Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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#176,026
SoilVol said:
If only it were that simple it would be easy.

If I do nothing, we remain stuck 14hrs from home with a chance but no guarantees I get offered a job 3.5hrs away. If I take it we are 10hrs for 1yr that will open many more doors and opportunities.

The "incredible opportunity" isn't a money play but an experience and potential career trajectory.
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Not sure if you've decided yet or not, but I applaud your discernment.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Did we watch the same team? I would argue that he was a 'good passer', but fortunately also had legs. He also had great fortune of having David Cutcliffe and Randy Sanders in their prime.

I would agree about the defense. Guys like Al Wilson and Billy Ratliffe. Ratliff made that guarantee on sideline. One of the coolest experiences ive had was talking to Billy one day at work. Very humble, and loves talking about that play.
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We apparently didn’t. I watched the team with the QB who couldn’t complete 50% his passes against any of Tennessee’s ranked regular season opponents and only completed 57% on the year. That’s not a good pssser.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
We apparently didn’t. I watched the team with the QB who couldn’t complete 50% his passes against any of Tennessee’s ranked regular season opponents and only completed 57% on the year. That’s not a good pssser.
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I watched him beat South Carolina, on Jefferson Pilot sports. I believe it was Dave Neal who was over the moon with his consecutive passes record.

Watched him live against Arkansas inside Neyland, and watched him beat Bama in Loser. Granted it was nose bleeds, and a year later. I could still see it.

Now, you are enamored with Statistics. You may also have a different definition of 'good.'

I'm not trying to sit here and say Tee was Peyton, or even HH. Again, he didnt have to be. But, he was a good enough passer to win a National Title, and get drafted to. The Steelers I believe ? May have been Ravens.

One other thing to consider is teams throw the ball more now. Could be one reason for skewed statistics.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Not the point. His completion pct was “inflated” to 54% by completing 23 straight easy completions against one of the worst teams in SEC history.

He was BELOW 50% completions against Syracuse, Florida, Georgia, and Arkansas.

In the Florida game, he didn’t see a wide open Price in the end zone in OT, which would’ve won the game, but got bailed out by Jeff Hall and the Florida miss.

In the Arkansas game, in his chance to win the game on a final drive, he went 4 and out, missing a wide open Price a couple times over the middle. When the miracle fumble happened, Tennessee knew better than to put the game in his hands again, so they ran it every play.

He made some big plays with his legs and some bombs to Price, but overall, he was pretty awful as a passer that year. He was fortunate to have a defense that was better than we’d seen since at least the 60s.
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Everyone’s stats are inflated against bad teams. Take Nico this past season against UTC or Peyton against a bad UK team throwing for 523. Tee threw like 6 picks the whole year. Wasn’t an exceptional passer obviously but for a qb to take a team to the natty and win, undefeated..he’s not what you’re making him out to be
 
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Jackcrevol said:
I watched him beat South Carolina, on Jefferson Pilot sports. I believe it was Dave Neal who was over the moon with his consecutive passes record.

Watched him live against Arkansas inside Neyland, and watched him beat Bama in Loser. Granted it was nose bleeds, and a year later. I could still see it.

Now, you are enamored with Statistics. You may also have a different definition of 'good.'

I'm not trying to sit here and say Tee was Peyton, or even HH. Again, he didnt have to be. But, he was a good enough passer to win a National Title, and get drafted to. The Steelers I believe ? May have been Ravens.

One other thing to consider is teams throw the ball more now. Could be one reason for skewed statistics.
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It was 1998, not 1938. Good QBs completed more than 57%. Or 54%. But yeah, he lit up 1-10 South Carolina. Awesome. Statistics matter. They show how many times a QB completed passes and for how many yards. Otherwise, why do they keep them?

If you watched him against Arkansas, you watched him complete less than half his passes, then blow his chance to win the game on what should have been the final drive, going 4 and out and missing wide open WRs twice. He hgot bailed out by the fluke fumble and what did Tennessee do then? They took the ball out of Tee's hands, showing zero confidence in him (why would they? He'd just blown it) and running the ball on every single play.

Yes, he didn't have to be a good passer to win a NC. I agree. That's the point. He wasn't. That defense, offensive line, and running game (along with Peerless Price) were just that good.

Watch this game and tell me that's a good passer for Tennessee:
 
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