The Deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia

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KB5252 said:
A long time ago I was incarcerated, I've seen them all. It was before MS13 was a thing though.

My best friend growing up runs a prison ministry, he's a former inmate as well. I keep him a few times a year as I have time.

I'm not an expert, but I'm versed in gang culture and reading tattoos and graffiti. Graffiti is what got me first interested in it as a kid growing up in South Nashville.

You can believe what you want, but that looks like an associate tattoo to me, he's not a hardened gang banger but he's likely a business associate, the kind of people that are used when street soldiers would bring too much heat.

Could I be wrong? Sure. But IMO dudes either a poser or associated gang member. JMO, also the opinion of a professional well versed and familiar with MS13.

I get passionate when I have convictions, if I crossed any lines I apologize, but I believe what I believe.

As for Trump I don't care, he's wrong a lot, but that has no bearing on this dudes tattoos.
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Nicely done.

(But don’t be surprised if Huff asks for your booking photo and a buccal swab to confirm you are telling the truth.)
 
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Deported 'MS-13 gangster' Kilmar Abrego Garcia has won the sympathy of liberals and Democrats around America after shock claims he was wrongfully sent to El Salvador alongside more than 200 hardened criminals.

But Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem delivered a hard truth to his fans on Wednesday: even if Abrego Garcia was brought back to the United States, she'd turn him around and send him straight home.

'He is an El Salvador citizen,' she told CBS. 'He is home there in his country.

'If he were to be brought back to the United States of America, we would immediately deport him again.'

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www.dailymail.co.uk

What would happen if deported 'MS-13 gangbanger' returned to US

Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem delivered a hard truth to fans of deported 'MS-13 gangster' Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
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Where are you finding proof that the tattoo means that? An LEO has said it means that. He has not demonstrated that it means that.

The inconvenient thing about America is that the burden of proof is on the accuser and the accused is supposed to get due process. Trump is so stupid he thought it said MS-13, and this is the kind of information he's using to make decisions that skirt due process.

Stop defending terrible government and defend the constitution.
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The LEO also started with 'they're terrorists', which was almost certainly designed to rouse the rabble.
 
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KB5252 said:
If he stated the tattoo interpreted reads MS13 he is correct, and I believe that's what he likely meant.


But Trump is an idiot and will never backtrack and give sometime an inch when being pressed.
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Trump clearly definitely said that the characters M S 1 3 are tattooed on the guy's hand. And he tried to bully the interviewer into agreeing with him.
 
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EasternVol said:
Trump clearly definitely said that the characters M S 1 3 are tattooed on the guy's hand. And he tried to bully the interviewer into agreeing with him.
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I have the same quality of evidence that Trump has that shows Trump to be an MS 13 member.. This is the reason Trump wears so much makeup..to cover up his secret gang affiliation..
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EasternVol said:
The LEO also started with 'they're terrorists', which was almost certainly designed to rouse the rabble.
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Sure it was, that's been the narrative, they have taken the stance that all drug cartels and gangs are. I think that's a mistake, it gives them publicity and legitimacy, even more a call to mobilize and to further organize.

The only purpose it serves is to open a few more tools to combat them, those can be weaponized in the future. I think about Ruby Ridge and the effect the raid on that compound had. It has been a call to arms for white nationalists. That policy was later backed off of after Waco for a number of reasons.

Imagine what would happen if you gave cartels and gangs that same rallying cry? There are better ways to combat the gangs, cartels and the nationalist groups . I think the net effect will be a negative one of we keep this course. .
 
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Trump clearly definitely said that the characters M S 1 3 are tattooed on the guy's hand. And he tried to bully the interviewer into agreeing with him.
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Ok, that's stupid. He was briefed I'm sure. Like I said he's a bad communicator, his ego won't let him have an honest debate, I'm not even convinced he's capable of real discussion, he's incapable.
 
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Sure it was, that's been the narrative, they have taken the stance that all drug cartels and gangs are. I think that's a mistake, it gives them publicity and legitimacy, even more a call to mobilize and to further organize.

The only purpose it serves is to open a few more tools to combat them, those can be weaponized in the future. I think about Ruby Ridge and the effect the raid on that compound had. It has been a call to arms for white nationalists. That policy was later backed off of after Waco for a number of reasons.

Imagine what would happen if you gave cartels and gangs that same rallying cry? There are better ways to combat the gangs, cartels and the nationalist groups . I think the net effect will be a negative one of we keep this course. .
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You ever dealt with a bully, I’m not talking about telling the teacher, or a perfectly worded retort online. I’m talking about them not only not messing with you but also anybody around you?
 
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Wireless1 said:
You ever dealt with a bully, I’m not talking about telling the teacher, or a perfectly worded retort online. I’m talking about them not only not messing with you but also anybody around you?
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Of course I have. What are you getting at?
 
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Ilhan Omar Curses out Daily Caller reporter over El Salvador question, then doubles down: ‘F–k off’​

“Squad” Rep. Ilhan Omar told a Daily Caller reporter to “f–k off” Thursday outside the US Capitol after he asked her a basic question about Democrats traveling to El Salvador to show support for deported alleged MS-13 member Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

Myles Morrell identified himself as a journalist and asked Omar (D-Minn.): “Do you think more of your Democratic colleagues should be traveling to El Salvador to advocate on behalf of [Kilmar] Abrego Gracia?”

“I think you should f–k off,” Omar shot back.

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“You should f–k off,” the Democrat repeated when a shocked Morrell asked what she was saying.


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Ilhan Omar curses out Daily Caller reporter over El Salvador question, then doubles down: ‘F–k off’

Myles Morrell identified himself as a journalist and asked Omar: “Do you think more of your Democratic colleagues should be traveling to El Salvador to advocate on behalf of Abrego Gracia?&#8…
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KB5252 said:
No, but going after them guns blazing, creating collateral damage and mobilizing more to join their cause is even dumber.
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What proof do you have that they are gaining in numbers from this?

From what I hear, there are reports that cartel leaders in MX are constantly on the move, keeping a low profile and even sleeping in bomb-vests due to fear that the US is going to come in and kill them. That foot soldier numbers in MX are dropping. And that illegal cartel/gang members in the US are self-deporting.

The only people I've personally seen joining their cause have been the Democrats.


(I'm sorry. That was unfair. I don't think the Dems have joined their cause. I think they've been all up on their cause for years.)
 
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Texas Democrat Breaks Ranks on ‘Maryland Man’: ‘Not the Right Person’ to Bring Back to U.S.​


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U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Texas Democrat and a Mexican American, says his party is losing credibility with its advocacy of an illegal immigrant the Trump administration alleges is a violent MS-13 member.

“This is not the right issue to talk about due process,” Cuellar told the Brian Kilmeade Show on Fox News Radio. “This is not the right case. This is not the right person to be saying that we need to bring him back to the United States.”

The Texas lawmaker is speaking of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the 29-year-old illegal immigrant deported in March to a prison in El Salvador.

Cuellar, however, said support for the Salvadoran, which has included visits to his prison by some Democrat lawmakers, is a political loser.

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Texas Democrat Breaks Ranks on 'Maryland Man': 'Not the Right Person' to Bring Back to U.S.

Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Texas Democrat and a Mexican American, says his party is losing credibility with its advocacy of an illegal immigrant the Trump administration alleges is a violent MS-13 member.
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You MAGA bumpkins so desperately want to make this about race and gang issue. Here’s the thing partner: it’s all about the Rule of Law and whether or not the executive branch is going to abide by a court order from the judicial branch that unequivocally stated Mr. Garcia was not to be deported to El Salvador.

That is the issue at hand.

As it stands now, the Orangetard admin is in contempt of court. If Trump and his legion of morons don’t abide by the judicial branch order, then we have a constitutional crisis.

SPOILER: Trump will fold like a napkin. That’s what he does. SEE: Tariffs. And his whole life.

Mr. Garcia shall return to the US.
 
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What proof do you have that they are gaining in numbers from this?

From what I hear, there are reports that cartel leaders in MX are constantly on the move, keeping a low profile and even sleeping in bomb-vests due to fear that the US is going to come in and kill them. That foot soldier numbers in MX are dropping. And that illegal cartel/gang members in the US are self-deporting.

The only people I've personally seen joining their cause have been the Democrats.


(I'm sorry. That was unfair. I don't think the Dems have joined their cause. I think they've been all up on their cause for years.)
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They haven't gone after them like that yet, but designating them terrorist organizations gives you more options for police/military action. It's certainly a possibility, on I hope they largely avoid.

My evidence for military style raids or police action having detrimental effects, even being counterproductive are evidenced through Ruby Ridge and Waco. An entire new generation and breed of white nationalist cropped up.

There are better ways to stifle and control criminal gangs like these. The cartels overseas are a little different.
 
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