The Deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia

This is something I have trouble with. If an American was detained and deported from another country, I would want it to be to the US. I don't want, say, Singapore to send a US citizen to Russia because the American spit on a sidewalk.

I understand the trouble people have with the US deporting Garcia to the country a judge said not to deport him to, but what right would we have to deport him elsewhere? What right would another country have to take him in? I don't get that. If that happened to a US citizen, we'd be pissed.

(I also take isse with the US law that allows us to order deportation, but exclude the deportee's home country. That seems silly to me; if someone is here illegally, we should be able to deport them wherever they are a citizen, and let the home country take care of the security of their own citizens. I do realize that is not the way the law is written.)
Well a few things, he's claimed to the court that his life is in danger if he goes back. Why would I care if Russia detains a US citizen, and that citizen says don't send me back to America, and they say fine Uzbekistan it is? He made his bed. It also basically prevents the guy from being deported. We aren't going to spend any real effort convincing another country to take him. And no country wants more garbage. And yes the guys garbage. To pretend otherwise is nonsense. Note: Not saying you are defending him
 
Well a few things, he's claimed to the court that his life is in danger if he goes back. Why would I care if Russia detains a US citizen, and that citizen says don't send me back to America, and they say fine Uzbekistan it is? He made his bed.
This is true in these specific facts. I just don't know that other countries would limit it to just situations where the US citizen didn't want to go back to the US.

It also basically prevents the guy from being deported.
True. I think the whole purpose behind the US law may be well-intentioned (e.g. "don't send illegal refugees back where they will be persecuted by rogue governments"), but as applied here, it seems too broad. "I don't want to go home because the government is incapable of keeping me safe from harm" - I am not sure the US can ever guarantee someone's safety in another country, so I don't believe that should be our concern.

But hey, our laws are our laws, and a court ordered him not to be sent to E.S.; I am consistent with my other beliefs that a law should be changed if we don't like it; it should not simply be ignored, as it appears it was here.

That said, as seems to be the consensus, the US can't force E.S. to return their citizen, the best they can do is, as the Supreme Court has affirmed, "facilitate" his return. Which is, of course, different than "effectuating" his return, which the S.C. did NOT affirm, and stated the lower court may well have exceeded judicial authority.

We aren't going to spend any real effort convincing another country to take him. And no country wants more garbage. And yes the guys garbage. To pretend otherwise is nonsense. Note: Not saying you are defending him
No we are not. And if I were another country, I wouldn't want him, either. Except for a really nice check. Everyone still loves the Greenback. I'm pretty sure that is why E.S. is keeping him.

Quoting from the Supreme Court decision:

"The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that
his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador. The intended scope of the term “effectuate”
in the District Court’s order is, however, unclear, and may exceed the District Court’s authority. The District Court should clarify its
directive with due regard for the deference owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs."

If I was Trump, I would let E.S. know that we have a plane ready and willing to return to E.S. to pick this particular inmate up and fly him to a new final destination outside the US and E.S. Once E.S. said "no," I would let the court know that, despite our readiness, we are not willing to jeopardize our foreign affairs relationship with E.S. by storming the gates of their prison system and abducting one of their citizens.
 
If your life is in danger and that’s a legitimate concern then seek some due process on the way in. Seek asylum and come here legally. Beyond that I don’t care why you don’t want to go back. I’m all for the minimum threshold “are you here legally?” Nothing additional is needed to deport.
 
"Too lazy to be informed but I don't really care about people's rights, the ends justify the means" thinking is a large part of the problem
I’ve got bigger fish to fry than to worry about the extra details of someone here illegally being deported. Your attempt to move goalposts are irrelevant.

He was here illegally (fact). Nobody disputes that.
He’s gone. That’s good enough for me.

Now if you want to talk about the actual problems of the immigration system I’m your guy. I’ve helped 2 people become citizens and continue to help a number of others with their paperwork so they can stay legal.

In fact I’d be willing to bet that I’m way more informed on their rights than you will ever be.
 
This guy entered the US illegally in 2012, was here for seven years when he was detained in 2019 and then tried to claim asylum, well beyond the one year filing deadline. He was SIX YEARS late filing for assylum. He’s been in front of seventeen judges in his time here, at least twice for domestic violence and the rest wrt his “status”. All this is legal trick f***ery for a guy that didn’t even try to adhere to our immigration laws and should have been deported a long time ago as a result. He probably broke code with the Barrio 18 gang and that’s why he fled and they want his @$$.
 

Texas Democrat Breaks Ranks on ‘Maryland Man’: ‘Not the Right Person’ to Bring Back to U.S.​


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U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Texas Democrat and a Mexican American, says his party is losing credibility with its advocacy of an illegal immigrant the Trump administration alleges is a violent MS-13 member.

“This is not the right issue to talk about due process,” Cuellar told the Brian Kilmeade Show on Fox News Radio. “This is not the right case. This is not the right person to be saying that we need to bring him back to the United States.”

The Texas lawmaker is speaking of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the 29-year-old illegal immigrant deported in March to a prison in El Salvador.

Cuellar, however, said support for the Salvadoran, which has included visits to his prison by some Democrat lawmakers, is a political loser.

 

Texas Democrat Breaks Ranks on ‘Maryland Man’: ‘Not the Right Person’ to Bring Back to U.S.​


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U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Texas Democrat and a Mexican American, says his party is losing credibility with its advocacy of an illegal immigrant the Trump administration alleges is a violent MS-13 member.

“This is not the right issue to talk about due process,” Cuellar told the Brian Kilmeade Show on Fox News Radio. “This is not the right case. This is not the right person to be saying that we need to bring him back to the United States.”

The Texas lawmaker is speaking of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the 29-year-old illegal immigrant deported in March to a prison in El Salvador.

Cuellar, however, said support for the Salvadoran, which has included visits to his prison by some Democrat lawmakers, is a political loser.

Hopefully the Dems don't make him the leader of the party....they might still have a chance.
 

Texas Democrat Breaks Ranks on ‘Maryland Man’: ‘Not the Right Person’ to Bring Back to U.S.​


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U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Texas Democrat and a Mexican American, says his party is losing credibility with its advocacy of an illegal immigrant the Trump administration alleges is a violent MS-13 member.

“This is not the right issue to talk about due process,” Cuellar told the Brian Kilmeade Show on Fox News Radio. “This is not the right case. This is not the right person to be saying that we need to bring him back to the United States.”

The Texas lawmaker is speaking of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the 29-year-old illegal immigrant deported in March to a prison in El Salvador.

Cuellar, however, said support for the Salvadoran, which has included visits to his prison by some Democrat lawmakers, is a political loser.

They're about to kick him out of the club😆
 

EXCLUSIVE: Democrats Enjoyed Luxury Resort’s Comforts While Protesting Deportation Of Alleged MS-13 Gangbanger​


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Four House Democrats who raced to El Salvador to stand up for a deported illegal migrant with alleged criminal ties stayed in a luxury hotel with panoramic views of the country’s greenery, the Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.

Democratic Reps. Maxwell Frost of Florida, Robert Garcia of California, Maxine Dexter of Oregon and Yassamin Ansari of Arizona traveled to the capital city of San Salvador to advocate for the release of reputed MS-13 gangbanger Kilmar Abrego Garcia on April 21. They stayed at the Hilton San Salvador, a luxury property situated against a picturesque backdrop of the capital city’s volcano, a source familiar with the members’ accommodations told the DCNF. (RELATED: Cuellar Says Democrats Made Wrong Choice In Case Of Deported MS-13 Suspect)

The San Salvador hotel boasts rooms with scenic views of the capital city’s landscape and an outdoor terrace where guests can enjoy margaritas and dine on local culinary treats, including made-to-order pupusas. The hotel is described as providing a “tranquil retreat” for “those seeking comfort and convenience,” according to Hotels.com. Google rates the property as a five-star hotel.

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And the guy who vandalized 6 Tesla and works for the gov won’t get jail but will get diversion training.

Left just loves criminals.
The left loves criminals, whether they be pedos or illegal aliens
 
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The govt said so and we should trust them to identify terrorists for us. I mean, we pay them enough for the privilege
I'm sorry. Have you been flying to Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, etc. on a regular basis over the last 20+ years to personally identify terriorists before they've been captured or killed, or have you been relying on the government to do that for you?
 
I'm sorry. Have you been flying to Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, etc. on a regular basis over the last 20+ years to personally identify terriorists before they've been captured or killed, or have you been relying on the government to do that for you?
I didn't trust the govt to do it there either. I believe most of those actions were lies as well. The liberal use of the word "terrorist" has enabled our govt to expand their overreach beyond what is acceptable
 
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I didn't trust the govt to do it there either. I believe most of those actions were lies as well. The liberal use of the word "terrorist" has enabled our govt to expand their overreach beyond what is acceptable
I will agree in part because of the terrible Patriot Act. That was an abomination, and it was even renewed. Shame on congress.
 

EXCLUSIVE: Democrats Enjoyed Luxury Resort’s Comforts While Protesting Deportation Of Alleged MS-13 Gangbanger​


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Four House Democrats who raced to El Salvador to stand up for a deported illegal migrant with alleged criminal ties stayed in a luxury hotel with panoramic views of the country’s greenery, the Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.

Democratic Reps. Maxwell Frost of Florida, Robert Garcia of California, Maxine Dexter of Oregon and Yassamin Ansari of Arizona traveled to the capital city of San Salvador to advocate for the release of reputed MS-13 gangbanger Kilmar Abrego Garcia on April 21. They stayed at the Hilton San Salvador, a luxury property situated against a picturesque backdrop of the capital city’s volcano, a source familiar with the members’ accommodations told the DCNF. (RELATED: Cuellar Says Democrats Made Wrong Choice In Case Of Deported MS-13 Suspect)

The San Salvador hotel boasts rooms with scenic views of the capital city’s landscape and an outdoor terrace where guests can enjoy margaritas and dine on local culinary treats, including made-to-order pupusas. The hotel is described as providing a “tranquil retreat” for “those seeking comfort and convenience,” according to Hotels.com. Google rates the property as a five-star hotel.

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Lol, you're upset that they stayed in a $135/night hotel?
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Wait till you find out what Trump charges the Secret Service.
 
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Is he upset? Where do you see that he is upset? It looks like he just posted the link, like he does on all of his posts
 
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