The Deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia

I haven't heard it. I'm going by the picture. The letters above the tattoos are translating the characters/tattoos. We've already established Trump is an idiot.

Your insistence that the m s 1 3 are photoshopped to make it look like additional tattoo rather than the translation of the characters of the tattoo is difficult for me to process.
You sound butthurt kb.
 
I think you are reading in a "I know it doesn't say what I'm repeatedly, forcefully, claiming it says, I'm just pretending" into Trump's answer, which is probably the silliest thing of all but very charitable of you
So you are really going to go back to it's not an MS13 tattoo but just something that he thought would look cool....... But just happens to correlate with ms 13 gang related symbolism............ And that he hung around gang affiliated people but somehow none of them saw that tattoo and let him slide with it........... Talk about being charitable.

Also the fact he hasn't been killed by those MS13 members he's housed with currently.......... LOL....... Who's being silly?
 
So you are really going to go back to it's not an MS13 tattoo but just something that he thought would look cool....... But just happens to correlate with ms 13 gang related symbolism............ And that he hung around gang affiliated people but somehow none of them saw that tattoo and let him slide with it........... Talk about being charitable.

Also the fact he hasn't been killed by those MS13 members he's housed with currently.......... LOL....... Who's being silly?
I don't know how the hell you got to the above from this:
Both, but Trump was saying they literally spell MS13 when probably (hopefully) 99.5% of the population is smart enough to realize that's not the case
If you know how to read it then yes he's correct....
And no, what he said was never correct at any point
 
Where are you finding proof that the tattoo means that? An LEO has said it means that. He has not demonstrated that it means that.

The inconvenient thing about America is that the burden of proof is on the accuser and the accused is supposed to get due process. Trump is so stupid he thought it said MS-13, and this is the kind of information he's using to make decisions that skirt due process.

Stop defending terrible government and defend the constitution.
I've never at one time here worked in on the constitutional aspect of this. I'm fact I've said the exact opposite. I don't like the fact there was no due process.


That doesn't change what I think about the tattoo, it's placement etc based on what I know about gang ink. What Trump said about it is irrelevant to me. I think Trump's an idiot, said it multiple times. I'm strictly going by the tattoo, he's either a gang affiliate or he wants people to think he is....... And you can't wear tattoos in the open like that if you're posing..........
 
I've never at one time here worked in on the constitutional aspect of this. I'm fact I've said the exact opposite. I don't like the fact there was no due process.


That doesn't change what I think about the tattoo, it's placement etc based on what I know about gang ink. What Trump said about it is irrelevant to me. I think Trump's an idiot, said it multiple times. I'm strictly going by the tattoo, he's either a gang affiliate or he wants people to think he is....... And you can't wear tattoos in the open like that if you're posing..........

What do you know about gang tattoos and non-gang tattoos that you're specifically applying here?
 
I don't know how the hell you got to the above from this:


And no, what he said was never correct at any point
If he stated the tattoo interpreted reads MS13 he is correct, and I believe that's what he likely meant.


But Trump is an idiot and will never backtrack and give sometime an inch when being pressed.
 
If he stated the tattoo interpreted reads MS13 he is correct, and I believe that's what he likely meant.


But Trump is an idiot and will never backtrack and give sometime an inch when being pressed.

When pressed? Have you watched the video? The journalist is desperately trying to let Trump out of the situation. He's trying to change the topic and Trump is pressing him. What are you talking about? Trump had it completely wrong. That's it. He insulted the guy multiple times while he himself is the fkn idiot with bad information.
 
You actually think you have expertise on this. Dear God.

What do you know about gang tattoos and non-gang tattoos that you're specifically applying here?
I know tattoos. The guy was or wanted people to believe he was gang affiliated.

Whether or not you believe is of no consequence.

we are getting nowhere obviously
 
I know tattoos. The guy was or wanted people to believe he was gang affiliated.

Whether or not you believe is of no consequence.

we are getting nowhere obviously

Bro, what specifically are you applying here? Can you say anything besides "I know tattoos?"

Why do you think that flies around here?

Here's my turn...

I know tattoos, and that's definitely not a gang tattoo.

Now what?
 
When pressed? Have you watched the video? The journalist is desperately trying to let Trump out of the situation. He's trying to change the topic and Trump is pressing him. What are you talking about? Trump had it completely wrong. That's it. He insulted the guy multiple times while he himself is the fkn idiot with bad information.
I haven't watched the video as I've stated multiple times, you keep bringing the video and Trump up. He's an idiot I don't care what he said.

What's of consequences here is the tattoo in question and it's meaning.
 
I haven't watched the video as I've stated multiple times, you keep bringing the video and Trump up. He's an idiot I don't care what he said.

What's of consequences here is the tattoo in question and it's meaning.

But you don't know it's meaning and you are claiming you do.

I believe Einstein said something like, "You don't understand something unless you can explain it to a 7 year old."

You can't even give me, a 43 YO man, a partial explanation as to how you are discerning that it is a gang tattoo.
 
If he stated the tattoo interpreted reads MS13 he is correct, and I believe that's what he likely meant.


But Trump is an idiot and will never backtrack and give sometime an inch when being pressed.
That is not what he stated though, so all of this would have been moot if you watched the video you're talking about
 
@NashVol11

1. Can’t go home because his MS-13s rival gang wants to kill him
2. Wife’s baby daddy claims he’s a gang member
3. He was detained while wearing 2 separate pieces of MS-13 attire
4. He was detained with other MS-13 members.
5. Identified by an informant as a gang member
6. The gang members he was arrested with had marijuana on them and he had a large amount of cash on him

Still not convinced the man is a gang member? Just an insane number of weird coincidences?
That's the same mindset that believes the Clintons really did have 56 "friends" that committed suicide.
 
Bro, what specifically are you applying here? Can you say anything besides "I know tattoos?"

Why do you think that flies around here?

Here's my turn...

I know tattoos, and that's definitely not a gang tattoo.

Now what?
A long time ago I was incarcerated, I've seen them all. It was before MS13 was a thing though.

My best friend growing up runs a prison ministry, he's a former inmate as well. I help him a few times a year as I have time.

I'm not an expert, but I'm versed in gang culture and reading tattoos and graffiti. Graffiti is what got me first interested in it as a kid growing up in South Nashville.

You can believe what you want, but that looks like an associate tattoo to me, he's not a hardened gang banger but he's likely a business associate, the kind of people that are used when street soldiers would bring too much heat.

Could I be wrong? Sure. But IMO dudes either a poser or associated gang member. JMO, also the opinion of a professional well versed and familiar with MS13.

I get passionate when I have convictions, if I crossed any lines I apologize, but I believe what I believe.

As for Trump I don't care, he's wrong a lot, but that has no bearing on this dudes tattoos.
 
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But you don't know it's meaning and you are claiming you do.

I believe Einstein said something like, "You don't understand something unless you can explain it to a 7 year old."

You can't even give me, a 43 YO man, a partial explanation as to how you are discerning that it is a gang tattoo.
But I have.
 
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