Recruiting Football Talk VIII

the Arky/Madden news makes me feel more confident that Nico's camp tried to play hardball on a bigger number and front-loaded guarantee from Tennessee in December, with the UCLA plan being the play for them the entire time

Madden flipped from UCLA to Arky at the last second, presumably for a bigger bag. it wouldn't surprise me if it was front loaded or came with a guarantee and they bolted as soon as the check hit

probably would have done the same to us

I'll be curious to see if Arkansas has a case to claw back money or waste the Iamaleavas' time/money in court
 
Is this really Butch Jones? Because who you ranking down? Dobbs? Bray? Hendon? Milton? Pavia is very over rated. He is good for Vandy and it stops there.

I'd put him 3rd behind Dobbs. Maybe 4th behind Bray. Said 2nd or 3rd because there's no way he's jumping Hendon. Being better than Bray and Dobbs isn't a very high bar. All hypothetical but he's pretty good. Not a small achievement to make Vanderbilt relevant again.
 
I'd put him 3rd behind Dobbs. Maybe 4th behind Bray. Said 2nd or 3rd because there's no way he's jumping Hendon. Being better than Bray and Dobbs isn't a very high bar. All hypothetical but he's pretty good. Not a small achievement to make Vanderbilt relevant again.
Did you say that Dobbs wasn't a very high bar? WTH Butch!!!
 
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I'd put him 3rd behind Dobbs. Maybe 4th behind Bray. Said 2nd or 3rd because there's no way he's jumping Hendon. Being better than Bray and Dobbs isn't a very high bar. All hypothetical but he's pretty good. Not a small achievement to make Vanderbilt relevant again.
Being better than Dobbs isn't a very high bar?!?!?! :eek: Put down the crack pipe. It is killing your brain cells.
 
The Verr and Shoot has never produced an above average NFL player. The closest was RG3
We're talking how many major programs? 3 or 4?

And how many of them had elite talent? 0-1?

And over what? 10 years?

Crazy small sample size.

We're mostly talking OG Baylor and now Ole Miss and UT...

We spent from 1960-2020 playing "pro style" and we produced some luckbox of a kid with zero genetics in Peyton Manning at the NFL level...

What has Bama done in 100 years outside of Namath?

NFL qb success is pretty dang random, otherwise everyone should be slobbering all over Tx Tech and Wyoming QBs right now 🤣🤣🤣
 
Imo, the system works so well at the college level that it often makes the players look better than they actually are and NFL teams draft them higher than they should go. There's this perception that players that come out of the system aren't any good in the NFL but it might just be that the players were never NFL caliber but the Veer and Shoot made them look really good.
Very good point.
 
Imo, the system works so well at the college level that it often makes the players look better than they actually are and NFL teams draft them higher than they should go. There's this perception that players that come out of the system aren't any good in the NFL but it might just be that the players were never NFL caliber but the Veer and Shoot made them look really good.
Similar to Petrino players, they'll never look as good in the NFL as they do in college. Not a knock on the players, it's a kudos to how well the coach can scheme.
 
Someone earlier mentioned one guy from this system family who has played well in the NFL. Not many people have heard of him, maybe. Click link to watch.

 
maybe an insane QB is what we need to get over the hump when it comes to road woes

also, with how much our defense has improved over the past few years, I'm fine with a QB that takes chances.

either way, the variance is going to be huge
I bet you $20 he finds a way to sling a pass on the last play of the game instead of running out of bounds.
 
Love it. Every backup should walk out. Madden hasn’t played football since his junior year in high school. Put him in if they need a substitute.
I see down the road for UCLA with both brothers transferring in and having two quarterbacks leaving, at some point because of depth, they’re held hostage for more money.
 

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