Israel vs Palestinians II

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CobbVol said:
How many armies in the history of warfare distributed evacuation maps, dropped leaflets, sent SMS messages, and made calls to civilians in the impacted areas of an upcoming assault?
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I mean there's 20K+ dead kids who aren't responsible for anything. I expect better out of a country and government with so much power. But we firmly disagree on how benevolent they've been.
 
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bamawriter said:
And yet no one ever seems to provide a coherent theory as to what is taking the genocidal maniacs so bloody long.
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Compared to what? It's not taking long compared to other 21st century genocides. It's taken Sudan nearly 20 years to pile up 250k bodies. Israel piled up 100k in less than 2 years. Only Ethiopia surpasses Israel's rate, if you buy the high-end estimates and not the low-end estimates.

So it's actually mass murder at a high pace, compared to anything going on in recent history.
 
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hog88 said:
Show us your work on the 20k dead kids claim.
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I mean those estimates are all over the place but that seems to be the most general consensus.

Does it matter less if it's 10K innocent kids? What if it's 30k? This line of thinking confuses me. There's a ton of dead children. No one's arguing that, they just want to argue the justification.

www.theguardian.com

‘We took the gloves off’: ex-IDF chief confirms Gaza casualties over 200,000

Retired general Herzi Halevi says ‘not once’ had legal advice constrained Israel’s military decisions in the strip
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Added this just to show even the former IDF chief of staff agrees there's been a lot of innocent death.
 
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Ttucke11 said:

I mean those estimates are all over the place but that seems to be the most general consensus.

Does it matter less if it's 10K innocent kids? What if it's 30k? This line of thinking confuses me. There's a ton of dead children. No one's arguing that, they just want to argue the justification.

www.theguardian.com

‘We took the gloves off’: ex-IDF chief confirms Gaza casualties over 200,000

Retired general Herzi Halevi says ‘not once’ had legal advice constrained Israel’s military decisions in the strip
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Added this just to show even the former IDF chief of staff agrees there's been a lot of innocent death.
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No doubt in my mind that there have been a lot of innocent people killed in the war. Hamas is to blame for every single one of them.
 
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hog88 said:
No doubt in my mind that there have been a lot of innocent people killed in the war. Hamas is to blame for every single one of them.
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Come on Hog that is so unlike your persona. Conservatives (I am one) have such a brain block when it comes to Israel.

If a terrorist group infiltrates a school, kills a bunch of kids and holds more hostage as body shields, then the police come in and kill all the shields as well as the terrorists are you just chalking that up to terrorists solely at fault? Hell no you aren't you're going to hold the police to the fire and heads are going to roll. This is the same thing.

I realize 1200~ people were murdered that's awful. But consequently murdering 70K with a 1/3 likely being children does not ever make you the good guy. Justified guy? Maybe. Good guy? **** no.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Come on Hog that is so unlike your persona. Conservatives (I am one) have such a brain block when it comes to Israel.

If a terrorist group infiltrates a school, kills a bunch of kids and holds more hostage as body shields, then the police come in and kill all the shields as well as the terrorists are you just chalking that up to terrorists solely at fault? Hell no you aren't you're going to hold the police to the fire and heads are going to roll. This is the same thing.

I realize 1200~ people were murdered that's awful. But consequently murdering 70K with a 1/3 likely being children does not ever make you the good guy. Justified guy? Maybe. Good guy? **** no.
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The terrorists declared war. It's a messy business.
 
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MAD said:
This is a BS disgusting comment. Hamas filmed what they did to children and even what they do to their own people. Israel never targets them, they target Hamas who hide in tunnels and use civilians as shields. Still can’t believe your comment saying they love the blood of children.
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lol keep drinkin that kool aid
 
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Ttucke11 said:
I do need glasses, but I seem to be able to see this.
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You do.
You don’t like those pictures. Then condemn Hamas for hiding behind and shooting their own when their own tried to get out of the way
Israel is about to return some of the worst terrorist on the planet….healthy and in good shape. In return they will receive their citizens either dead or nearly starved to death.

It doesn’t take anyone with a degree of humanity to figure out which side is the bad guys here.
 
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bamawriter said:
If Israel had no purpose other than to wipe out the population of Gaza, the population of Gaza would already be wiped out.
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Ttucke11 said:
Well on their way it seems.
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3.1% of the population

“Well on their way”

This is the type of keen, penetrating analysis I came back to this thread for.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You do.
You don’t like those pictures. Then condemn Hamas for hiding behind and shooting their own when their own tried to get out of the way
Israel is about to return some of the worst terrorist on the planet….healthy and in good shape. In return they will receive their citizens either dead or nearly starved to death.

It doesn’t take anyone with a degree of humanity to figure out which side is the bad guys here.
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Lmao I've condemned them numerous times you're just absolutely triggered I refuse to sing the praises of the IDF. And somehow any criticism is automatically anti semitism and Nazi adjacent. You established your thoughts after my first very minor grievance.

There's no discussion with you, as this is purely black and white for you. To people with a shred of integrity there's a ton of evil being committed on both sides.

And before you cry again, yes Hamas started it.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Come on Hog that is so unlike your persona. Conservatives (I am one) have such a brain block when it comes to Israel.

If a terrorist group infiltrates a school, kills a bunch of kids and holds more hostage as body shields, then the police come in and kill all the shields as well as the terrorists are you just chalking that up to terrorists solely at fault? Hell no you aren't you're going to hold the police to the fire and heads are going to roll. This is the same thing.

I realize 1200~ people were murdered that's awful. But consequently murdering 70K with a 1/3 likely being children does not ever make you the good guy. Justified guy? Maybe. Good guy? **** no.
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When this whole thing kicked off I posted here that Israel shouldn’t invade, shouldn’t risk the life of a single soldier. They should blockade Gaza, cut off all food, water and electricity, starve the fluckers until the people of Gaza decided they had had enough and turned over the hostages and Hamas members.

You terrorist apologists would have bitched about that.
 
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hog88 said:
When this whole thing kicked off I posted here that Israel shouldn’t invade, shouldn’t risk the life of a single soldier. They should blockade Gaza, cut off all food, water and electricity, starve the fluckers until the people of Gaza decided they had had enough and turned over the hostages and Hamas members.

You terrorist apologists would have bitched about that.
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Damn I thought I'd been respectful and pretty cut and dry, but now I'm a terrorist apologist? That's pretty weak man. Like I said criticism of Israel can really dig into the skin of the best conservatives.

Fwiw I love the top idea.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
IDF chief estimated 10%. UN declared it genocide. Take it up with them.
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10%? That’s 220,000. Not even Huff’s histrionic ass claims anything remotely that high.

But sure - let’s play this one out as well…

Bama - They haven’t taken out the population
Tuck - They’re well on their way

[Checks notes, 90% of Gazan population remains]

Do you remember any of your 2nd grade math?
 
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