Crime and the United States

[n_huffhines]

Wait. You think Chaivin killed Floyd? The autopsy says otherwise. He OD’d.

No, it didn't. Both autopsies said the cause was the restraint. You're confusing the idea that drugs were named a contributing factor. Neither the county nor independent autopsy declared OD as the cause of death.

Of course this won't change your mind about anything so why do you need to misinterpret facts?

 

[n_huffhines]

The concerns of racists are so petty and small. Who would even notice this or call it out?

The NYT's offers information on their style guide and one reason they don't say "White" is because white supremacists capitalize it.

 

[OrangeTsar]

It's time to bring back public executions.

The perp will be tried and receive his justice punishment. But he was obviously mentally ill and the real responsibility lies with the people who allowed someone like this to be released back into the community again and again and again.
If someone in your neighborhood keeps a pet lion in their yard and that lion escapes and kills someone; the lion is of course responsible. But ultimate guilt lies with the person who kept it.
Unfortunately, the judges and magistrates and DA who kept the revolving door spinning will escape any reprocussions.

 

[dalton_vol]

The concerns of racists are so petty and small. Who would even notice this or call it out?

The NYT's offers information on their style guide and one reason they don't say "White" is because white supremacists capitalize it.

Lol, neither should be capitalized. Why are you guys the enemy of america?

 

[dalton_vol]

 

[EasternVol]

Happens all day every single day. The black community needs to stop making excuses and speak up. Personally dont give a **** what mental disorder this animal claims he has. He shouldn't have been on the street. Bring back public executions and 3 strikes you're out and our country is a utopia. But that's mean so we live in fear of our wives and daughters being stabbed in the neck on buses instead.

We had more violent crime when we had those public executions and three strike laws.
What's needed is effective mental health treatment.
Speak up about what? Say crazy people shouldn't do crazy things?

 

[dalton_vol]

We had more violent crime when we had those public executions and three strike laws.
What's needed is effective mental health treatment.
Speak up about what? Say crazy people shouldn't do crazy things?

You'll be against it... if Trump proposed $10 billion for mental health facilities or opening asylum's backup, you and your leftist buddies will scream about that

 

[dalton_vol]

Say what you will about the Middle East but if you get caught stealing you're going to get punished pretty quickly. They don't have a lot of crime in the Middle east, or what they Define as crime

 

[EasternVol]

Imagine my shock.

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Is that confirmed? Seems unlikely.

 

[Ttucke11]

We had more violent crime when we had those public executions and three strike laws.
What's needed is effective mental health treatment.
Speak up about what? Say crazy people shouldn't do crazy things?

Nah they probably need to speak up about black males ages 18-45 are ~2.5% of the population yet they commit roughly ~50% of murder in the country. Is that truth too on the nose for you? Effective mental health treatment my ass. "Got that white girl", concealed weapon, leaves the bus, doesn't target the black people around him. He knew exactly what he was doing. Unless your mental health treatment involves leaving animals like that in mental hospitals forever then no that solves nothing. No rehabilitating that kind of evil.

 

[n_huffhines]

Lol, neither should be capitalized. Why are you guys the enemy of america?

How does not being butthurt about a foreign racist's gripes make me an enemy to America?

 

[n_huffhines]

Say what you will about the Middle East but if you get caught stealing you're going to get punished pretty quickly. They don't have a lot of crime in the Middle east, or what they Define as crime

Yeah, and we definitely want to be more like the ME, right?

Why do you hate America?

 

[EasternVol]

You'll be against it... if Trump proposed $10 billion for mental health facilities or opening asylum's backup, you and your leftist buddies will scream about that

I'd be for the idea. States should do it but the federal government could help with funding.
It would be better if Trump stayed out of the details. What few good ideas he pushes are implemented very badly.
Leftist? Thanks for the levity.

 

[EasternVol]

Nah they probably need to speak up about black males ages 18-45 are ~2.5% of the population yet they commit roughly ~50% of murder in the country. Is that truth too on the nose for you? Effective mental health treatment my ass. "Got that white girl", concealed weapon, leaves the bus, doesn't target the black people around him. He knew exactly what he was doing. Unless your mental health treatment involves leaving animals like that in mental hospitals forever then no that solves nothing. No rehabilitating that kind of evil.

Don't blame others if your solutions won't work. What would have been most likely to prevent this killing is effective mental health treatment. That's truth.
We need to address racial inequities too. What's your program there?

 

[Ttucke11]

Don't blame others if your solutions won't work. What would have been most likely to prevent this killing is effective mental health treatment. That's truth.
We need to address racial inequities too. What's your program there?

My solutions haven't been tried. The solutions we keep coming up with (none) haven't done a thing. Mental health treatment is not doing **** in this case that is such a fantasy land pipe dream. Locking those people up fixes it. Period. 14 prior arrests.

Address racial inequalities? It can be fixed very quickly...men to need to raise their kids. Fixed. I can't do it for them. Quit having them or raise them.

You mention programs, that's the issue. We have a bazillion programs that have done nothing. We can continue to twiddle our thumbs and act like all is well or we can become hard on crime and fix our country. The excuses are worn out. Make people accountable or watch your daughters get stabbed on buses.

 

[ButchPlz]

Is that confirmed? Seems unlikely.

She is a magistrate. Zero legal background required. Still has a duty to consider threats and danger to the public, and is allowed to (and should) consider the litany of crimes this man committed (including the schizophrenic episode that put him in front of her in the first place); she failed to do that.

For what it's worth, she's heavily involved (or outright owns/runs) a for-profit business that "rehabilitates" criminals, but it seems that it is likely more of an activist front than anything.

 

[dalton_vol]

My solutions haven't been tried. The solutions we keep coming up with (none) haven't done a thing. Mental health treatment is not doing **** in this case that is such a fantasy land pipe dream. Locking those people up fixes it. Period. 14 prior arrests.

Address racial inequalities? It can be fixed very quickly...men to need to raise their kids. Fixed. I can't do it for them. Quit having them or raise them.

You mention programs, that's the issue. We have a bazillion programs that have done nothing. We can continue to twiddle our thumbs and act like all is well or we can become hard on crime and fix our country. The excuses are worn out. Make people accountable or watch your daughters get stabbed on buses.

The "more programs", is just another way of virtue signaling. We have wasted billions and billions on programs and it's only gotten worse, especially for the black community

 

[dalton_vol]

Yeah, and we definitely want to be more like the ME, right?

Why do you hate America?

I figured you would support being like the middle east, you sure are fine with having the Middle Eastern take over our communities

 

[dalton_vol]

Nah they probably need to speak up about black males ages 18-45 are ~2.5% of the population yet they commit roughly ~50% of murder in the country. Is that truth too on the nose for you? Effective mental health treatment my ass. "Got that white girl", concealed weapon, leaves the bus, doesn't target the black people around him. He knew exactly what he was doing. Unless your mental health treatment involves leaving animals like that in mental hospitals forever then no that solves nothing. No rehabilitating that kind of evil.

Now you're just being a bigot and a racist. You know those figures and statistics are wrong

 

[n_huffhines]

I figured you would support being like the middle east, you sure are fine with having the Middle Eastern take over our communities

I'm not afraid of immigrants because I'm not a beta boy cuck. I'm not afraid of cities. I'm not afraid of people who are different than me or live different. I'm not afraid of America continuing to be a melting pot. This is why America has achieved all that it has achieved. We are a nation of immigrants, like it or not. And every generation had xenophobes who demonized whoever was the current wave of immigrants. Good thing we didn't listen to them during our formative years, nor in our heyday.

 

[Ttucke11]

Now you're just being a bigot and a racist. You know those figures and statistics are wrong

I think I missed your tone here. Apologies.

Darn stats. Liberals are quite allergic to them.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[Franklin Pierce]

The Democratic congresswoman who represents Charlotte defended the city's cashless bail system against President Donald Trump's criticism, arguing that the man who brutally stabbed a Ukrainian woman should have received mental health treatment rather than been held on traditional bail that might have prevented the attack.

Decarlos Brown, 34, a criminal with an extensive rap sheet, was arrested shortly after police arrived on the scene.

Brown was known to local authorities and had already been arrested 14 times before he randomly attacked the Ukrainian woman who fled from her country amid its ongoing war.

'The perpetrator was a well known career criminal, who had been previously arrested and released on cashless bail in January, a total of 14 times,' Trump said of the incident. 'What the hell was he doing riding the train, and walking the streets? Criminals like this need to be locked up.'

But Rep. Alma Adams, D-N.C., says Trump is wrong and rejected the president's calls for stricter criminal detention for violent repeat offenders.

'You can't solve everything by putting people in jail,' she told the Daily Mail in an exclusive interview when pressed on Trump's cashless bail claim. 'We can't jail our way out of some of the situations that are going on.'




Rep. Alma Adams, D-N.C., told the Daily Mail that jailing more individuals and abolishing cashless bail are not viable solutions to stopping violent attacks like the one on Zarutska

When pressed by the Daily Mail on how Brown was arrested 14 times before he stabbed Zarutska, Adams responded that 'we have to deal with where people are.'

Dem says 'we can't put everyone in jail' after train stabbing

The Democrat who represents Charlotte says that President Trump is wrong about cashless bail, saying instead the man who brutally stabbed Iryna Zarutska needed mental help.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[C-south]

I'm not afraid of immigrants because I'm not a beta boy cuck. I'm not afraid of cities. I'm not afraid of people who are different than me or live different. I'm not afraid of America continuing to be a melting pot. This is why America has achieved all that it has achieved. We are a nation of immigrants, like it or not. And every generation had xenophobes who demonized whoever was the current wave of immigrants. Good thing we didn't listen to them during our formative years, nor in our heyday.

That is exactly you. We don’t need illegals no matter how much you cry about it.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Wikipedia Editors 'downplaying' Iryna Zarutska's Murder By Trying To Sneakily Remove Article​

Wikipedia has been accused of trying to downplay the fatal stabbing of a Ukrainian woman on a North Carolina train after users tried to delete and edited the article.

Iryna Zarutska, 23, died on August 22 after being attacked with no warning by a man sitting behind her on the light rail in an onslaught captured on surveillance video.

She was stabbed three times in the neck by Decarlos Brown Jr, a 34-year-old career criminal who now faces the death penalty after his charges were upgraded to federal terrorism charges.


But a Wikipedia editor on Sunday tried to delete the entry about her death, alleging the incident did not meet the website's 'notability' requirements, The Free Press reports.

The notability requirements, which are written by volunteers, state a topic must receive 'significant coverage' in multiple 'reliable' outlets before it is eligible to receive its own Wikipedia page.

Wikipedia's editors are accused of having removed the name of Zarutska's alleged attacker from the article, as well as references to his race and the phrase 'career criminal'.

Editors also argued whether the incident should be described as a 'killing' or 'murder', according to the newspaper.

As of Wednesday morning, the article detailing the Ukrainian's death is titled the 'Killing of Iryna Zarutska'. Brown's name remains removed from the text, but details of his prior crimes are still included.


The article received nearly 350 revisions in just 24 hours and editors debated about deleting it altogether, Wikipedia states.

One editor reportedly argued the article should be mentioned briefly under a transit controversy section. They claimed it was a 'wrong place, wrong time' story that would typically only be covered in local media.

Wikipedia editors 'downplaying' Iryna Zarutska's murder

Wikipedia has been accused of trying to downplay the fatal stabbing of Iryna Zarutska by allegedly editing the article.

www.dailymail.co.uk