Israel vs Palestinians II

[Ttucke11]

Man, the wall sure does double and triple down, a lot. Until its position becomes completely and utterly untenable. So I guess there’s hope for it

Waiting.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

WASHINGTON — The US military’s Central Command (CENTCOM) will oversee the initial stages of the International Stabilization Force (ISF) deployment into the Gaza Strip — with three or four other nations expected to contribute troops.

CENTCOM’s commander, Navy Adm. Brad Cooper, will “initially have 200 people on the ground” — though no American forces will go into Gaza, US officials told reporters on a White House-organized call.

The American military role was described as coordinating troops provided by Egypt, Qatar and Turkey — and managing deconfliction with the Israelis.


The US said no American troops would be on the ground.

“[Cooper’s] role will be to oversee, observe, make sure there are no violations or incursions — everybody is worried about the other side. So much of this is going to be oversight,” one US official said.

“Embedded in his team of 200 people will be probably a bunch of people from the Egyptian armed forces who will help, the Qatari armed forces who will help, as well as the Turks and probably the Emiratis,” the official said.



A map of the Gaza “buffer zone where the IDF will fall back once cease-fire requirements are met.

American military to oversee initial Gaza peacekeeping force — but ‘no US troops are intended to go into Gaza’

Navy Adm. Brad Cooper will “initially have 200 people on the ground” — none of them Americans.”

nypost.com

 

[EasternVol]

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Yes and it's you. Thanks for owning it.

 

[EasternVol]

If Israel had no purpose other than to wipe out the population of Gaza, the population of Gaza would already be wiped out.

Their aim's been to depopulate it, which is a little different.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Their aim's been to depopulate it, which is a little different.

I guess this could be right, let’s see if Gaza is depopulated after all these peace talks are over. After all, if that is their goal, that must happen for Israel to have agreed to the deal, right?

 

[EasternVol]

And yet no one ever seems to provide a coherent theory as to what is taking the genocidal maniacs so bloody long.

It's been mentioned often. If Israel was trying to maximize civilian casualties it would result in loss of international acceptance and support.

 

[KB5252]

I don't care for the UN at all. But no "good" sources exist. Everyone would criticize any source I used one way or the other.

The last sentence is certainly true.

 

[KB5252]

It's been mentioned often. Israel trying to maximize civilian casualties would result in loss of international acceptance and support.

That's what they're accused of now, so what's the real difference?

The Gulf states leadership have been pretty noncommittal and mostly sided with the stability of the Israeli nation, mainly due to the complexity of their relationships and interests. The people of those Gulf states are a different story though.

Some of that changed after the attacks within Qatar. It left us scrambling with not enough fore warning to smooth things over on the front end. That put Trump in a difficult position with Gulf allies Israel needs and from what I'm reading Trump let Netanyahu know about it.

I think Trump's an idiot but he seemed to have willed this peace plan over the start line against some pretty significant odds. I'll give him that, he's shown excellent skills on this particular issue.

 

[EasternVol]

I guess this could be right, let’s see if Gaza is depopulated after all these peace talks are over. After all, if that is their goal, that must happen for Israel to have agreed to the deal, right?

Not necessarily. They may be getting something else they're satisfied with short term, and what happens mid to long term is TBC.

 

[KB5252]

It's been mentioned often. Israel trying to maximize civilian casualties would result in loss of international acceptance and support.

Again though, that's what they've already been accused of doing.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[CobbVol]

I mean there's 20K+ dead kids who aren't responsible for anything. I expect better out of a country and government with so much power. But we firmly disagree on how benevolent they've been.

We also firmly disagree on the 20K+ number generated by the Palestinian Ministry of Health, aka Hamas.

 

[EasternVol]

That's what they're accused of now, so what's the real difference?

The Gulf states leadership have been pretty noncommittal and mostly sided with the stability of the Israeli nation, mainly due to the complexity of their relationships and interests. The people of those Gulf states are a different story though.

Some of that changed after the attacks within Qatar. It left us scrambling with not enough fore warning to smooth things over on the front end. That put Trump in a difficult position with Gulf allies Israel needs and from what I'm reading Trump let Netanyahu know about it.

I think Trump's an idiot but he seemed to have willed this peace plan over the start line against some pretty significant odds. I'll give him that, he's shown excellent skills on this particular issue.

The real difference is that Israel hasn't been continuously carpet bombing Gaza with the intention to kill as many people as possible; they just haven't given two shites who's affected by their fire and their blatant targeting of noncombatants, while common, hasn't happened as often as their attacks on what they can claim are hamas locations.

 

[EasternVol]

Again though, that's what they've already been accused of doing.

Who says they're trying to maximize civilian casualties?

 

[KB5252]

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The hostages were by and large civilians. This among other points in his argument are propaganda decrying propaganda.

 

[KB5252]

Who says they're trying to maximize civilian casualties?

I thought that's what you were claiming they were accused of doing.

 

[85SugarVol]

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Israeli soldiers enforcing a murderous siege on Gaza are apparently hostages, not prisoners of war.

Oh my, how Huff does love his propaganda.

Look! Bloodthirsty Israeli Soldiers -



Dirty POW scum

 

[KB5252]

Israeli soldiers enforcing a murderous siege on Gaza are apparently hostages, not prisoners of war.

Oh my, how Huff does love his propaganda.

Look! Bloodthirsty Israeli Soldiers -

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Dirty POW scum

Those sneaky Jews, they carried fully automatic binkies.

 

[EasternVol]

I thought that's what you were claiming they were accused of doing.

No, I'll edit it for clarity.

 

[85SugarVol]

Those sneaky Jews, they carried fully automatic binkies.

Look like Zionists to me, so anything goes.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

The people "mostly" on the left who think Israel is anything other than the victims in this whole thing is simply amazing.

They should be forced to watch the unedited footage from October 7th and listen to the stories of the surviving victims.

 

[bamawriter]

It's been mentioned often. If Israel was trying to maximize civilian casualties it would result in loss of international acceptance and support.

Because they're doing so well on that front?

 

[EasternVol]

Because they're doing so well on that front?

Considering their history and current activities, yes they're doing very well indeed on that front.

 

[NashVol11]

The people "mostly" on the left who think Israel is anything other than the victims in this whole thing is simply amazing.

They should be forced to watch the unedited footage from October 7th and listen to the stories of the surviving victims.

There are a lot more "surviving victims" in Gaza than in Israel

 

[NashVol11]