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Perhaps I misunderstand your motivation to post the social media you share here. The assumption on my end is that you post things with which you align. So when I pick apart your commentary wrt to a posted social media clip, it shouldn't be unexpected.

I did not see any clarification you offered.
I mentioned earlier in this thread I live in Austin. They protested in some parts where car travel isn’t allowed, and they protested in some parts where car travel was allowed. Nothing got bad until a small group of violent protesters began throwing rocks at police. Unfortunately a small group of people ruined it for the majority that were peaceful
 
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I mentioned earlier in this thread I live in Austin. They protested in some parts where car travel isn’t allowed, and they protested in some parts where car travel was allowed. Nothing got bad until a small group of violent protesters began throwing rocks at police. Unfortunately a small group of people ruined it for the majority that were peaceful
Completely reasonable, imo. Protesters who are in the streets where traffic is already prohibited, or in streets with a permit granted (if needed) so police can re-route traffic have my full support whether or not I agree with their cause. I'm glad we have those freedoms.
Protesters who create impediments to the freedoms to others have to be addressed. And as with any group larger than 3, there are always going to be some "bad" ones tainting the whole group. But once that happens, LEOs HAVE to shut down the whole event. I suspect it would be impossible to separate the bad apples from the whole bunch in real time.
 
Perhaps I misunderstand your motivation to post the social media you share here. The assumption on my end is that you post things with which you align. So when I pick apart your commentary wrt to a posted social media clip, it shouldn't be unexpected.

I did not see any clarification you offered.

I clarified that the point in sharing the video was about violence in yet another US city (Dallas). Also, my brother said it's happening in Chicago now, too.
 
I mentioned earlier in this thread I live in Austin. They protested in some parts where car travel isn’t allowed, and they protested in some parts where car travel was allowed. Nothing got bad until a small group of violent protesters began throwing rocks at police. Unfortunately a small group of people ruined it for the majority that were peaceful

That was probably the case in LA. My guess is that it started out as a peaceful and legitimate protest and a few bad apples went violent then others decided to join the party and get their looting on.
 
I clarified that the point in sharing the video was about violence in yet another US city (Dallas). Also, my brother said it's happening in Chicago now, too.
What I am about to say is not an endorsement of violence or unequivocal support of State-sponsored violence.

Some people need violence to be sufficiently motivated to change their behavior.
 
I clarified that the point in sharing the video was about violence in yet another US city (Dallas). Also, my brother said it's happening in Chicago now, too.
Spontaneous, organic protests are scheduled for this Saturday across the country. You can go to the link below for locations, marching orders, and how you can get your check.

 
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Spontaneous, organic protests are scheduled for this Saturday across the country. You can go to the link below for locations, marching orders, and how you can get your check.


I do need 5 or 6 new TVs for football season and some new sneakers.....
 
Putting more thought into Louders little trip down the rabbit hole.

What would I do if ICE randomly asked for me to prove my legal status. Well, the first thing I would do is ask if they have a warrant or what reason are they asking. Since they wouldn't have a warrant and probably no valid/legal reason to ask I would next tell them to piss off (respectfully of course). If they decided to take me in, fine. A lawsuit would be dropped shortly after and hopefully I get enough out of it to buy a new boat. Plus all the money I would get selling my "traumatic" experience story to CNN and MSNBC.
you think ICE has been operating with warrants on any of these arrests/detainments?

this is part of the reason I have had a big issue with HOW they have been going about their business. They have already got the Supreme Court to go along with with a reduced deportation process. they have already shown they are willing to physically deport someone without letting them talk to a lawyer first, or get in front of a judge.

but I get it, you want to trust the federal government while it uses its power to an unprecedented level just because "nothing" bad has happened yet.

you all have much more trust in the government than I ever will. willing to bet dollars vs donuts you wouldn't be this accepting if it was Kamala or Biden in office.
 
@Orange_Crush in regards to #27,849

you realize the "Hasn't gone wrong yet" was YOUR argument, not mine.

plenty has gone wrong. you guys have just shrugged it off, and or accepted each new breach. I haven't bought into that fallacy,
 
Literally no one said you do. Sure the burden of proof is on them. But you’re increasing the odds that you’re wrongly detained. It’s your decision, but it’s a joke to blame anyone else or the system for your own poor decision.
how is it a poor decision to NOT carry around your passport, social security card, or birth certificate in the US if you are a US citizen?

we are supposed to be the land of the free. not the home of Documented and Tracked.

yall really don't care about rights, you just care about how much power Trump can give himself.

it is ENTIRELY the fault of the system that the default is that citizens have to prove their innocence to remain un-detained.
 
how is it a poor decision to NOT carry around your passport, social security card, or birth certificate in the US if you are a US citizen?

we are supposed to be the land of the free. not the home of Documented and Tracked.

yall really don't care about rights, you just care about how much power Trump can give himself.

it is ENTIRELY the fault of the system that the default is that citizens have to prove their innocence to remain un-detained.
Incorrect take, at least where I am concerned.

I don't care about Trump. I care about staying out of the fray. Staying out of a situation which disrupts my life. I want to be prepared to have the least level of engagement as possible.

It's exactly analogous for those at risk of being stopped about questionable citizenship to carry their "papers" as it was for you and me to carry ours when in a foreign country.
 
Prove this is the case. It's their assertion. It's just as likely there was a warrant for his brother and he was detained until they could verify his status.
I mean there is a video of SOMETHING happening. if you, or others, have doubts its up to you to refute the video. even a video of the ICE agents refuting the story would do.

its crazy the level of discrepancy between what yall will accept as far as proof based on what side is presenting it.
 
you think ICE has been operating with warrants on any of these arrests/detainments?

this is part of the reason I have had a big issue with HOW they have been going about their business. They have already got the Supreme Court to go along with with a reduced deportation process. they have already shown they are willing to physically deport someone without letting them talk to a lawyer first, or get in front of a judge.

but I get it, you want to trust the federal government while it uses its power to an unprecedented level just because "nothing" bad has happened yet.

you all have much more trust in the government than I ever will. willing to bet dollars vs donuts you wouldn't be this accepting if it was Kamala or Biden in office.

Ok, you're going to have to show your work on "they have already shown they are willing to physically deport someone without letting them talk to a lawyer first, or get in front of a judge". Once you can show me proof this is happening then we can discuss the rest of your post because without proof that these people are not being afforded any due process the rest of your post is just a childish rant.
 
Incorrect take, at least where I am concerned.

I don't care about Trump. I care about staying out of the fray. Staying out of a situation which disrupts my life. I want to be prepared to have the least level of engagement as possible.

It's exactly analogous for those at risk of being stopped about questionable citizenship to carry their "papers" as it was for you and me to carry ours when in a foreign country.
Of course the irony of leftists complaining about having to “show your papers” is that they were the exact same people demanding that I carry around my proof of vaccination card during Covid before I could enter businesses or get on a plane
 
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