. Showing game-speed reps in live play is his best way of proving he’s healthy, so you have to imagine he’s pushing to play as soon as he’s confident he’s up to it.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

Good grief grow up. I swear some of you think every loss we ever experience is due to officiating. So when we win is it in spite of the officiating? Did we lose to UGA because of officiating?

And some people say that officiating doesn’t cause you to lose a game…

Anyone watching Auburn this year can see they literally had 2 games stolen from them. Yes they could have been superman and won over the universe but officials can cause you to Lose.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Since Heupel arrived, we have had 6 fewer penalties than Alabama across 4 games.

Now, the home team tends to have a big advantage each year. Hopefully our OL chills on the road. That's been our one oenalty achilles heel.

Watch what is about to happen...it's going to be bad. If it's not, I will be extremely shocked. The SECorrupt might call off the zebra goons since there are now so many eyeballs on their obvious manipulation tvanks to the Georgia-Auburn debacle...but I doubt it, they will bend us over, and then write their stupid little "sorry for the screwing you" note afterwards, knowing or hoping that everyone will bitch about it for a few weeks or months and then forget about it.

Their boy Pate and most of the rest of the talking heads are already running their "incompetence" cover...hell even our idiot talking heads mostly do it because they had the "Don’t gripe about officials or you are a p***y" crap shoved down their throat their whole lives.


10-1 and 10-5 discrepancy at Neyland is not incompetence...it is corruption.

 

[Glitch]

Freeze bout to lose the locker room

Freeze opens desk drawer and reaches back behind the false wall and pulls out his burner to order up some "entertainment" for the fellas....

 

[Garren04]

Any news on Jam Miller? Dude straight up got knocked out.

 

[Glitch]

'Good job lats.'

'You too pecs'

'I see you, deltoids!! Nice job!'

The brain is the best muscle and the most fun to exercise. Read a book ya meat heads!

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

USC might get em

Maybe...but USC will have to score a ton to pull it off.

 

[Jack Burton]

Thinking about how Heup is building such a healthy program. Sitting at 5-1 and having these numbers for the future is impressive.

Playing this many young guys usually sets up a few successful following seasons. Just need to hang on to the good ones which I think we do fairly well.

 

[rjd970]

Good grief grow up. I swear some of you think every loss we ever experience is due to officiating. So when we win is it in spite of the officiating? Did we lose to UGA because of officiating?

Officiating is a big part. There are some games where it determined the outcome, but not all.

The Bama game in 2023 probably would have been a win. Bama had a single penalty all game while draping all over our receivers (which was called on us), held with impunity, and some silliness about an arm gesture on a kickoff I’ve never seen called since that pinned us deep coming out of halftime. I’m sorry BOT, you have to be looking for an excuse to call a penalty to do that.

What about wins? It’s all above board in your opinion that the line moves significantly right before the Arkansas game and they are only penalized once when it mattered?

The blame refs after every loss crowd is wrong, and the refs are always above board crowd is wrong. There is a middle ground here that is correct.