Israel vs Palestinians II

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The useful idiots strike again.

Pretty hard to get 86% consensus from experts on any topic.

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And guess what? Bartov, the expert who is saying it was rigged has called it "genocide," himself.

Thanks for the correction. For a second there, I thought the criticism carried weight because Bartov said it.

To be clear, the reasons Brown thinks it was rigged are the following:

- an anonymous member(s) put a question to a vote without allowing discussion.
- only 25% voted.
- a few who aren't scholars voted

OK. She is right these forums usually allow debate first, but that doesn't explain how we got to 86%. Why did 75% not vote? Is it because they don't want to be on record? OK, so the people brave enough to vote are somehow discredited as the activist minority? How many artists voted? Unless she can show voter suppression, then there isn't much of a scandal here.

Leading genocide scholars organization says Israel is committing genocide in Gaza

The largest professional organization of scholars studying genocide says that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

apnews.com

"O’Brien said 28% of members participated — a rate that’s typical for the group’s resolutions. Voting is held by email, according to the group’s bylaws, and members have 30 days to reply."

No voter suppression, no excuses, they just either couldn't find the time in 30 days or probably more likely, didn't want to go on record.

"The scholars’ resolution accused Israel of crimes including “indiscriminate and deliberate attacks against the civilians and civilian infrastructure” in Gaza and called on Israel to “ immediately cease all acts that constitute genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity against Palestinians in Gaza.”

It begins with an acknowledgment that Hamas’ attack “constitutes international crimes.”

I don't understand how anybody thinks that is a rigged vote. They put a question to a vote, and people voted. It's not like it was a trick question. You either agree with that statement or you don't. 500 members had a chance to voice their opinions, and only 20 people voted "it's not genocide." 20.

 

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You should post what they say instead of a screenshot

You're wasting your time.

BREAKING

The walls are closing in.

The Palestinian Youth Movement just went from “activists” to targets of a federal investigation.

Their leader openly called for sabotage of America’s F-35 supply chain. Senator Tom Cotton sounded the alarm. The FBI is being pressed to act.

If you call for sabotage of American defense, you don’t deserve charity status. You deserve handcuffs.

 

[n_huffhines]

So, what you're saying is that, in the history of urban warfare, this is one of the most effective efforts at reducing civilian casualties as a share of the whole?

Nope, not even someone as biased as you can twist this into a positive if we're going off reality. They're just flattening a whole city and murdering at a completely normal rate. They aren't taking caution like you guys pretend so you can somehow absolve their turning down ceasefires and continuing to murder women and children at the breadline with your $

 

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Bury this. Go put your heads in the sand. I might too, if I were supporting genocide.

Transcription:

"Between 2% and 5% of the population have been killed, 60% to 70% of them civilians. A third of those killed are children. Over 1,000 of those killed are children below the age of one.

That’s a ratio that has not existed in the 21st century. Indeed, you have to go back to World War II for these figures. Some of the destruction in cities in Gaza is greater than the destruction of Hiroshima in nuclear weapons. And so, we now have only one part of Gaza that is not completely flattened. Right now, as we speak, in Bir Bala, the IDF is involved in destroying it.

As one reserve Israeli officer said just a couple of days ago, what the IDF is involved in now is actually not fighting. There hasn’t been a war there since June of 2024. It’s involved in destroying the place—flattening it—or protecting contractors that are being brought from Israel, paid very well for it, to destroy one building after another.

Over 70% of the structures in Gaza are no longer standing. Ninety percent of the schools have been destroyed or damaged. This is a rate of destruction that is unprecedented. In Syria, in the civil war, in 13 years, 2% of the population were killed. Israel has accomplished that already, apparently, by the summer of 2024."

The rate is huge, and the intent is quite clear. And you can see it from all the reports coming in from Gaza." - Omer Bartov, Israeli-American genocide expert confirming this is genocide

So, what you're saying is that, in the history of urban warfare, this is one of the most effective efforts at reducing civilian casualties as a share of the whole?

Nope, not even someone as biased as you can twist this into a positive if we're going off reality. They're just flattening a whole city and murdering at a completely normal rate. They aren't taking caution like you guys pretend so you can somehow absolve their turning down ceasefires and continuing to murder women and children at the breadline with your $

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The organization has already been exposed.

They quietly shut down their Twitter. They shut off where you can search any of the members on their website.

Give it up. This is making you look more dumb and more hateful.

Stop being a useful idiot for Hamas and their propaganda.

 

[Orangeburst]

I cant believe that idiot girl said such a thing.

 

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[Persian Vol]

The useful idiots strike again.













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You know in academia people who join these actually do so for a reason? And not to make a point on volnation? Every academic organization is like this. You could join many medical organizations, but why would you?

With all the Israeli sycophants out there in their bubble going out of their way to delegitimize everything they see, at this point it’s probably compromised. But probably not beforehand, when no one other than the genocide scholar community knew what that organization even was.

 

[Rickyvol77]

You know in academia people who join these actually do so for a reason? And not to make a point on volnation? Every academic organization is like this. You could join many medical organizations, but why would you?

With all the Israeli sycophants out there in their bubble going out of their way to delegitimize everything they see, at this point it’s probably compromised. But probably not beforehand, when no one other than the genocide scholar community knew what that organization even was.

Probably wouldn’t be “going out of their way to delegitimize everything they see” if the Hamas Bollywood like proproganda machine wasn’t constantly caught lying and making up stats and fake videos of suffering literally every week

 

[NashVol11]

Probably wouldn’t be “going out of their way to delegitimize everything they see” if the Hamas Bollywood like proproganda machine wasn’t constantly caught lying and making up stats and fake videos of suffering literally every week

Yes, they would, given that they have done so at every turn. Also, justifying outright lying and compromising an academic organization because some Gazawood twitter account told you this genocide is all fake is pretty disgusting

 

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[Rickyvol77]

Yes, they would, given that they have done so at every turn. Also, justifying outright lying and compromising an academic organization because some Gazawood twitter account told you this genocide is all fake is pretty disgusting

“An academic organizatIon” where anyone can pay $30 and join. Give me a break

 

[Orangeslice13]

I haven’t noticed anyone pretending the war in Gaza is only about the hostages.

Hamas supporters struggle with the “and surrender “ part

 

[NCFisher]

Bibi doesn’t care about hostages

In lieu of reading his mind, I'll opine he doesn't care about them more than the security of the nation, nor should he.
Were I him, the hostages were expendable the moment they were taken.

 

[Persian Vol]

Zionists: We’ll stop killing civilians and will stop this war when Hamas releases the hostages

Also Zionists: Actually, this war will end only if Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders Gaza completely

Also Also Zionists: The hostages are actually expendable, this war is for greater security

Also Also Also Zionists: Let’s Annex 82% of the West Bank while we’re at it cause why the **** not


Absolute buffoons.

 

[volfanhill]

Zionists: We’ll stop killing civilians and will stop this war when Hamas releases the hostages

Also Zionists: Actually, this war will end only if Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders Gaza completely

Also Also Zionists: The hostages are actually expendable, this war is for greater security

Also Also Also Zionists: Let’s Annex 82% of the West Bank while we’re at it cause why the **** not


Absolute buffoons.

People claiming Hamas has offered to release the hostages while ignoring that they want hundreds of prisoners released: Buffoons

People who dont realize that this current mess was started by Hamas: Buffoons

People who think any other country on earth wouldn't have removed this threat if capable years ago: Buffoons


This crazy narrative some buy that Israel controls US policy falls apart here. They would have taken all this land decades ago if the handcuffs weren't put on them by us.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Zionists: We’ll stop killing civilians and will stop this war when Hamas releases the hostages

Also Zionists: Actually, this war will end only if Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders Gaza completely

Also Also Zionists: The hostages are actually expendable, this war is for greater security

Also Also Also Zionists: Let’s Annex 82% of the West Bank while we’re at it cause why the **** not


Absolute buffoons.

Hamas should be forced to abdicate and completely surrender. They are a terrorist group and evil and started this latest war. I don’t know why you think this is controversial.

 

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Danger on American Soil:
The People’s Conference for Palestine



The People’s Conference for Palestine turned into a stage for glorifying hate.Why are terror-linked groups allowed to spread extremism on American soil?And how long will silence let this danger grow?

 

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Who does Palestine need to be free from again?

 

[n_huffhines]

People claiming Hamas has offered to release the hostages while ignoring that they want hundreds of prisoners released: Buffoons

People who dont realize that this current mess was started by Hamas: Buffoons

People who think any other country on earth wouldn't have removed this threat if capable years ago: Buffoons


This crazy narrative some buy that Israel controls US policy falls apart here. They would have taken all this land decades ago if the handcuffs weren't put on them by us.

Dude, you thought the problem was Israel didn't take all the land decades ago.

You make the starting point 10/7 when nobody involved considers that the starting point. How about I just say August 2022 was the starting point?

We don't have a threat to remove because we are not illegally occupying anybody. What other "western" country has gotten away with war crimes for 50 years? They created the threat with their illegal occupation. It was a war crime to take Gaza and they've been in the act of committing it for 50 years. Hamas is a reaction to their sins.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Dude, you thought the problem was Israel didn't take all the land decades ago.

You make the starting point 10/7 when nobody involved considers that the starting point. How about I just say August 2022 was the starting point?

We don't have a threat to remove because we are not illegally occupying anybody. What other "western" country has gotten away with war crimes for 50 years? They created the threat with their illegal occupation. It was a war crime to take Gaza and they've been in the act of committing it for 50 years. Hamas is a reaction to their sins.

Cool.
They reacted to Israel’s sins
They now get to reap the rewards of that reaction.

Interesting perspective as you sit in a country that illegally occupies Native American lands and has for over 100 years

 

[Smokey123]

Dude, you thought the problem was Israel didn't take all the land decades ago.

You make the starting point 10/7 when nobody involved considers that the starting point. How about I just say August 2022 was the starting point?

We don't have a threat to remove because we are not illegally occupying anybody. What other "western" country has gotten away with war crimes for 50 years? They created the threat with their illegal occupation. It was a war crime to take Gaza and they've been in the act of committing it for 50 years. Hamas is a reaction to their sins.

Hamas was a reaction to a “secular” PLO

 

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Pay attention in the back of the class kids... This is called "narrative inversion" and a key part of the sophisticated and cynical narrative war against Israel.

I don't know if this revolutionary cosplayer understands she has been manipulated or she "she" is part of the campaign. Israel quite literally proved it had no interest in Gaza when it left in 2005. Hamas literally proved the opposite when it invaded Israel on October 7th and attempted a genocide against mostly unarmed civilians.

Now we know what narrative inversion looks

 

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Everything these useful idiots have posted about Israel ends up being a lie.

The antisemites can’t wait to post and point fingers and when it gets debunked they still blame.

It’s a cult.

Every single time without fail.

Remember Anthony Aguilar's claims?

The story of Abboud went viral after a former GHF contractor, Anthony Aguilar, a 25-year veteran of the U.S. Army and retired Green Beret Lt. Col., said he saw the boy who he called "Amir" gunned down by IDF forces outside a GHF distribution site on May 28.

Well, surprise, surprise (FOX News Exclusive):

A young Gazan boy dubbed "Amir" who traveled to a Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) distribution site and was reported as having been killed by Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) in May, has been found alive and was hiding out with his mother.