President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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n_huffhines said:
I honestly DGAF about that aspect of the post. The problem is calling for the arrest of a governor over nothing.

Just wait until the D's are in charge and they militarize your streets in search of far right dissenters or some **** like that.

We are off the rails.
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The Ds made this possible.
And you didn’t say jack ****.
So why are you now worried about them later abusing the system they set up?

Give me a Fing break
 
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volbeast33 said:
Did you miss the Democrats going after Donald Trump? Nobody is arresting Gaving Newsome. Antonio Brown just claimed that he had aex with Gavin’s wife.😁
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Nobody said they are arrresting Gavin Newsome. I said they are making threats, which is authoritarian.

It's actually quite a bit different than Democrats going after Trump. He's making threats in real time to achieve political compliance and squash local government with the power of the federal government, which is a direct threat to our constitution.

Democrats were just using the law to get revenge on a filthy piece of ****, which I won't shed a single tear about. I've been waiting my whole life for a president to face retribution. Cry me a river. It's called karma.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Those rioters burning and destroying public and private property should face lengthy prison time.

With that said showing up at a downtown restaurant with flack jackets armed to the teeth invites/dares that response. It showed the rioters there was no other way of protest.


The whole situation is being handled very poorly by all involved
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this doesn't make sense to me. you are picking like the third or fourth act in the sequence, and acting like its the start of the issues. the issue started long before anyone showed up in flak jackets.

social workers and therapists aren't going to resolve this, or really most violent issues. they were rioting, burning stuff, attacking feds, before the NG were called up. Clearly the local PD reaction at the time wasn't enough, so escalation was needed. plain and simple. the fault lies with the rioters.

don't get me twisted here, the Marines and NG are too far. but there is no way to put any of the guilt of the rioters, or their actions, or their eventual involvement.

have they even done anything to this point? all the pics/vids I have seen have either been ICE, or local PD. if the NG still haven't done anything, its even more difficult to blame them for the rioters acts, or escalation there is no way they could have caused.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Ice showed up in the beginning armed to the teeth, at restaurants
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Yeah, ICE showed up ready to fight. They used riot tactics against peaceful protesters, and now we have real problems.

Anybody who knows anything about policy-making knows that this is how you stir up a riot.
 
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LouderVol said:
what is your definition of "armed to the teeth", and "flak jacket"? I am willing to bet its probably nothing out of scale to what the local PD is issued with.
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The local PD's are outfitted to go to war, too. This is why libertarians have been complaining about militarized police for 4 decades.

One difference in this case, is they're wearing masks because that's what the good guys do in an authoritarian regime.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I don’t consider false asylum claims to be entering legally
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I don’t either. But I didn’t read it as him making that point. I could be wrong.

There were large populations of people (Haitians?) that were granted a temporary legal status.

Not talking about dude that trekked all the way from Colombia to El Paso and proclaimed - “I don’t feel safe. I demand asylum.”
 
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85SugarVol said:
I don’t either. But I didn’t read it as him making that point. I could be wrong.

There were large populations of people (Haitians?) that were granted a temporary legal status.

Not talking about dude that trekked all the way from Colombia to El Paso and proclaimed - “I don’t feel safe. I demand asylum.”
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I think the Haitians in question came here illegally and were then granted legal status. Thus the Vance “wave of a wand” comment about Harris
 
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n_huffhines said:
Nobody said they are arrresting Gavin Newsome. I said they are making threats, which is authoritarian.

It's actually quite a bit different than Democrats going after Trump. He's making threats in real time to achieve political compliance and squash local government with the power of the federal government, which is a direct threat to our constitution.

Democrats were just using the law to get revenge on a filthy piece of ****, which I won't shed a single tear about. I've been waiting my whole life for a president to face retribution. Cry me a river. It's called karma.
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Shouldnt you be in favor of the threats. The republicans could take out new so me before he tries to become President.
 
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EasternVol said:
What if there's no passport? Are the immigration court findings, residence application updates, etc. in that data?
Are we now at fast triage rather than answer in 5 seconds?
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No passport and no record of passport or processing when entering the country means immediate deportation.

We processed in and out of Japan. I assume it is the same for people coming into America with passport.

If there is a record of processing into america, but no passport, those folks can get with their embassy for a replacement just like I would have had to do if we lost ours in Japan.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Shouldnt you be in favor of the threats. The republicans could take out new so me before he tries to become President.
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In the wake of the BBB, man who claims to be against deficits to attend expensive Trump parade where he will cheer "USA! USA!" sending a clear message to our reps that he is for fiscal responsiblity.
 
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LouderVol said:
so everyone has to carry their passport? and also submit to the government having your biometric data at large?

First generation american whose parents are from Venezuela, isn't going to be in the facial scan database of foreigners, and isn't going to be carrying a passport. they fail your test, and at least detained, until they can prove their innocence.

no thank you.
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A first generation doesn't need a passport. They are an american. There are other records which document their citizenship.

There are redundancies in place which means people don't have to carry the passport daily. But they do need to produce it when required.
 
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n_huffhines said:
In the wake of the BBB, man who claims to be against deficits to attend expensive Trump parade where he will cheer "USA! USA!" sending a clear message to our reps that he is for fiscal responsiblity.
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I am going to Washington from June 14-21. That is where my son wanted to go after graduating High School. IT is a coincidence that the parade is that weekend. I will be checking out the parade and festivities. I don't agree with the parade or the BBB but I doubt my attendance or patriotism will make much of a difference.
 
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