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Vol8188 said:
If so he made a conscious decision to take an insanely short clip and look no further into what was said.

If you watch small edited videos and just assume that’s all there is to the story, and then repeat the claim over and over as a central part of your argument without looking into the veracity of the claim itself….thats on you.
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I don't see how your ears haven't blown out from all your bad spinning. Why mention that 'should have' only now if it's so obvious? You had plenty of chances to mention it before.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The point is humans generally agree that people who shouldn't be trusted with nukes won't be allowed to BUY or DEVELOP nukes. It's to no one sane's advantage to let every nation who CAN develop a nuke do so nor every terrorist who CAN afford one get one.

These things are policed. There's an understanding among the sane: don't let the crazy people have crazy powerful weapons that can off all of humanity.

I AM surprised we don't see more terror attacks with gas and bio weapons. Easier to make, harder to police, etc. I'm extraordinarily surprised no domestic terrorist has tried to dose a DC building water supply with LSD or worse.
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Do you think the world was agreeable to North Korea, India and Pakistan getting the bomb? Or did the policing fail, and how?
 
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EasternVol said:
Do you think the world was agreeable to North Korea, India and Pakistan getting the bomb? Or did the policing fail, and how?
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Nuclear weapon proliferation almost always happens in clusters because of arms races. Party a gets a nuclear weapons program party b decides they must have one etc.

It's not always due to failure of policing but the world has become better at keeping non nuclear countries without nuclear weapons. Particularly in the ME, and the world is much better without nuclear proliferation in that arena.

I'm not for US involvement in Iran. But if keeping that countries nuclear program from progressing in fine with us dropping a few bombs......... But nothing more.

And above that we need Israel to wrap up it's mission as well. The Iranians need to handle the rest themselves. Israel needs to let things cool. It can't go on much longer.
 
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volfanhill said:
IMO Iran doesn't have the weapons anymore
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I think they still do have some, I think they may have lost the will of some of their soldiers if the reports are true. And if the web went black some of their capabilities probably have too. Like targeting etc.

Still, desperate men do desperate things. The fact 3 jets flew out today seems odd. One jet could get a team of negotiators out. 3 makes me wonder if that was a ticket out for leaders and their families.

Still, this quiet may not be a good thing.
 
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