Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[dmwvol12]

I just don't really think we are going to see top five finishes in recruiting with JH. The 10-15 range is probably about the best we can hope for.

Question to ponder is do you think we are top 5 in NIL funds? I would think the preponderance of evidence would suggest we are in the top 15 range. Nobody has the actual real data but that seems to be the consensus. Recruiting has changed in this NIL era and I think we need to acknowledge that a teams overall NIL budget is playing a huge role in recruiting today. The real question is does an available coach exist that can recruit top 5 with a top 15 budget that is also a really good coach? That additionally would come to Tennessee. That’s a tall ask and I would submit borderline impossible. Danny White has to factor all that into consideration. Chasing super coach is usually a bad strategy if you’re having the level of success Heupel has achieved. Just my opinion.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Question to ponder is do you think we are top 5 in NIL funds? I would think the preponderance of evidence would suggest we are in the top 15 range. Nobody has the actual real data but that seems to be the consensus. Recruiting has changed in this NIL era and I think we need to acknowledge that a teams overall NIL budget is playing a huge role in recruiting today. The real question is does an available coach exist that can recruit top 5 with a top 15 budget that is also a really good coach? That additionally would come to Tennessee. That’s a tall ask and I would submit borderline impossible. Danny White has to factor all that into consideration. Chasing super coach is usually a bad strategy if you’re having the level of success Heupel has achieved. Just my opinion.

We have our super coach and I never suggested chasing another one. I truly believe that greater achievements are ahead of us with Heupel leading this program.

 

[MemphisVol3]

Idk who needs to hear this, but you can support a team and/or coach, and still acknowledge said coach’s weaknesses. It’s perfectly fine to acknowledge that Heupel is a good football coach, but really struggles recruiting. Both can be true, and are true

I think Heupel is a fairly decent recruiter but his offensive staff as a whole is not.

 

[UTSuave’]

 

[MrVolton]

Question to ponder is do you think we are top 5 in NIL funds? I would think the preponderance of evidence would suggest we are in the top 15 range. Nobody has the actual real data but that seems to be the consensus. Recruiting has changed in this NIL era and I think we need to acknowledge that a teams overall NIL budget is playing a huge role in recruiting today. The real question is does an available coach exist that can recruit top 5 with a top 15 budget that is also a really good coach? That additionally would come to Tennessee. That’s a tall ask and I would submit borderline impossible. Danny White has to factor all that into consideration. Chasing super coach is usually a bad strategy if you’re having the level of success Heupel has achieved. Just my opinion.

First off, I do think Huepel is the dude. I am huge fan and grateful for what he’s done.

Seems like there are about 3 programs out there spending head and shoulders above everyone else. Then we are in that next group. I think with better recruiters as positions coaches with track records of putting guys in the league, we won’t have to pay as much for some of the blue chippers that we are now. I think with some upgrades at some spots on the staff, we could recruit in the 5-10 range on the regular.

 

[dmwvol12]

We have our super coach and I never suggested chasing another one. I truly believe that greater achievements are ahead of us with Heupel leading this program.

Awesome. I really wasn’t trying to call you out at all. It was more in response to the constant negative drumbeat since the portal opened. My bad as I should have made that more clear.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Awesome. I really wasn’t trying to call you out at all. It was more in response to the constant negative drumbeat since the portal opened. My bad as I should have made that more clear.

It's all good buddy.

 

[tnhunter 10]

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Didn't that man win the natty like 4 years ago? Anyone can be fired lol

 

[MemphisVol3]

Yeah Boo went on record saying he didn't know Nico was leaving. Didn't mention it to hardly anyone. Boo seems to be solid.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I think Tony V is really playing chess here lately. He know who his lineup is going to be heading into the post season, but he doesn't want to get worn down in the grind of the SEC.

In fact, he is so far ahead he doesn't want to get on the double byes in the SEC tourney - he wants to play one game and bow out.

Save everyone for the regional, supers and CWS run.

Let's go!

 

[jave36]

Have to credit Shedeur, he whined a lot less about his slide than Kiper did. Seemed to handle it gracefully, for a kid.

 

[you]

Our football team is the Oakland A’s of the NCAA.

Moneyball, not will to spend with the contenders, but if everything goes our way we might pull off a natty

 

[JCVol00]

I think Heupel is a fairly decent recruiter but his offensive staff as a whole is not.

Defense recruiting is fine, offensive has not been good-a lot of missed evals, poor development, missed targets. Heupel hired his friends/coaches from ucf for offense, defense he went out and hired coaches. I think we can see the results of that

 

[UTK]

I think Tony V is really playing chess here lately. He know who his lineup is going to be heading into the post season, but he doesn't want to get worn down in the grind of the SEC.

In fact, he is so far ahead he doesn't want to get on the double byes in the SEC tourney - he wants to play one game and bow out.

Save everyone for the regional, supers and CWS run.

Let's go!

lol funny post.

Well I want to win conference championships too so if he’s intentionally throwing those then that’s some BS. But he’s a competitor. He certainly isn’t haha

 

[MarcoVol]

Would be concerned about losing Elander here. Hopefully they want someone with a ton of experience as a HC.

 

[SKV84]

Didn't that man win the natty like 4 years ago? Anyone can be fired lol

Well....they have only made the postseason 1 time since then and it doesn't look like they're making it is year either. It was definitely time.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Would be concerned about losing Elander here. Hopefully they want someone with a ton of experience as a HC.

I think Elander gets hired away in the near future, but I don’t think it will be Mississippi State.

Watch for Dan Heefner for that job.

 

[pismonque]

I think Elander gets hired away in the near future, but I don’t think it will be Mississippi State.

Watch for Dan Heefner for that job.

Yeah, well I'm gonna hold out and see what Jimmy Baseball has to say about it.

 

[vols 30]

I was relaxing at the Catch one night many years ago and asked the stripper how much she made a year. She said about $80k less the houses cut. I looked at her and said well hell you don't need my $5 dollars I tossed you a few moments ago.

 

[peaygolf]

 

[Rocky Volboa]

Yeah Boo went on record saying he didn't know Nico was leaving. Didn't mention it to hardly anyone. Boo seems to be solid.

Until he's in the portal in December wanting more money again

 

[GiggerVol]

I was relaxing at the Catch one night many years ago and asked the stripper how much she made a year. She said about $80k less the houses cut. I looked at her and said well hell you don't need my $5 dollars I tossed you a few moments ago.

yeah I spent a good bit of time both before and after games back in the day at the Catch lol.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Yeah, well I'm gonna hold out and see what Jimmy Baseball has to say about it.

He’s clueless.

 

[tn4elvis]

yeah I spent a good bit of time both before and after games back in the day at the Catch lol.

The Catch or Mouse’s ear (both locations) were fine gentlemen’s establishments.