The Deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia


Those are facts. SC ruled 9-0 that it was illegal to ship him to El Salvador.

This has been addressed multiple times, they are using the language the U.S. government used in its lower court filings which they have clarified i.e. he is the right person at the right place. The facts they were using no longer are relevant as those are not the true facts in the case.

I see nothing wrong with the majority opinion, the 3 stooges is a different story. He's not coming back and yes he was provided all the process he was due. He was removed via AEA, see Title 50 Chapter 3... there is limited process before removal.



At this point, in either the national injunction case or the individual case... the lower court is without jurisdiction as to AEA, hence the Supreme Court has no ability to judicial review the removal under AEA.

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These are the exact words of our highest court:

"The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal."

You may disagree with them. Stephen Miller may disagree. Breitbart may disagree but that's irrelevant. The fact is our highest court says that he was illegally deported. If you don't see that then you're denying facts
 
These are the exact words of our highest court:



You may disagree with them. Stephen Miller may disagree. Breitbart may disagree but that's irrelevant. The fact is our highest court says that he was illegally deported. If you don't see that then you're denying facts

No, the Supreme Court is not saying that... the U.S. government said it and the Supreme court used it, but since that time the U.S. has clarified the facts. The facts have not been adjudicated.

The Supreme Court has no ability to judicial review the law or the facts as it pertains to the removal under AEA because there is no case in which the courts have jurisdiction.

The courts have no or limited ability to do much as to the two cases (national injunction/garcia) as they are without jurisdiction and/or authority as to AEA... including the Supreme Court. (at least at this stage) What is being implied simply isn't going to work either i.e. returning him.

I would say anyone involved in transporting him back to the U.S. is violating quite a few federal laws.
 
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They basically said, pretty please get him back if you can.
That’s more or less it.

Reminds me of the Hatfield and McCoy ruling.
“You can’t go over state lines and get them so you have to let them go. But if you know where they are now you can legally arrest them “

So let them out of the cell and arrest them again.
That’s what SCOTUS is famous for
 
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Which is exactly where they sent him, hence it was illegal. No court ever changed this 2019 decision

The AEA does not recognize any other existing action other than if the person is under the criminal jurisdiction of a court, and even the process there would be limited. The executive branch doesn't need to obtain the courts permission other than that.
 
The AEA does not recognize any other existing action other than if the person is under the criminal jurisdiction of a court, and even the process there would be limited. The executive branch doesn't need to obtain the courts permission other than that.
The bolded is incorrect. If it was correct the SC would not be saying that the administration is obligated to facilitate his return
 
The bolded is incorrect. If it was correct the SC would not be saying that the administration is obligated to facilitate his return
The Supreme Court lacks jurisdiction currently as to the removal under AEA, see Trump v JGG. They can ask the administration anything they want i.e. pretty please but that has nothing to do with the removal under AEA.

He has been successful removed via AEA, any person trying to bring him into the country at this point can be criminally prosecuted.

The AEA does not require court action before removal, the only case is if the person is already in criminal jurisdiction of a court. The Supreme Court does not address any of that because they would lack jurisdiction.

The bolded is incorrect.

Than you can simply show us in the Law where it is incorrect. The Supreme Court is not saying what you claim they are saying, that is your problem.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title50/chapter3&edition=prelim
 
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The Supreme Court lacks jurisdiction currently as to the removal under AEA, see Trump v JGG. They can ask the administration anything they want i.e. pretty please but that has nothing to do with the removal under AEA.

He has been successful removed via AEA, any person trying to bring him into the country at this point can be criminally prosecuted.
The SC does not lack jurisdiction on AEA. They can find Trump and others in contempt. We'll see if they do. They've already said that Trump can't deport any more people under AEA until they say so. That doesn't sound like they lack jurisdiction
 
The SC does not lack jurisdiction on AEA. They can find Trump and others in contempt. We'll see if they do. They've already said that Trump can't deport any more people under AEA until they say so. That doesn't sound like they lack jurisdiction

They do at this stage in the two actions, they simply lack jurisdiction as its hasn't been properly invoked as far as AEA.

They've already said that Trump can't deport any more people under AEA until they say so.

That is not true, they issued an order on some people in Texas but there is no national injunction that I am aware of, the national injunction was vacated as the court lack jurisdiction, see Trump v JGG. This has been told to you quite a few times now.

At this point you are either a moron or trolling.

The detainees are confined in Texas, so venue is improper in the District of Columbia. As a result, the Government is likely to succeed on the merits of this action
The application to vacate the orders of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia presented to THE CHIEF JUSTICE and by him referred to the Court is granted. The March 15, 2025 minute orders granting a temporary restraining order and March 28, 2025 extension of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, case No. 1:25-cv-766, are vacated.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a931_2c83.pdf

(I can't specifically address the limited injunction as to Friday, but it looked like it was limited to the people there in a specific place... I haven't read it in depth)
 
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They do at this stage in the two actions, they simply lack jurisdiction as its hasn't been properly invoked.



That is not true, they issued an order on some people in Texas but there is no national injunction that I am aware of, the national injunction was vacated as the court lack jurisdiction, see Trump v JGG. This has been told to you quite a few times now.

At this point you are either a moron or trolling.



https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a931_2c83.pdf

(I can't specifically address the limited injunction as to Friday, but it looked like it was limited to the people there in a specific place... I haven't read it in depth)
There is a national declaration regarding Venezuelans:

the U.S. Supreme Court entered an order temporarily blocking the federal government from deporting certain illegal aliens under the Alien Enemies Act.


The Government is directed not to remove any member of the putative class of detainees from the United States until further order of this Court

So please explain to me how the SC can do this if they have no jurisdiction where AEA is concerned?
 
I'm using exact language that courts have used in ruling on this case in the past week or so. Where is your documentation to back up what you're saying? Just because you say it doesn't make it true. Yesterday you posted the dissenting argument written by Alito and Thomas. That means that their opinion did not prevail. I'm posting the words that did prevail

You might be right that he's not coming back but that doesn't make it legal. Since it's not legal, it'll cause problems for this administration, including possible criminal charges
Anwar Awlaki Raised his hand.
 
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There is a national declaration regarding Venezuelans:

So please explain to me how the SC can do this if they have no jurisdiction where AEA is concerned?
No, it deals with a particular class i.e. Venezuelans in Northern Texas, this is not national injunction. I would say on the surface, its probably improper but I haven't read the lower case enough to see in detail.

Your question appears to be the same as Alito.

It is not clear that the Court had jurisdiction. The
All Writs Act does not provide an independent grant
of jurisdiction. See 28 U. S. C. §1651(a) (permitting
writs “necessary or appropriate in aid of ” a court’s
jurisdiction); Clinton v. Goldsmith, 526 U. S. 529,
534–535 (1999) (“the express terms” of the All Writs
Act “confine the power of [a court] to issuing process
‘in aid of ’ its existing statutory jurisdiction; the Act
does not enlarge that jurisdiction” (quoting
§1651(a)). Therefore, this Court had jurisdiction
only if the Court of Appeals had jurisdiction of the
applicants’ appeal, see §1254 (granting this Court
jurisdiction to review “[c]ases in the courts of ap-
peals”), and the Court of Appeals had jurisdiction
only if the supposed order that the applicants ap-
pealed amounted to the denial of a preliminary in-
junction. See §1292(a)(1).
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a1007_22p3.pdf

Basically, the first two Supreme Court orders were okayish imo, now we're getting into FantasyLand.... they're trying to slow everything down even though they have no jurisdiction or authority. If the habeas is on an individual the lower court would most likely have jurisdiction as to judicially reviewing.

These particular issues are not a part of the other suits as a correct habeas was not filed.

Although the Court provided class-wide relief, the 5Cite as: 604 U. S. ____ (2025)
ALITO , J., dissenting District Court never certified a class, and this Court
has never held that class relief may be sought in a habeas proceeding.

I would say we are well on our way to ignoring them in the future, as they are using it as a political tool. We'll see how it plays out. The Supreme Court is trying to use a class to stop removals but there is no history of that being used for habeas and for good reason.

None of those guys are coming back.

So please explain to me how the SC can do this if they have no jurisdiction where AEA is concerned?

I never said that, I said pre-removal the only thing that might be available is habeas.... the Gracia case does not involve a habeas, the national injunction case was originally a habeas but purposely filed in the wrong venue. The case we are talking about, a habeas was filed in northern texas, there are other problems here as well though i.e. class.... basically they are trying to delay.

Basically, there is limited paths to remedy prior to removal, habeas is one... if you know of another path... I am all ears. In your Gracia case, the court has jurisdiction of the initial proceedings but most likely lost personal jurisdiction of the subject because he has been removed. His legal status has already been determined via immigration process, that isn't going to change.
 
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These are the exact words of our highest court:



You may disagree with them. Stephen Miller may disagree. Breitbart may disagree but that's irrelevant. The fact is our highest court says that he was illegally deported. If you don't see that then you're denying facts


President Chaos administration treating this like Dukes of Hazzard.

If they get him out of the country (i.e., over the bridge to the next county) then Boss Hogg (in this case, the courts) can't do anything about it and the administration can stick their collective tongue out and go "nanny nanny boo boo, whatcha gonna do about it?"
 
I honestly can’t believe the amount of attention the left has placed on this

Personally, I hope this scares other illegals into leaving.

Stay here and you might just pass Go and be sent directly to a foreign prison.
We had political prisoners in solitary confinement in D.C. with no "Due Process" (Their new buzz phrase). People who really didn't do anything. None of these dems give a f about those who have been killed, raped, assaulted, robbed, etc from these illegals. They voted against the Laken Riley Act. Yet this is their idol now. They do this every few years. Remember George Floyd? You'll be hard pressed to find a bigger pos, yet they gave him several major funerals, gold casket, and canonized him. These people are evil - don't forget that.
 
President Chaos administration treating this like Dukes of Hazzard.

If they get him out of the country (i.e., over the bridge to the next county) then Boss Hogg (in this case, the courts) can't do anything about it and the administration can stick their collective tongue out and go "nanny nanny boo boo, whatcha gonna do about it?"
Good. Illegals need to go back. It's amazing how you guys pick illegals over Americans. I think you guys will be fine seeing Americans killed by illegals as long as it helped your party
 
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We had political prisoners in solitary confinement in D.C. with no "Due Process" (Their new buzz phrase). People who really didn't do anything. None of these dems give a f about those who have been killed, raped, assaulted, robbed, etc from these illegals. They voted against the Laken Riley Act. Yet this is their idol now. They do this every few years. Remember George Floyd? You'll be hard pressed to find a bigger pos, yet they gave him several major funerals, gold casket, and canonized him. These people are evil - don't forget that.
Yep,. They support illegals over americans.
 
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"Jorge had been transferred from the South Texas ICE Processing Center in Pearsall, Texas, after entering the United States illegally."

Tiger King doing his part.
 
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